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ibnpaul
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: system not detecting my USB IDE HDD Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have a IDE HDD that I rescued from an almost dead iBook which I installed in a USB case. I am now trying to recover the data from it. I have support for HFS and HFS+ compiled into the kernel and have ivman, hal, and dbus installed and enabled in the default runlevel, with hal and dbus in my make.conf. I also installed the ivman-user script from the ivman HOWTO in the Gentoo wiki and enabled it in the default runlevel and implemented the bit about making hal recognize usb drives as mountable in that same HOWTO. When I tested the drive in M$ it was detected and "installed", but because I assume it is HFS did not mount properly. Lsusb turns up nothing, same with dmesg, and there is no folder under /media. I have tried everything my limited knowledge can come up with, and now need some assistance. Can anyone help? Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't even respond to lsusb!?!?!?

That is strange. What is the model of the case?

Do you have another drive to test?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The case is a no-name chinese type case.

I don't have another HDD to test, but as I said windoze detected and registered it so I don't think that the case is the problem...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is 'doze on the same computer?

It could be your computer's usb hub (internal) that is at fault, but probably not.

You checked 'lsusb -v' for a relevant entry? Post the whole contents here, please.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the 'doze is my wife's comp. Here is my lsusb -v:

Code:

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Device Descriptor:
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  idProduct          0x0000
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      Self Powered
      Remote Wakeup
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    Interface Descriptor:
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      Self Powered
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  bDeviceClass            9 Hub
  bDeviceSubClass         0 Unused
  bDeviceProtocol         0 Full speed (or root) hub
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x0000
  idProduct          0x0000
  bcdDevice            2.06
  iManufacturer           3 Linux 2.6.18-gentoo-r6 uhci_hcd
  iProduct                2 UHCI Host Controller
  iSerial                 1 0000:00:1d.2
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           25
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0
    bmAttributes         0xe0
      Self Powered
      Remote Wakeup
    MaxPower                0mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         9 Hub
      bInterfaceSubClass      0 Unused
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 Full speed (or root) hub
      iInterface              0
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0002  1x 2 bytes
        bInterval             255
Hub Descriptor:
  bLength               9
  bDescriptorType      41
  nNbrPorts             2
  wHubCharacteristic 0x000a
    No power switching (usb 1.0)
    Per-port overcurrent protection
  bPwrOn2PwrGood        1 * 2 milli seconds
  bHubContrCurrent      0 milli Ampere
  DeviceRemovable    0x00
  PortPwrCtrlMask    0x80
 Hub Port Status:
   Port 1: 0000.0100 power
   Port 2: 0000.0303 lowspeed power enable connect


I do have a PCI USB2.0 card installed w/a VIA chipset (not being used for the HDD), I don't know why this would matter, but you never know... Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try plugging your mouse into the same port that the drive was in when you did the 'lsusb -v'.

Try swapping all of the ports around, maybe you'll find that a few of your ports are dead.

hih,
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be too simple, huh...
I'm trying that
will post results

Ah-hah! Now I'm getting a new ID in lsusb:

Code:

Bus 008 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 067b:2506 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 


Thank you! That was very simple. Oddly enough the mouse works in the port that the HDD was in previously. /media is still empty, though.

This is what dmesg reports:

Code:

usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 uba: unknown partition table
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ibnpaul wrote:
That would be too simple, huh...
I'm trying that
will post results

Ah-hah! Now I'm getting a new ID in lsusb:

Code:

Bus 008 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 067b:2506 Prolific Technology, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 045e:0039 Microsoft Corp. IntelliMouse Optical
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 


Thank you! That was very simple. Oddly enough the mouse works in the port that the HDD was in previously. /media is still empty, though.

This is what dmesg reports:

Code:

usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 uba: unknown partition table


Gee, I wonder why the iBook died... :)

You plugged the hard drive into one of the front ports, didn't you?
The drive case is bus powered (at least somewhat). The mouse will work on almost no power. It used to be that you would get terminal a/o log entries telling you to power your device better, maybe it's in the kernel somewhere (the option, not the log :) )

As for the drive, your best bet is to find a whole drive hex-editor and learn hfs. You may be able to (if you are lucky) rebuild the partition table (groan) and if you are even luckier, you may be able to get some of your files back :D

Or repartition the whole thing, use it to store backups or video or something.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, I take an issue with your sarcasm. Not everyone has the time to learn things overnight. I am not stupid and I am learning, I just haven't gotten to everything yet. You should be more understanding, I'm sure you were in my shoes at one point.

Secondly, to answer your assumption, the drive was not plugged into the front USB port, it was plugged into one of the ones in the back connected to the motherboard.

Am I to assume from that that I need to get a powered case b/c none of my usb ports will sufficiently power the drive?

Can anyone suggest a whole drive hex editor that I could get and possibly point me in the direction of some documentation to read concerning this?
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