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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fbcyborg wrote:
No! allora scusate, non mi sono spiegato bene forse...

:roll:
fbcyborg wrote:
non sembra funzionare...

Però devi spiegare perché non sembra.
Hai visto dei processi vivi sul portatile?

Oppure hai semplicemente notato che la ventola gira di più?
Se hai notato bene, la procedura di maurs monta magicamente in ram la /var/tmp/portage.
Quindi, per emerge, la compilazione avviene sul computer principale.

Quando compili il kernel, invece, effettui una serie di accessi in input-ouput ripetuti ad nfs, determinando un maggior carico di lavoro per il client, che ritiene opportuno usare la ventola. Ma di certo, la sua cpu non compila.

E poi. Cosa era quall'accenno ad ssh?
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vabbè.. lasciamo da parte ssh.. è meglio...

A questo punto mi viene spontaneo chiedere quale sia un metodo per verificare che effettivamente mentre sto compilando il kernel del portatile sia l'amd64 a farsi carico interamente del lavoro.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fbcyborg wrote:

A questo punto mi viene spontaneo chiedere quale sia un metodo per verificare che effettivamente mentre sto compilando il kernel del portatile sia l'amd64 a farsi carico interamente del lavoro.

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ps aux|grep make :?:

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ottimo!
Sull'amd64:
Code:
 # ps aux|grep make
root      7972  0.2  0.1   2544  1288 pts/1    S+   11:29   0:00 make linux
root      8277  0.0  0.0   2308   984 pts/1    S+   11:29   0:00 make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=arch/um/kernel

sul duron 800:
Code:
# ps aux|grep make
root      8887  0.0  0.0   5256   792 pts/3    R+   11:30   0:00 grep make

Deduco che i miei dubbi siano assolutamente chiariti, adesso sono sicuro che è il mio amd64 a compilare il kernel per il portatile.
Grazie mille. :)
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fbcyborg wrote:

Deduco che i miei dubbi siano assolutamente chiariti, adesso sono sicuro che è il mio amd64 a compilare il kernel per il portatile.

Bene. Mi resta un dubbio sulla efficacia del compilare il kernel da remoto.
Prova a fare un confronto rispetto ad una normale compilazione in ssh con:
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time make clean all modules_install>~/out.txt 2>&1

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, appena ho tempo per questa cosa cercherò di farlo.
Comunque, tempo risparmiato o no, cerco sempre di non far compilare nulla al portatile... :D tnx
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fbcyborg wrote:
Ok, appena ho tempo per questa cosa cercherò di farlo.
Comunque, tempo risparmiato o no, cerco sempre di non far compilare nulla al portatile... :D tnx


Ti capisco. Se il portatile di mia sorella fa boom, io mi posso scordare di tenerci sopra gentoo! :)

Tornando ai tuoi dubbi, la compilazione del kernel sembra più lenta e con più accessi al disco perché i file sorgenti (a differenza di quanto succede quando utilizzi il mio metodo con emerge) si trovano nel disco client. Cerco di spiegarti meglio.

Per quanto riguarda il kernel, per compilare un file (e scusatemi i termini semplicistici), avverranno le seguenti operazioni:

1) PC 1 dove compili accede al PC vecchio per prelevare il sorgente.
2) PC 1 compila
3) PC 1 "manda" il file sul PC vecchio.
Tutto questo si traduci in parecchi accesso al disco e alla rete.

Per l'emerge invece i file si trovano nel /usr/portage/distfiles del PC 1 e vengono scompattati nella ram. Quindi:
1) Li prende dalla RAM del PC1
2) Li compila il PC1
3) Li mette nella RAM sempre del PC1
4) E solo alla fine vanno al PC2

Nei miei esempi ho trascurato l'accessi ai file terzi (vedi parte ./configure) e simili. ;)
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ho notato di recente che quando monto il portatile sul mio amd64 in nfs, se faccio
Code:
ls /boot

non mi vengono elencati i files contenuti in quella directory.
Al contrario le directory contenute in /boot si vedono. In particolare si vede la dir di grub e il link simbolico /boot.
Da cosa può dipendere?
La mia dir di /boot è su una partizione diversa come da manuale di gentoo.
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ragazzi cascate proprio a fagiuolo!
Ho appena provato a far girare gentoo su un 486dx, 8 mb di ram! (usando uclibc)
Però tutte le installazioni e emersioni e compilazioni le ho fatte mettendo l'hd via usb sul mio amd64.. in chroot, anche perchè lo stesso emerge --info viene ucciso dall'oom-killer, che ho imparato a conoscere.
Ad ogni modo proverò presto questo metodo! :wink: :wink:

Ma pensavo per /var/tmp, non conviene fare un mount --bind con il proprio /var/tmp, prima di chroot-tare? (o forse l'avete già detto? :roll: :roll: )
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8O 8O Ho un problemino..
Code:
/etc/init.d/nfs: line 144:  3087 Killed                  $exportfs -r 1>&2


Non ho idea del xke venga ucciso, ma dmesg nn mi dice niente a riguardo.

E di conseguenza sul PC1:
Code:
mount -t nfs 192.168.31.86:/ hd
mount: RPC: Timed out


Come faccio?? C'è un modo x ridurre il numero di processi nfsd caricati? qualcuno ha idea del xke faccia così?

EDIT: Ok con un po di culo (se si può dire) è andato, ma nn so se riuscirò di nuovo...tra l'altro sul dmesg del pc1:
Code:
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, timed out
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, timed out
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, timed out
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, timed out
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, timed out
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, timed out
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, timed out
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 not responding, still trying
nfs: server 192.168.31.86 OK


Ad ogni caso: c'è un modo x esportare non solo il contenuto della partizione montata su /, ma anche ad esempio /boot? (che poi è la stessa domanda di fbcyborg)
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddy89 wrote:

EDIT: Ok con un po di culo

Come, con un colpo di culo :?:
Se risolvi un problema, è generalemente meglio dare una indicazione sulla soluzione.

    1.Per controllare i parametri delle chiamate rpc, è possibile usare il file di configurazione /etc/conf.d/nfs

    2.Per aggiungere nuove condivisioni si utilizza /etc/exports .
    Vedi anche:
    Code:

    man exports
    man nfs
    man nfsd

    La domanda di fbcyborg, però, era un po' diversa. Lui parlava di una cartella su un filesystem fisico diverso da quell del ramo genitore. In effetti, è necessario usare due linee indipendenti in /etc/exports e due mounting indipendenti sul client.

    3.Il problema server not responding potrebbe anche dipendere da una connessione di rete non effiicente.

    4.Per la domanda dell'altro post su come montare /var/tmp, abbiamo detto qualcosina in precedenza.
    Probabilmente esistono soluzioni alternative, ma bada che la tecnica dell'howto è particolarmente attenta, perché consente di utilizzare la ram del PC locale per emerge. E i vantaggi sono indiscutibili.

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloc3 wrote:
eddy89 wrote:

EDIT: Ok con un po di culo

Come, con un colpo di culo :?:
Se risolvi un problema, è generalemente meglio dare una indicazione sulla soluzione.


1) Sul sistema che uso, con 8 mega di ram, può succedere che a volte carichi e a volte no un programma..
2) E talmente lento che ci metterei parecchio a riprovare.
3) Non so cosa mi abbia dato successo ma ho provato ad eseguire manualmente
Code:
exportfs -av ,
exportfs -rv
cat /proc/fs/nfs/exports ogni volta per controllare se aveva successo
e soprattutto ho notato che è come andato a posto da solo senza dare comandi, ovvero dopo l'exportfs nn montava, poi riprovando dopo un po l'ha montato, forse doveva aspettare la generazione di dati random.. boh..

Cmq proverò a vedere quelle configurazioni e quei manuali.
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Sopra (o sotto?) ogni aspettative. Reply with quote

Sopra (o sotto?) ogni aspettative! :lol:

Hai battuto anche me! Io al max ho provato a installare gentoo (con successo) su un pentium 200 e 32 mb di ram.
Ma quanto ci hai impiegato ad avviare il livecd su 486? :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8O 8O Ma figurati se ho avviato il live cd su un 486...
L'ho installato collegando l'hd all'usb del mio computer e chroottando ogni volta...

Cmq ora funziona nfs.. ho emerso kxdrive e ho provato a usarlo come terminale :lol: :lol:
Incredibile ke ci vada anche kde(lanciato sul mio con variabile DISPLAY=x.x.x.x:0 ).. anche se non si capisce niente a 640x480 con qualche colore.. hehe
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umh... un alternativa a cui nn avevo pensato. Ma aimè, piacciono le cose difficili (o semplicemente devo comprarmi un adattatore usb<-ide/sata!) :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Già è veramente ottimo.. supporta sia gli hd piccoli che grandi.. è standard usb-storage solo che ogni tanto si intampa, ma dopo qualche sec si riprende da solo (una volta quando si fermava lo staccavo e ricominciavo da capo dovendo fare un fsck)...

Cmq.. continua a non funzionarmi nfs.. solito errore "mount: RPC: Timed out".. ma ho paura che il problema sia nel client:
infatti ho provato a far partire su una macchina virtuale (qemu) l'hd del 486 (sempre grazie alla famosa usb-ide) ma anche con 128 mega e una cpu decisamente migliore mi da lo stesso errore.. cosa devo controllare sul client?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ciao,
mi sta succedendo una cosa stranissima.
Sto effettuando un emerge -uDNav world
ecco cosa succede se lo faccio dal PC1 (veloce):
Code:
# emerge -uDNav world


Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2006
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
........................



These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.04.1 [1.04] 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.3 [3.5.2-r1] USE="arts berkdb sdl xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-wireless/wireless-tools-28 [28_pre14] USE="nls -multicall" 248 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts ssl wifi xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -rdesktop -sametime -slp -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -tidy -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts imlib opengl -debug -gphoto2 -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -openexr -pdf -povray -scanner -tetex -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -kig-scripting -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts crypt xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -snmp -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kde-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="-accessibility" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-bin-2.0.2  USE="-gnome -java*" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/dhcpcd-2.0.5 [2.0.3] USE="-build -debug -static" 121 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libmp4v2-1.4.1  4,678 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/faad2-2.0-r11  USE="xmms" 757 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/imlib2-1.2.1.009  USE="X gif jpeg mmx mp3 nls png zlib -bzip2* -doc -tiff*" 893 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216  USE="a52 aac encode imlib mmx ogg oss sdl threads truetype vorbis zlib -debug -doc -dts -ieee1394 -network -test -theora -v4l -xvid*" 1,679 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 [1.1.2_pre20060328-r1] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg ipv6 mad opengl oss sdl vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib -asf -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -flac -gnome -imagemagick -libcaca -mng* -modplug -samba* -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" VIDEO_CARDS="-i810 -nvidia -via" 7,844 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/xine-ui-0.99.4-r5  USE="X ncurses nls readline -aalib -curl* -libcaca -lirc -vdr -xinerama" 16 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-libs/gecko-sdk-1.7.13  USE="crypt ipv6 ssl truetype xprint -debug -gnome -java* -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama" 29,912 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a [0.8.2-r2] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin ogg opengl oss png sdl stream truetype vorbis win32codecs% xml xv -3dfx -aalib -avahi% -bidi -cdda -cddb% -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal% -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -matroska -mod -rtsp% -samba* -screen -shout% -skins% -speex -svg -svga* -theora -v4l -vcd -vlm -wxwindows -xinerama% -xosd" 7,030 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/nspr-4.6.2 [4.6.1-r2] USE="ipv6" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/nss-3.11.1-r1 [3.11-r1] 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.4 [1.5.0.3] USE="ipv6 xprint -debug -gnome -java* -mozdevelop -xinerama" 34,549 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/mplayer-1.0.20060415  USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac alsa arts dv dvd dvdread encode esd fbcon gif gtk ipv6 jpeg mad mmx nvidia opengl oss png sdl truetype vorbis win32codecs xmms xv -3dfx -aalib -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dvb -edl -ggi -i8x0 -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -matroska -matrox -mmxext -musepack -nas -openal -real -rtc -samba* -speex% -sse -sse2 -svga* -tga -theora -unicode -v4l -v4l2 -x264 -xanim -xinerama -xvid* -xvmc" 7,479 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-arch/dpkg-1.10.28  USE="zlib -bzip2*" 2,173 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2  USE="ipv6 ssl -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl -samba*" 1,521 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-text/enchant-1.2.5 [1.1.6] 519 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/less-394 [385_p4-r2] USE="-unicode" 480 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-mobilephone/kmobiletools-0.4.3.3 [0.4.3.1] USE="arts -debug -xinerama" 782 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-arch/unrar-3.6.2 [3.4.3] 121 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/rsync-2.6.8-r2 [2.6.8] USE="ipv6 -acl -build -static -xinetd" 754 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.16.19  USE="-build -doc -symlink" 49 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-firewall/iptables-1.3.5-r1 [1.3.4] USE="extensions ipv6 -static" 92 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.2 [0.2.1] 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 101,709 kB

ecco invece cosa accade se lo faccio direttamente dal portatile PC2 (lento):
Code:
# emerge -uDNav world


Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2006
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
................



These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!

[blocks B     ] >=sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r2 (is blocking sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14)
[ebuild     UD] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6 [5.5-r2] USE="gpm -bootstrap -build -debug -doc -minimal -nocxx -unicode" 2,103 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-devel/binutils-2.16.1 [2.16.1-r2] USE="nls -multislot -multitarget -test -vanilla" 12,392 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 [3.4.6-r1] USE="fortran gtk nls -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -doc -gcj -hardened -ip28 -multislot -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -vanilla" 27,751 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r1 [5.8.8-r2] USE="berkdb gdbm ithreads -build -debug -doc -perlsuid" 9,886 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.03 [1.04] 4 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.11-r1 [0.1.13] USE="-caps" 51 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/portage-2.0.54-r2 [2.1] USE="-build -doc" 235 kB
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
    then resume the merge.
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/man-pages-2.31 [2.32] USE="nls" 1,745 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r8 [4.1-r9] USE="pam -debug" 57 kB
[ebuild     UD] x11-terms/xterm-207 [212-r3] USE="toolbar truetype -Xaw3d -doc -unicode" 727 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-libs/jpeg-6b-r5 [6b-r7] 598 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-libs/tiff-3.7.4 [3.8.2] USE="jpeg zlib -nocxx" 1,252 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-text/poppler-0.5.1-r1 [0.5.3] USE="jpeg" 972 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-libs/glib-2.10.2 [2.10.3] USE="-debug -doc -hardened" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/arts-3.5.2 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts% esd mp3 vorbis -artswrappersuid -debug -jack -kdeenablefinal -nas -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.17 [2.8.18] USE="X jpeg -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama" 11,973 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r5 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts cups spell ssl -acl -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -tiff -xinerama -zeroconf" 15,085 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-antivirus/klamav-0.35.1 [0.37] USE="arts -debug -xinerama" 1,581 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-lang/perl-5.8.7-r3 [5.8.8-r2] USE="berkdb gdbm ithreads -build -debug -doc -minimal% -perlsuid" 9,608 kB
[ebuild     UD] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-2.48 [2.56] 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.05 [3.07] 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1 [3.5.3] USE="arts cups opengl pam ssl -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -kdeenablefinal -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver -zeroconf" 23,047 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-mobilephone/gnokii-0.6.10 [0.6.12] USE="X bluetooth nls -irda -mysql -postgres -sms" 1,871 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-crypt/gpgme-1.0.2 [1.1.2-r1] 814 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.2-r2 [3.5.3] USE="arts crypt -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama" 12,585 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.2 [3.5.3] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama" 10,473 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.2-r2 [3.5.3] USE="alsa arts encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -musicbrainz -theora -xine -xinerama" 6,125 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.2 [3.5.3] USE="arts opengl -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver" 16,231 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-wireless/wireless-tools-28 [28_pre14] USE="nls -multicall" 248 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-bin-2.0.2  USE="-gnome -java*" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/faad2-2.0-r3  USE="xmms" 748 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/imlib2-1.2.1.009  USE="X gif jpeg mmx mp3 nls png zlib -bzip2* -doc -tiff*" 893 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216  USE="a52 aac encode imlib mmx ogg oss sdl threads truetype vorbis zlib -debug -doc -dts -ieee1394 -network -test -theora -v4l -xvid*" 1,679 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r1  USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg ipv6 mad nls opengl oss sdl vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib -asf -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -flac -gnome -imagemagick -libcaca -mng* -modplug -samba* -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" VIDEO_CARDS="-i810 -nvidia -via" 7,821 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/xine-ui-0.99.4-r5  USE="X ncurses nls readline -aalib -curl* -libcaca -lirc -vdr -xinerama" 2,501 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-libs/gecko-sdk-1.7.13  USE="crypt ipv6 ssl truetype xprint -debug -gnome -java* -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama" 29,912 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a [0.8.2-r2] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin ogg opengl oss png sdl stream truetype vorbis win32codecs% xml xv -3dfx -aalib -avahi% -bidi -cdda -cddb% -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal% -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -matroska -mod -rtsp% -samba* -screen -shout% -skins% -speex -svg -svga* -theora -v4l -vcd -vlm -wxwindows -xinerama% -xosd" 7,030 kB
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.3  USE="ipv6 xprint -debug -gnome -java* -mozdevelop -xinerama" 34,452 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/mplayer-1.0.20060415  USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac alsa arts dv dvd dvdread encode esd fbcon gif gtk ipv6 jpeg mad mmx nvidia opengl oss png sdl truetype vorbis win32codecs xmms xv -3dfx -aalib -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dvb -edl -ggi -i8x0 -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -matroska -matrox -mmxext -musepack -nas -openal -real -rtc -samba* -speex% -sse -sse2 -svga* -tga -theora -unicode -v4l -v4l2 -x264 -xanim -xinerama -xvid* -xvmc" 7,479 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1 [4.0.15-r2] USE="nls pam -nousuid -skey" 1,217 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14  USE="nls -livecd -skey" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-arch/dpkg-1.10.28  USE="zlib -bzip2*" 2,173 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2  USE="ipv6 ssl -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl -samba*" 1,521 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/less-394 [385_p4-r2] USE="-unicode" 480 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/rsync-2.6.8-r2 [2.6.8] USE="ipv6 -acl -build -static -xinetd" 754 kB

Total size of downloads: 266,093 kB

!!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed
!!!        at the same time on the same system.

Notate nulla di strano??? Sono diversi i due aggiornamenti previsti, PERCHE'???
Basta guardare la dimensione dei files da scaricare nei due casi..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject: :\ Reply with quote

La differenza sembra essere nelle USE FLAGS. Sembra che, dopo aver chrootato, le USEFLAGS non siano state aggiornate. Provato a fare un env-update post il chroot? Fammi sapere ;)

Altra prova che puoi fare è fare emerge -uDav world (escludendo la flags --newuse).

Infine potresti fare un emerge --info in entrambi "i modi". ;)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Long post!!!! Reply with quote

Dunque, di solito il comando env-update lo fa in automatico. Nello script l'ultima riga dopo il montaggio in nfs è:
Code:
linux32 chroot /mnt/nfs/ /bin/bash -c 'env-update && source /etc/profile &&  exec /bin/bash'

Però ho voluto comunque rifare env-update dopo l'esecuzione dello script... Ed in effetti qualcosa è cambiato...
Ora, mi scuso per il lungo post, ma come vedete, se faccio emerge -uDNpv world dal PC1 (veloce) tramite NFS noterete che intanto la dimensione del download è aumentata rispetto ai 100 MB circa che si leggono nel mio precedente post, ed inoltre appare anche una scritta: "Performing Global Updates: ............." in cima alla lista dei pacchetti.
Ecco il risultato:
Via NFS:
Code:
# emerge -uDNpv world


Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2006
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
..........................



These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.04.1 [1.04] 5 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.19 [2.8.18] USE="X jpeg -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama" 12,015 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.3-r2 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts cups spell ssl -acl -debug -doc -fam -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -tiff -xinerama -zeroconf" 15,081 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.3-r1 [3.5.3] USE="arts cups opengl pam ssl -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver -zeroconf" 23,087 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.3-r1 [3.5.3] USE="alsa arts encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -musicbrainz -theora -xine -xinerama" 6,131 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.3 [3.5.2-r1] USE="arts berkdb sdl xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 1,607 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-wireless/wireless-tools-28 [28_pre14] USE="nls -multicall" 248 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.3-r1 [3.5.2] USE="arts ssl wifi xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -rdesktop -sametime -slp -xinerama" 7,351 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 2,064 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -tidy -xinerama" 5,872 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts imlib opengl -debug -gphoto2 -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -openexr -pdf -povray -scanner -tetex -xinerama" 7,135 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -kig-scripting -xinerama" 29,162 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts crypt xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -snmp -xinerama" 2,910 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 3,094 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kde-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="-accessibility" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-bin-2.0.2  USE="-gnome -java*" 119,617 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/dhcpcd-2.0.5 [2.0.3] USE="-build -debug -static" 121 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libmp4v2-1.4.1  4,678 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/faad2-2.0-r11  USE="xmms" 757 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/imlib2-1.2.1.009  USE="X gif jpeg mmx mp3 nls png zlib -bzip2* -doc -tiff*" 893 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216  USE="a52 aac encode imlib mmx ogg oss sdl threads truetype vorbis zlib -debug -doc -dts -ieee1394 -network -test -theora -v4l -xvid*" 1,679 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 [1.1.2_pre20060328-r1] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg ipv6 mad opengl oss sdl vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib -asf -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -flac -gnome -imagemagick -libcaca -mng* -modplug -samba* -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" VIDEO_CARDS="-i810 -nvidia -via" 7,844 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/xine-ui-0.99.4-r5  USE="X ncurses nls readline -aalib -curl* -libcaca -lirc -vdr -xinerama" 2,501 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-libs/gecko-sdk-1.7.13  USE="crypt ipv6 ssl truetype xprint -debug -gnome -java* -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama" 29,912 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a [0.8.2-r2] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin ogg opengl oss png sdl stream truetype vorbis win32codecs% xml xv -3dfx -aalib -avahi% -bidi -cdda -cddb% -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal% -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -matroska -mod -rtsp% -samba* -screen -shout% -skins% -speex -svg -svga* -theora -v4l -vcd -vlm -wxwindows -xinerama% -xosd" 7,030 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/nspr-4.6.2 [4.6.1-r2] USE="ipv6" 1,271 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/nss-3.11.1-r1 [3.11-r1] 3,564 kB
[ebuild     U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.4 [1.5.0.3] USE="ipv6 xprint -debug -gnome -java* -mozdevelop -xinerama" 34,549 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre8 [1.0.20060415] USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac alsa arts dv dvd dvdread encode esd fbcon gif gtk ipv6 jpeg mad mmx nls% nvidia opengl oss png sdl truetype vorbis win32codecs xmms xv -3dfx -aalib -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dvb -ggi -i8x0 -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -matrox -mmxext -musepack -nas -openal -real -rtc -samba* -speex% -sse -sse2 -svga* -tga -theora -unicode -v4l -v4l2 -x264 -xanim -xinerama -xvid* -xvmc" 8,882 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-arch/dpkg-1.10.28  USE="zlib -bzip2*" 2,173 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2  USE="ipv6 ssl -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl -samba*" 1,521 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-text/enchant-1.2.5 [1.1.6] 519 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/less-394 [385_p4-r2] USE="-unicode" 480 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-mobilephone/kmobiletools-0.4.3.3 [0.4.3.1] USE="arts -debug -xinerama" 782 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-arch/unrar-3.6.2 [3.4.3] 121 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/rsync-2.6.8-r2 [2.6.8] USE="ipv6 -acl -build -static -xinetd" 754 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.16.19  USE="-build -doc -symlink" 39,937 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-firewall/iptables-1.3.5-r1 [1.3.4] USE="extensions ipv6 -static" 279 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.2 [0.2.1] 84 kB

Total size of downloads: 385,730 kB


Via SSH (o direttamente sul PC2):
Code:
# emerge -uDNpv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!

[blocks B     ] >=sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r2 (is blocking sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14)
[ebuild     UD] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6 [5.5-r2] USE="gpm -bootstrap -build -debug -doc -minimal -nocxx -unicode" 2,103 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-devel/binutils-2.16.1 [2.16.1-r2] USE="nls -multislot -multitarget -test -vanilla" 12,392 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 [3.4.6-r1] USE="fortran gtk nls -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -doc -gcj -hardened -ip28 -multislot -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -vanilla" 27,751 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r1 [5.8.8-r2] USE="berkdb gdbm ithreads -build -debug -doc -perlsuid" 9,886 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.03 [1.04] 4 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.11-r1 [0.1.13] USE="-caps" 51 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/portage-2.0.54-r2 [2.1] USE="-build -doc" 235 kB
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
    then resume the merge.
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/man-pages-2.31 [2.32] USE="nls" 1,745 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r8 [4.1-r9] USE="pam -debug" 57 kB
[ebuild     UD] x11-terms/xterm-207 [212-r3] USE="toolbar truetype -Xaw3d -doc -unicode" 727 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-libs/jpeg-6b-r5 [6b-r7] 598 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-libs/tiff-3.7.4 [3.8.2] USE="jpeg zlib -nocxx" 1,252 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-text/poppler-0.5.1-r1 [0.5.3] USE="jpeg" 972 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-libs/glib-2.10.2 [2.10.3] USE="-debug -doc -hardened" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/arts-3.5.2 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts% esd mp3 vorbis -artswrappersuid -debug -jack -kdeenablefinal -nas -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.17 [2.8.18] USE="X jpeg -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama" 11,973 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r5 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts cups spell ssl -acl -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -tiff -xinerama -zeroconf" 15,085 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-antivirus/klamav-0.35.1 [0.37] USE="arts -debug -xinerama" 1,581 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-lang/perl-5.8.7-r3 [5.8.8-r2] USE="berkdb gdbm ithreads -build -debug -doc -minimal% -perlsuid" 9,608 kB
[ebuild     UD] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-2.48 [2.56] 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.05 [3.07] 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1 [3.5.3] USE="arts cups opengl pam ssl -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -kdeenablefinal -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver -zeroconf" 23,047 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-mobilephone/gnokii-0.6.10 [0.6.12] USE="X bluetooth nls -irda -mysql -postgres -sms" 1,871 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-crypt/gpgme-1.0.2 [1.1.2-r1] 814 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.2-r2 [3.5.3] USE="arts crypt -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama" 12,585 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.2 [3.5.3] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama" 10,473 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.2-r2 [3.5.3] USE="alsa arts encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -musicbrainz -theora -xine -xinerama" 6,125 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.2 [3.5.3] USE="arts opengl -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver" 16,231 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-wireless/wireless-tools-28 [28_pre14] USE="nls -multicall" 248 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-bin-2.0.2  USE="-gnome -java*" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/faad2-2.0-r3  USE="xmms" 748 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/imlib2-1.2.1.009  USE="X gif jpeg mmx mp3 nls png zlib -bzip2* -doc -tiff*" 893 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216  USE="a52 aac encode imlib mmx ogg oss sdl threads truetype vorbis zlib -debug -doc -dts -ieee1394 -network -test -theora -v4l -xvid*" 1,679 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r1  USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg ipv6 mad nls opengl oss sdl vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib -asf -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -flac -gnome -imagemagick -libcaca -mng* -modplug -samba* -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" VIDEO_CARDS="-i810 -nvidia -via" 7,821 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/xine-ui-0.99.4-r5  USE="X ncurses nls readline -aalib -curl* -libcaca -lirc -vdr -xinerama" 2,501 kB
[ebuild   R   ] net-libs/gecko-sdk-1.7.13  USE="crypt ipv6 ssl truetype xprint -debug -gnome -java* -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama" 29,912 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a [0.8.2-r2] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin ogg opengl oss png sdl stream truetype vorbis win32codecs% xml xv -3dfx -aalib -avahi% -bidi -cdda -cddb% -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal% -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -matroska -mod -rtsp% -samba* -screen -shout% -skins% -speex -svg -svga* -theora -v4l -vcd -vlm -wxwindows -xinerama% -xosd" 7,030 kB
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.3  USE="ipv6 xprint -debug -gnome -java* -mozdevelop -xinerama" 34,452 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/mplayer-1.0.20060415  USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac alsa arts dv dvd dvdread encode esd fbcon gif gtk ipv6 jpeg mad mmx nvidia opengl oss png sdl truetype vorbis win32codecs xmms xv -3dfx -aalib -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dvb -edl -ggi -i8x0 -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -matroska -matrox -mmxext -musepack -nas -openal -real -rtc -samba* -speex% -sse -sse2 -svga* -tga -theora -unicode -v4l -v4l2 -x264 -xanim -xinerama -xvid* -xvmc" 7,479 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1 [4.0.15-r2] USE="nls pam -nousuid -skey" 1,217 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14  USE="nls -livecd -skey" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-arch/dpkg-1.10.28  USE="zlib -bzip2*" 2,173 kB
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2  USE="ipv6 ssl -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl -samba*" 1,521 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/less-394 [385_p4-r2] USE="-unicode" 480 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/rsync-2.6.8-r2 [2.6.8] USE="ipv6 -acl -build -static -xinetd" 754 kB

Total size of downloads: 266,093 kB

Addirittura nel secondo caso abbiamo un pacchetto bloccato e portage che non sembra aggiornato!!!

Ebbene... facendo invece emerge -uDpv world per quanto riguarda il messaggio "Performing Global Updates ....." appare solo via SSH o direttamente sul PC2 (lento) (il contrario di prima), adesso sono cambiate ancora le dimensioni totali del download, ed ecco i risultati:
VIA NFS dal PC1:
Code:
# emerge -uDpv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.04.1 [1.04] 5 kB
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.19 [2.8.18] USE="X jpeg -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama" 12,015 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.3-r2 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts cups spell ssl -acl -debug -doc -fam -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -tiff -xinerama -zeroconf" 15,081 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.3-r1 [3.5.3] USE="arts cups opengl pam ssl -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver -zeroconf" 23,087 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.3-r1 [3.5.3] USE="alsa arts encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -akode -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -musicbrainz -theora -xine -xinerama" 6,131 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.5.3 [3.5.2-r1] USE="arts berkdb sdl xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 1,607 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-wireless/wireless-tools-28 [28_pre14] USE="nls -multicall" 248 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.5.3-r1 [3.5.2] USE="arts ssl wifi xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -rdesktop -sametime -slp -xinerama" 7,351 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 2,064 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdewebdev-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -doc -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -tidy -xinerama" 5,872 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts imlib opengl -debug -gphoto2 -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -openexr -pdf -povray -scanner -tetex -xinerama" 7,135 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -kig-scripting -xinerama" 29,162 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts crypt xmms -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -snmp -xinerama" 2,910 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility% -xinerama" 3,094 kB
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kde-3.5.3 [3.5.2] USE="-accessibility" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/dhcpcd-2.0.5 [2.0.3] USE="-build -debug -static" 121 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libmp4v2-1.4.1  4,678 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/faad2-2.0-r11  USE="xmms" 757 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.2_pre20060328-r9 [1.1.2_pre20060328-r1] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg ipv6 mad opengl oss sdl vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib -asf -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -flac -gnome -imagemagick -libcaca -mng* -modplug -samba* -speex -theora -v4l -vcd -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" VIDEO_CARDS="-i810 -nvidia -via" 7,844 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a [0.8.2-r2] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin ogg opengl oss png sdl stream truetype vorbis win32codecs% xml xv -3dfx -aalib -avahi% -bidi -cdda -cddb% -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal% -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -matroska -mod -rtsp% -samba* -screen -shout% -skins% -speex -svg -svga* -theora -v4l -vcd -vlm -wxwindows -xinerama% -xosd" 7,030 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/nspr-4.6.2 [4.6.1-r2] USE="ipv6" 1,271 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/nss-3.11.1-r1 [3.11-r1] 3,564 kB
[ebuild     U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.4 [1.5.0.3] USE="ipv6 xprint -debug -gnome -java* -mozdevelop -xinerama" 34,549 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre8 [1.0.20060415] USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac alsa arts dv dvd dvdread encode esd fbcon gif gtk ipv6 jpeg mad mmx nls% nvidia opengl oss png sdl truetype vorbis win32codecs xmms xv -3dfx -aalib -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dvb -ggi -i8x0 -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -matrox -mmxext -musepack -nas -openal -real -rtc -samba* -speex% -sse -sse2 -svga* -tga -theora -unicode -v4l -v4l2 -x264 -xanim -xinerama -xvid* -xvmc" 8,882 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-text/enchant-1.2.5 [1.1.6] 519 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/less-394 [385_p4-r2] USE="-unicode" 480 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-mobilephone/kmobiletools-0.4.3.3 [0.4.3.1] USE="arts -debug -xinerama" 782 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-arch/unrar-3.6.2 [3.4.3] 121 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/rsync-2.6.8-r2 [2.6.8] USE="ipv6 -acl -build -static -xinetd" 754 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.16.19  USE="-build -doc -symlink" 39,937 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-firewall/iptables-1.3.5-r1 [1.3.4] USE="extensions ipv6 -static" 279 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.2 [0.2.1] 84 kB

Total size of downloads: 227,428 kB


VIA SSH (o direttamente dal PC2):
Code:
# emerge -uDpv world


Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/2Q-2006
(Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
  s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*'
................



These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!

[blocks B     ] >=sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r2 (is blocking sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14)
[ebuild     UD] sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r6 [5.5-r2] USE="gpm -bootstrap -build -debug -doc -minimal -nocxx -unicode" 2,103 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-devel/binutils-2.16.1 [2.16.1-r2] USE="nls -multislot -multitarget -test -vanilla" 12,392 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.5-r1 [3.4.6-r1] USE="fortran gtk nls -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -doc -gcj -hardened -ip28 -multislot -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -vanilla" 27,751 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r1 [5.8.8-r2] USE="berkdb gdbm ithreads -build -debug -doc -perlsuid" 9,886 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-admin/perl-cleaner-1.03 [1.04] 4 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-misc/pax-utils-0.1.11-r1 [0.1.13] USE="-caps" 51 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/portage-2.0.54-r2 [2.1] USE="-build -doc" 235 kB
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
    then resume the merge.
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/man-pages-2.31 [2.32] USE="nls" 1,745 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r8 [4.1-r9] USE="pam -debug" 57 kB
[ebuild     UD] x11-terms/xterm-207 [212-r3] USE="toolbar truetype -Xaw3d -doc -unicode" 727 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-libs/jpeg-6b-r5 [6b-r7] 598 kB
[ebuild     UD] media-libs/tiff-3.7.4 [3.8.2] USE="jpeg zlib -nocxx" 1,252 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-text/poppler-0.5.1-r1 [0.5.3] USE="jpeg" 972 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-libs/glib-2.10.2 [2.10.3] USE="-debug -doc -hardened" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/arts-3.5.2 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts% esd mp3 vorbis -artswrappersuid -debug -jack -kdeenablefinal -nas -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.17 [2.8.18] USE="X jpeg -debug -doc -tiff -xinerama" 11,973 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r5 [3.5.3-r1] USE="alsa arts cups spell ssl -acl -debug -doc -jpeg2k -kdeenablefinal -kerberos -legacyssl -openexr -tiff -xinerama -zeroconf" 15,085 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-antivirus/klamav-0.35.1 [0.37] USE="arts -debug -xinerama" 1,581 kB
[ebuild     UD] dev-lang/perl-5.8.7-r3 [5.8.8-r2] USE="berkdb gdbm ithreads -build -debug -doc -minimal% -perlsuid" 9,608 kB
[ebuild     UD] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-2.48 [2.56] 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.05 [3.07] 0 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1 [3.5.3] USE="arts cups opengl pam ssl -debug -hal -ieee1394 -java -kdeenablefinal -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr -samba -xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver -zeroconf" 23,047 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-mobilephone/gnokii-0.6.10 [0.6.12] USE="X bluetooth nls -irda -mysql -postgres -sms" 1,871 kB
[ebuild     UD] app-crypt/gpgme-1.0.2 [1.1.2-r1] 814 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdepim-3.5.2-r2 [3.5.3] USE="arts crypt -debug -gnokii -kdeenablefinal -pda -xinerama" 12,585 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdegames-3.5.2 [3.5.3] USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama" 10,473 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.5.2-r2 [3.5.3] USE="alsa arts encode gstreamer mp3 vorbis -audiofile -debug -flac -kdeenablefinal -musicbrainz -theora -xine -xinerama" 6,125 kB
[ebuild     UD] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.5.2 [3.5.3] USE="arts opengl -debug -kdeenablefinal -xinerama -xscreensaver" 16,231 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-wireless/wireless-tools-28 [28_pre14] USE="nls -multicall" 248 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/faad2-2.0-r3  USE="xmms" 748 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a [0.8.2-r2] USE="X a52 aac alsa arts dvd esd fbcon ffmpeg mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin ogg opengl oss png sdl stream truetype vorbis win32codecs% xml xv -3dfx -aalib -avahi% -bidi -cdda -cddb% -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal% -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -matroska -mod -rtsp% -samba* -screen -shout% -skins% -speex -svg -svga* -theora -v4l -vcd -vlm -wxwindows -xinerama% -xosd" 7,030 kB
[ebuild     UD] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1 [4.0.15-r2] USE="nls pam -nousuid -skey" 1,217 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14  USE="nls -livecd -skey" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/less-394 [385_p4-r2] USE="-unicode" 480 kB
[ebuild     U ] net-misc/rsync-2.6.8-r2 [2.6.8] USE="ipv6 -acl -build -static -xinetd" 754 kB

Total size of downloads: 177,656 kB


Ed ecco in fine l' emerge --info nei due casi (cerco di evidenziare le differenze):
VIA NFS wrote:
Portage 2.1 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3,
2.6.16-gentoo-r9-skas3-v9-pre9 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r9-skas3-v9-pre9 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14
ccache version 2.3 [disabled]
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: 2.3
dev-util/confcache: [Not Present]
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r2
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r5
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-tbird -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown
/usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/splash /etc/terminfo"

CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-tbird -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://www.die.unipd.it/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo-sources/
#http://mir.zyrianes.net/gentoo/"
LANG="it_IT@euro"
LC_ALL="it_IT@euro"

PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force
--whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles'
--exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 3dnow S3TC X a52 aac acpi alsa apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bluetooth
cdr clamav cli crypt cups dri dv dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd extensions fat
fbcon fbsplash ffmpeg foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gimp gimpprint gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2
imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads jfs john jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mp3 mpeg
mpeg2 mpeg4 mplayer ncurses nfs nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin ntfs ntlm nvidia ogg opengl oss
pam pcre pdflib perl png ppds pppd python qt quicktime rar readline real reflection sdl
sensord session spell spl ssl stream tcpd threads toolbar truetype truetype-fonts
type1-fonts udev vorbis wifi win32codecs xchatdccserver xml xmms xorg xprint xv zlib
elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU"
Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS,
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS

SUL PC 2 wrote:

Portage 2.1 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3,
2.6.16-gentoo-r9-skas3-v9-pre9 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.16-gentoo-r9-skas3-v9-pre9 i686 mobile AMD Duron(tm)
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14
ccache version 2.3 [disabled]
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: 2.3
dev-util/confcache: [Not Present]
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r5
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-tbird -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config
/var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/eselect/compiler /etc/gconf /etc/splash /etc/terminfo"

CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-tbird -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://www.die.unipd.it/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo-sources/
#http://mir.zyrianes.net/gentoo/"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force
--whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles'
--exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages'"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 3dnow S3TC X a52 aac acpi alsa apache2 apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bluetooth
cdr clamav cli crypt cups dri dv dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd extensions fat
fbcon fbsplash ffmpeg foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gimp gimpprint gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2
imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads jfs john jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx motif mp3 mpeg
mpeg2 mpeg4 mplayer ncurses nfs nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin ntfs ntlm nvidia ogg opengl oss
pam pcre pdflib perl png ppds pppd python qt quicktime rar readline real reflection sdl
sensord session spell spl ssl stream tcpd threads toolbar truetype truetype-fonts
type1-fonts udev vorbis wifi win32codecs xchatdccserver xml xmms xorg xprint xv zlib
elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU"
Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS,
LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umh, forse ci sono (e dico forse):
prova ad omettere
mount --bind /usr/portage/ /mnt/nfs/usr/portage/ e confronta ancora i risultati.
Naturalmente prima effettua sul portatile un emerge --sync.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOh!!!
:D
Grandissimo Maurs!!!
Finalmente adesso vedo gli stessi risultati da entrambe le postazioni...
Quindi posso definitivamente eliminare quella riga dallo script, in quanto inutile e dannosa????

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fbcyborg wrote:
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Grandissimo Maurs!!!
Finalmente adesso vedo gli stessi risultati da entrambe le postazioni...
Quindi posso definitivamente eliminare quella riga dallo script, in quanto inutile e dannosa????


E no. Non scambiamo lucciole per lanterne. Prima di tutto, eliminando questa riga, si rallenta un pochino tutto il procedimento (solo poco, è vero, praticamente si aggiunge qualche passaggio in più di rete). Ma credo che il problema sia solo quando si fa il chroot da sistemi a 64 bit.
Non credo (e sfortunatamente non ho modo di provare ora) che il problemi sussiste per i sistemi a 32 bit con lo stesso profile! Aggiungerò una nota al più presto, ovvero quando potrò testare con calma. Se qualcuno ha la possibilità di fare un pò di prove, pls, comunicatemelo.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scusate la domanda, ma volendo è possibile applicare questo procedimento per utilizzare il mio pc x86(_64) per compilare la gentoo su un portatile ppc32?
Che trucchetto potrei usare?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

corpy wrote:
Scusate la domanda, ma volendo è possibile applicare questo procedimento per utilizzare il mio pc x86(_64) per compilare la gentoo su un portatile ppc32?
Che trucchetto potrei usare?


Mi sa che l'unica cosa che ti conviene usare, nel tuo caso, è distcc. Il mio metodo ti creerebbe solo problemi e risulterebbe molto complicato da applicare (se non impossibile) ;)
Ricordati che oltre a dover installare su entrambe le macchine distcc, devi installare sulla tua macchina x86 le utility necessarie. In definitiva dai un'occhiata a questi due link:

Per saper cos'è e come usare distcc:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml

Più specificatamente per il tuo caso:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cross-compiling-distcc.xml

Ti ricordo che se vuoi stressare il meno possibile il tuo processore, l'unico metodo è quello di non specificare l'host locale come macchina per compilare, ovvero

Code:
distcc-config --set-hosts "indirizzo-ip-della-macchina-da-sfruttare" ;)


omettendo "localhost".

Naturalmente il processore del tuo ppc32 verrà sempre sfruttato, ma in modo assai minore rispetto al normale.
Spero di esserti stato utile.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aggiungo che le guide indicate da maurs ci sono anche in italiano, basta sostituire nell'indirizzo "en" con "it".
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