New freetype 2.1.4

S_aIN_t · Guru Joined: 11 May 2002 Posts: 488 Location: Ottawa

i have the new freetype build with the aouto hinter on. the fonts do look a little blury o me. maybe my vision is not completely gone just yet.

when i get home i think i am going to rebuild freetype and try it without auto-hinting on. it should be back to good old clear fonts.

at the same time, i am using a sony 200gs monitor. it is a crt for those who haven't seen it before.

actually i will post a screenshot of both versions when i get home.

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no usernames left · n00b Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 72

I installed freetype 2.1.4 ~30 minutes ago, reemerged fontconfig and xft and now my fonts look sextastic. I installed Mozilla yesterday and the fonts were bold and ugly, but with freetype 2.1.4 they look just as good as in WinXP with ClearType enabled.
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Yinchie · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject:

Are my fonts ok?

[img:40bfa95255]http://www.relaxz.net/archives/temp.png[/img:40bfa95255]

I find them good looking

H-Pi · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject:

I had those great fonts after upgrading freetype and after it xfree
since x started too slow I upgraded fontconfig, xft and freetype, x started in 5 seconds instead of 1 minute, but now my beuatiful fonts are gone :cry:

I'm sure I got the newest freetype and stuff (from the ~x86 tree)
do I have to rebuild xfree? (that would bring me back to the slow x start problem)

Yinchie · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 4:39 pm Post subject:

try fc-cache

or remerge fontconfig again.

foser · Retired Dev Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 154

No, just rebuilding freetype is enough.

As far as the BI vs. the AH war goes, they are both good quality only it's a matter of personal preference what you like. There has been some discussion after the change to put the BI back on, i think mostly because people have adapted to its way of rendering and anything not like that seems a little off. So for now the AH is behind a use flag again, defaulting to the BI.
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Konsti · l33t Joined: 10 Dec 2002 Posts: 691

I emerged the new freetype yesterday ans saw the changes (due to not restarting X) today. What sould I say? Fonts in websites in galeon (mozilla-1.3) are absolutely perfect!!! For example, all other fonts in gtk2 apps are finally ok too!
Congratulations!!!

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tactless · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 8:17 pm Post subject:

AH looks redhatish, and BCI looks more like Windows. BCI with AA has become the Gentoo style for fonts (you can see it in most screenshots). What bugs me is that it takes more than changing three lines in a text file to choose BCI/AH for your user.
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Yinchie · Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:24 pm Post subject:

I havent changed any config files to get those fonts

Only thing I did was emerging the stuff.

H-Pi · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 12:08 pm Post subject:

Elm0 · Apprentice Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 281 Location: UK

Going against many of the opinions in this post, I actually prefer the more redhat-style 'full' looking fonts created by having the auto-hinter off.

Gnufsh · Guru Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 400 Location: Portland, OR

I can only say that on my computer, when the BCI is turned on, most fonts are horridly ugly, with mismatched sizes and weights. It is hard to look at. What use flag is the AH behind now?

no usernames left · n00b Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 72

To enable the AH use USE="prebuilt" emerge freetype.
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tactless · Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject:

The Luxi fonts look horrible with BCI. My recommendation: Compile with BCI (should also compile AH), and disable it for specific (or all) fonts in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
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Gnufsh · Guru Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 400 Location: Portland, OR

Strange... I've taken a closer look, and it looks like my font problems with the BCI turned on are localized to GTK2 apps. I have gtk2 in my use, and I've notiiced terrible fonts with BCI enabled in phoenix-cvs, gdm, and mozilla. How odd... Why is this?

silverter · Guru Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 491 Location: Ulm, DE

silverter · Guru Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 491 Location: Ulm, DE

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Gnufsh · Guru Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 400 Location: Portland, OR

How do I disable the BCI for specific fonts in fonts.conf?

Gnufsh · Guru Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 400 Location: Portland, OR

I guess I figured it out. I put this:

tactless · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:14 am Post subject:

Here's my user-specific way of doing it:
Compile with BCI, leave it on in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf (except for those Luxi fonts, which look really nasty with BCI), and for users who want to use autohinting instead, create ~/.fonts.conf:

hanzotutu · Apprentice Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 170

Wait a sec. There are "autohint", and "hinting". Which one controls which one? "hinting" is for BCI, "autohint" for autohinter? Is there any option to control AA?

d3c3it · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:58 pm Post subject:

Yinchie · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2003 11:08 am Post subject:

Gnufsh · Guru Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 400 Location: Portland, OR

"hinting" controls general behavior. It will by default use the BCI if hinting is enabled. If you prefer the autohinter, enable autohint. If hinting if off, neither the BCI or the AH will be used. At least, that's the way it seems to me.