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urbanomad
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 Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: Macromedia Flash under AMD 64 |
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Has anyone gotten this working? I can't figure out what I need to do 
I tried emerging netscape-flash assuming that would set up everything I needed but I still can't view flash movies in Firefox. |
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TerranAce007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thats probably because you compiled firefox, so it is a 64 bit program. Flash is still only a 32 bit plugin, so you have to emerge the 32bit version of firefox (firefox-bin) in order to get flash to work. Until macromedia decides to release a 64bit plugin for linux, you must either use a 32 bit browser, or see if you can get one of the open-source flash players in portage to work. I never really had any luck with them, so I use a 32 bit browser with a special mplayerplug-in-bin for those propietary video codecs that don't have 64 bit versions.
You can have 32 and 64 bit versions of firefox installed togther. They use the same settings folder in home, so you can switch between them, but I rarely ever fire up the 64 bit version since the 32 has all the working plugins.
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urbanomad
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:32 am Post subject: |
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tried getting the nspluginwrapper to work but I'm not all that familiar with using non-approved ebuilds so I wasn't able to get it working.
I tried emerging the 32 bit firefox and netscape-flash plugin, and now it works, but there's no sound. |
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stobbsm
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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you could always try gnash
there is an ebuild, and it supposedly works with most flashplayer 7 movies.
Sorry, I don't have a link, I'm at work and don't have time to search for it right now.
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longship
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Macromedia Flash under AMD 64 |
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| urbanomad wrote: | Has anyone gotten this working? I can't figure out what I need to do
I tried emerging netscape-flash assuming that would set up everything I needed but I still can't view flash movies in Firefox. |
I have Firefox (32-bit) working with Flash and Mplayer plugins. Java is yet to come.
Shockwave was easy.
| Code: | emerge firefox-bin
emerge netscape-flash |
These will load the 32-bit firefox and Flash.
If you are using the 64-bit Firefox, you'll have to consider whether you really need Flash, since it is a 32-bit only plugin.
You'll find complete instructions here --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AMD_64
32-bit Mplayer plugin was a bit more complex. You'll need that for all the Windows/Quicktime Web content, which also work only on 32-bit.
You'll find complete instructions here --> http://www.sh.nu/download/ebuilds/mplayer/
Download the two version 3.11 mplayerplug-in-bin files (at the bottom of the page) and then follow the instructions at the top of the page to install them. After installation of the binaries in /opt/netscape you'll have to copy the plugins to the firefox plugin directory:
| Code: | | cp /opt/netscape/plugins/mplayerplug-in* /opt/firefoc/plugins |
These steps will work only if you are using the 32-bit firefox-bin. My experience so far is that the 32-bit Firefox is very, very fast. I can't imagine why anybody would need the 64-bit version.
When you've done that, you'll be able to view video content including Windows and Quicktime by just clicking on them. It works.
<on edit> you'll also have to emerge the following for mplayerplug-in-bin:
| Code: | app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl
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urbanomad
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| stobbsm wrote: | you could always try gnash
there is an ebuild, and it supposedly works with most flashplayer 7 movies.
Sorry, I don't have a link, I'm at work and don't have time to search for it right now. |
the problem with gnash is there is no firefox plugin. It's a standalone player only. There isn't really many times that I want to view a flash movie locally, it's always a webpage someone wants me to look at.
longship, I did all that to get flash working, but the problem is that there is no sound. Do you also need to emerge the mplayer stuff to get the sound working? It doesn't seem that way according to the howto.
Also, I made an icon in my kde menu that links to /usr/bin/firefox-bin, but for some reason it opens the 64 bit firefox instead of the 32 bit. Hmmmm. |
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stobbsm
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Features
Runs standalone
Gnash can run standalone to play flash movies.
Firefox plugin
Gnash can also run as a plugin from within Firefox.
SWF v7 compliant
Gnash can play many current flash movies.
XML Message server
Gnash also supports an XML based message system as is documented in the Flash Format specification.
High Quality Output
Gnash uses OpenGL for rendering the graphics.
Free Software
Gnash is 100% free software. For more information on the GPL, go to the Free Software Foundation web site. |
The above was taken from the gnash website. Notice the 3rd and 4th lines. Firefox plugin. Can also run as a plugin from within firefox.
I don't have my amd64 system yet (should be here monday or tuesday), but it says it has a firefox plugin.
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urbanomad
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| stobbsm wrote: |
I don't have my amd64 system yet (should be here monday or tuesday), but it says it has a firefox plugin. |
oh good, then you can show me how to get the firefox plugin working.
From the ebuild:
| Quote: | # plugin disabled, because gnash does not work perfectly yet ..
# --with-firefox=PFX Prefix where firefox is installed (optional)
# --with-firefox-libraries=DIR Directory where firefox library is installed (optional)
# --with-firefox-includes=DIR Directory where firefox header files are installed (optional)
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According to the mailing lists for gnash, "does not work perfectly yet" tends to mean "hardly works at all". Most of the bugs reported have to do with it crashing under AMD64, or not compiling at all. There actually isn't even an AMD64 keywords in the ebuild. That didn't stop me from modifying the ebuild myself.
I did get it to compile, but I'm not sure how to get the plugin working. It has something to do with pointing those 3 lines at the correct directories, but I'm not quite sure which directories those are.
Let me know when you get it working  |
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stobbsm
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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if you have gentoolkit, you can try an
| Code: | | equery files mozilla-firefox |
and it should tell you by looking at the files.
just to narrow it down, try doing a
| Code: | grep -i .so //for the libraries
grep -i .h //for the header files |
I'll look at it when I get it all installed.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I used to get Segmentation Faults all the time using mozilla-firefox-bin and 32bit macromedia flash. I havent heard of others with this issue, but this happened to me and I have no idea why. I just have the feeling though that not even Macromedia's 32-bit flash is stable on amd64. I run a x86 install now and have never had the issue.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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well, flash 8.5 for 64-bit (amd64, em64t, etc, and such..) linux should be here any minute now... keeping the hopes up..  |
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frank1980
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| borkdox wrote: | | well, flash 8.5 for 64-bit (amd64, em64t, etc, and such..) linux should be here any minute now... keeping the hopes up.. |
I waiting here
That's really a hope. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Macromedia Flash under AMD 64 |
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| longship wrote: | 32-bit Mplayer plugin was a bit more complex. You'll need that for all the Windows/Quicktime Web content, which also work only on 32-bit.
You'll find complete instructions here --> http://www.sh.nu/download/ebuilds/mplayer/
Download the two version 3.11 mplayerplug-in-bin files (at the bottom of the page) and then follow the instructions at the top of the page to install them. After installation of the binaries in /opt/netscape you'll have to copy the plugins to the firefox plugin directory:
| Code: | | cp /opt/netscape/plugins/mplayerplug-in* /opt/firefoc/plugins |
These steps will work only if you are using the 32-bit firefox-bin. My experience so far is that the 32-bit Firefox is very, very fast. I can't imagine why anybody would need the 64-bit version.
When you've done that, you'll be able to view video content including Windows and Quicktime by just clicking on them. It works.
<on edit> you'll also have to emerge the following for mplayerplug-in-bin:
| Code: | app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-medialibs
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-sdl
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Its even easier than that.
For a 64bit konqueror, use kmplayer. Rename the 64bit version of mplayer to something like mplayer64 and then link mplayer to mplayer-bin. Now kmplayer will use the 32bit version of mplayer in your 64bit version of konqueror. If you want to run the 64bit version of mplayer for things like encoding, just use mplayer64.
For a 64bit firefox, just install the media connectivity extension. Then you can select mplayer-bin for the 32bit only formats and you should be fine accessing 32bit only codecs. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| urbanomad wrote: | | longship, I did all that to get flash working, but the problem is that there is no sound. Do you also need to emerge the mplayer stuff to get the sound working? It doesn't seem that way according to the howto. |
I had to emerge alsa-oss, and then run firefox with "aoss /usr/bin/firefox-bin" to get sound in flash to play. I think I also re-emerged alsa-driver with the OSS use flag, so that might help as well. |
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jure1873
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: now working anymore |
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I've somehow broken the netscape-flash. Whenever I try to view something firefox (32bit) crashes
I've tried re-emergins netscape-flash but it still doesn't work. |
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salfter
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Between messages here and elsewhere, I've gotten the newest nspluginwrapper working. It's nice to be able to just go to YouTube and watch stuff instead of jumping through hoops to download the video and play it in mplayer. I've summarized it in this /. JE. The trick was to switch from kernel-space ALSA OSS emulation to user-space ALSA OSS emulation, as the kernel-space variety doesn't play well with the KDE sound system. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| funklord wrote: | | urbanomad wrote: | | longship, I did all that to get flash working, but the problem is that there is no sound. Do you also need to emerge the mplayer stuff to get the sound working? It doesn't seem that way according to the howto. |
I had to emerge alsa-oss, and then run firefox with "aoss /usr/bin/firefox-bin" to get sound in flash to play. I think I also re-emerged alsa-driver with the OSS use flag, so that might help as well. |
This is what I did except the aoss didn't help, so I recompiled ALSA with the OSS flag and then ran firefox without aoss and it worked fine. I have dmix enabled also.
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