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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My perception is that Gentoo has a logo already, and that is the machined-metal "g". You will find it many places if you browse around gentoo.org.

The cow, and the little story, occurs in the "about" page only? And I, having grown up with Swedish, probably don't get the pun or whatever--is there a joke in calling a cow Larry?

So, my feeling is, drop the cow and drop the UFO; one logo is enough. Less is more.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't you have cows/bulls in swedish?
cows are female and bulls male
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't Larry supposed to be the name of a MALE. Cow is a female.

"Larry the cow" seems a bit peculiar to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we have the right idea here, tipped cows maybe a good call, even a dead one. Kinda like the good ol' CDC logo.
(Cult of the dead Cow for you noobs)

Maybe one with a Metal "G" stuck up it's arse.

Any way we can get this thred reviewed by the Gentoo guys?

Larry the transvestite cow = bad idea.
Dead Larry the bull = +1 on the scale.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiwaris wrote:
Isn't Larry supposed to be the name of a MALE. Cow is a female.

There is a bug about that in the bug tracker.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe my mind is just corrupted or something, but that metal 'g' always looks like a cartoon penis to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's try another viewpoint. Assume that the logo is the tiny icon that appears at the left end of the URL field when you browse to the home page of the product/company/organization/whatever. After browsing around a little I found
Code:

redhat.com     hat
suse.com       letter "N"
dell.com       tilted "E"
gnu.org        gnu
mozilla.org    dinosaur
mysql.org      dolphin
debian.org     spiral
netbsd.org     flag
mandriva.com   star
tux.org        tux
tucows.com     cow
gentoo.org     styled "g"

As you can see, the cow logo is already taken. And so is the penguin...

Then I would have expected to find the car company logos on respective homepages. Not so! I checked Mercedes, Toyota, Volvo, Volkswagen - no logo!

Even in the software domain many players have missed the opportunity. There is no logo for apache.org, java.sun.com, apple.com, microsoft.com, netscape.com.

And what about the publishing domain? Penguin.com - no logo!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it is supposed to be "Larry the Bull".....

here, "Bull" word isnt familiar..... and we used "COW" instead for both male and female.... (male Cow, female Cow :P)

so if we used "Larry the Cow", its means Larry is Gay.... :P (*I hate Gays....)

sorry, if I said something wrong....
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of aruging why the mascot doesn't work, why doesn't suggest a mascot that better represents what Gentoo stands for?

I say we keep the existing "G" logo and throw a big ricer-fin-spoiler on the top, and a racing stripe!

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KDE - Dragon
OSX - Jaguar/Tiger
BSD - Daemon
SUSE - Lizard
GNU - GNU/Wildebeest

Personally, if we want to stick with something cute (along the lines of a cow and/or penguin) I'd suggest a ferret. Ferrets are amazing cute, and pretty damned cool.

If you want something that would command more respect, I nominate a lion mascot.

Thoughts, suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the cow is slick, but I honestly also never understood it. One thing I do like about it is that it's different, fun and honestly feels more outgoing than the usual stiff corp logos.

Just my 2cents.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given Linux and Gentoo's modular design, I suggest our mascot be something that can be assembled. Perhaps a 'cute', sexless robot/droid, or something. We could call it "Gen #2" or "Gen 2" (as in it's the 2nd generation model).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if we could get R Stevens to draw up a robot logo suggestion?

http://www.dieselsweeties.com/

I love his pixel-art. Even better, a decent pixel image could be represented well even in ASCII.

Then again, I always said, if you ASCII a stupid question, you get a stupid ANSI.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is everyone bashing poor Larry? He's not even found in too many places.
Gentoo has another mascot, Knurt the flying saucer, who's on the gentoo's homepage, and is the "hourglass" in the gentoo mouse cursor theme!

BTW, does anyone know if those penguins on the homepage have a name?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I'm not the only one who looks at larry and thinks 'this distro rocks, too bad the mascot sucks'.

Perhaps a contest for alternative logo concepts is needed?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enderandrew wrote:


Then again, I always said, if you ASCII a stupid question, you get a stupid ANSI.


I am sitting here reading this thread and I came across this ^^^^ I almost spat my lunch on my keyboard. I LOL'd SO hard! Then I had to ask WHY?!?!


I agree, the cow is kind of strange, but its not bad... its not good either but its not bad :P
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im glad I could provide a few lunch hour laughs, hope your keyboard does'nt have sliced turky stuck in it.

And for enderandrew

I did provide an alternative, a huge as turbo jet acme style rocket strapped to the ass of a gentoo penguine.

It total sticks with what Gentoo has achived. Super fast Linux.

Makes sence to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the devs are constantly fighting the "Ricer" image, so I doubt they'll support a jet-powered penguin logo, even if it is appropriate.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a penguin eating rice from a bowl? :D
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that pengiun strapped to a rocket idea is horrible.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enderandrew wrote:
Instead of aruging why the mascot doesn't work, why doesn't suggest a mascot that better represents what Gentoo stands for?

Personally, if we want to stick with something cute (along the lines of a cow and/or penguin) I'd suggest a ferret. Ferrets are amazing cute, and pretty damned cool.

If you want something that would command more respect, I nominate a lion mascot.

Thoughts, suggestions?


What do people think of these suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a rough mock up.



acmegentoo.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi enderandrew,

I am happy with the styled "g" logo. It stands out well on merchandise; check here: http://www.cafepress.com/officialgentoo/.

As for the cow story on the "about" page (http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml): I just don't see the connection between Linux distributions and a cow named Larry, so drop it, or if it is for some reason worth keeping: move it to some "Gentoo museum" page where it can be put in a context so that it makes sense to newcomers?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooooooooo.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J3N7iL wrote:
I think we have the right idea here, tipped cows maybe a good call, even a dead one. Kinda like the good ol' CDC logo.
(Cult of the dead Cow for you noobs)

Maybe one with a Metal "G" stuck up it's arse.

Any way we can get this thred reviewed by the Gentoo guys?

Larry the transvestite cow = bad idea.
Dead Larry the bull = +1 on the scale.


Larry isn't a transvestite, he's a transexual. Big difference my friend.
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