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DEPRECATED FOR 2.6.15-no3!
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-430397.html
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No-Sources 2.6.15-r2 "Whirling Whirlpool"
Brought to you by, cheater-conrad, joecool, and JasonF
What is it?
As some of you may know, no-sources is an older patchset (last release: 2.6.12-rc6-no1) based on -mm with other nice tweaks. joecool and I have brought this patchset back to you, with parts of -mm, and tons of other nice patches, some that used to be in -no and some that were not. Enjoy this patchset, and enjoy future releases of it as well. Only expect the best efforts and support from us 
-cheater-conrad
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1/30/06 - Changed to no.oldos.org mirror, also changed ebuild to not require udev 0.79+ anymore, so you DO NOT need the new udev and baselayout.
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PATCHES
FOR DETAILED PATCHLIST SEE...
http://enderandrew.com/conrad/no-sources/2.6.15-no2/patchlist.txt
| Code: | 01_mm-patches_and-branding.patch (2.6.15-mm4)
- > Several patches from Andrew Mortons Patchset
02_reiser4-from-mm.patch (reiser4 filesystem support, taken from mm)
- > Support for the reiser4 file system (patches from -mm)
03_daconfig.patch (Show name of kernel in menuconfig title)
- > A patch to make the menuconfig a little more pretty, showing the kernel name, e.g. whirling whirlpool, in menuconfig title
04_ck-patches.patch
/ 1g_lowmem1_i386.diff
/ hz-default_values.patch
/ pdflush-tweaks.patch
- > A few nice CK Patches
05_suspend2-2.2-for-2.6.15.patch (Suspend2 Power Management)
- > Suspend2 Ver: 2.2 Support includes
06_vesafb-tng-1.0-rc1-r3.patch (Allow vesafb-tng instead of vesafb)
- > Vesafb-tng includes (replacement for vesafb)
07_fbsplash-0.9.2-r5.patch (Support for FrameBuffer Splash Screens)
- > FBSplash Included for allowance of the framebuffer/gensplash splash
08_bdz_undervolt.2006.01.07.patch (Pentium M Underclocking and Undervolting)
- > Save battery power by undervolting your Mobile Pentium CPU
09_kernel-2.6.13-2.6.15-layer7-2.1.patch (iptables Layer7 Support
- > Support for iptables layer7
10_squashfs-2.2.patch (Support for the Squashfs Filesystem)
- > Support for Squashfs, used for LiveCDs
11_unionfs-1.1.2.patch (Support for the Unionfs FileSystem)
- > Support for UnionFS, used for LiveCDs
12_config-nr-tty-devices.patch (Cleaner /dev, Less tty Devices)
- > Make /dev a lot cleaner, and remove tons of clutter
14_sata_pm.2.6.15.patch (SATA Power Management Patch)
- > Support for SATA Power Mangement
15_usbhid-readd-kconfig.patch (USB HID Mouse Interrupt Polling Interval Patch)
- > Control the speed of your USB Mouse
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INSTALL
| Code: | Gentoo:
1) # wget http://no.oldos.org/files/2.6.15-no2/no-sources-2.6.15-r2.ebuild
2) # nano /etc/make.conf
(Make sure that, PORTDIR_OVERLAY, is set to ="/usr/local/portage")
3) # mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/no-sources
4) # mv no-sources-2.6.15-r2.ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/no-sources
5) # ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/no-sources/no-sources-2.6.15-r2.ebuild digest
6) # echo "sys-kernel/no-sources ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
7) # echo "sys-kernel/no-sources symlink" >> /etc/portage/package.use
8) # emerge no-sources
OTHER Distros:
1) # cd /usr/src/
2) # wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.15.tar.bz2
3) # wget http://enderandrew.com/conrad/no-sources/2.6.15-no2/patch-2.6.15-no2.bz2
4) # tar jxvpf linux-2.6.15.tar.bz2
5) # ln -s linux-2.6.15 linux
6) # cd linux
7) # bzcat ../patch-2.6.15-no2.bz2 | patch -p1
8) # rm ../linux-2.6.15.tar.bz2; rm ../2.6.15-no1.bz2 |
SUPPORT
As mentioned above, post all support issues in this thread or on #no-sources, or even #conrad on FreeNode
*MIRRORS*
EBUILD
PATCH
BROKEN-OUT .TBZ2
BROKEN-OUT FOLDER
NOTES (Patch Listing)
Have Fun!
- Cheater-Conrad, joecool, and JasonF
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Where is the cool fan control patch?
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| Phlogiston wrote: | | Where is the cool fan control patch? |
Ahh, Sorry forgot about that one :-p
You can apply it manually, I believe that patch is located...
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Patch_for_controlling_fan_speed#The_patch
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Re: -{NO-SOURCES}- 2.6.15-no2 "Whirling Whirlpool" |
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | A big philosophy of no-sources, is to not use staircase (ck) in any releases. |
I'm going to search this in a second, but could you possibly stick in a link to some rant, article, or even write up reasons yourself. I'm actually very interested! |
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I don't know how many patches from the mm tree are included, but I can attest from making my own patchsets, that the mm tree does not play nicely with the ck patches.
I've tried to get them to play nicely with one another, with poor results thusfar. That is why I haven't shared with the class yet. I may give up on that effort and make a patchset that largely drops the mm tree altogether.
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I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver!
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| Master_of_Puppets wrote: | I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver! |
You can apply it by yourself manually, works for me  |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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You can apply it by yourself manually, works for me |
Which, applied to all patches, would make the patchsets redundant alltogether
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| Tiger683 wrote: | | xbb wrote: |
You can apply it by yourself manually, works for me |
Which, applied to all patches, would make the patchsets redundant alltogether |
Yes thats what I thought and probably why no ck patches are included 
I'm waiting for new nitro! 
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| xbb wrote: | | Master_of_Puppets wrote: | I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver! |
You can apply it by yourself manually, works for me |
Do you mean sky2?
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| Master_of_Puppets wrote: | I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver! |
No I did not remove this :\ I use the same ethernet card myself (sk98lin) and it compiled in fine.
(I built kernel with universal config before releasing)
I will most definitely look into this, if I discover a problem, I will fix it for -no3.
Possibly the patch "drivers-net-sk98lin-possible-cleanups.patch" from -mm, could be the source of the problem, I will look into it.
You are referring to, Device Drivers - Net - 1000MBits - Marvell Yukion Gigabit <*>, right? Because I believe that is the sk98lin driver.
| arkaine wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | A big philosophy of no-sources, is to not use staircase (ck) in any releases. |
I'm going to search this in a second, but could you possibly stick in a link to some rant, article, or even write up reasons yourself. I'm actually very interested! |
Well, there are several reasons for this, I will list just a few.
1) This has always been part of no-sources, and 1 reason is to keep tradition
2) I find staircase to not offer a convincing performance increase, usually just a loss, and is not worth it, I am not aiming for servers
3) There have been a lot of problem with staircase, particulary on amd64 machines, that it is just awfully slow for no reason. I don't want patches that may work, or won't work at all, I want patches that DO work.
4) I've found the -mm patches to be more capable
5) Con's schedulars do not support reiser4 at all, or atleast not very well.
There are also good points to CK Patches
1) Con is probally one of the best at writing schedulars (I won't use them though)
2) Some CK Patches are really interesting and useful (ex. 1 GB lowmem Support - included in -no2)
3) CK Is more for server performance, than desktop performance
I felt no need for staircase, it is definitely more aimed toward server performance, and I am not attempting to run a server. -mm is very experimental and has tons of unstable patches, it is not necessarily optimized for speed, but there are a lot of nice patches from it.
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | Master_of_Puppets wrote: | I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver! |
No I did not remove this :\ I use the same ethernet card myself (sk98lin) and it compiled in fine.
(I built kernel with universal config before releasing)
I will most definitely look into this, if I discover a problem, I will fix it for -no3.
Possibly the patch "drivers-net-sk98lin-possible-cleanups.patch" from -mm, could be the source of the problem, I will look into it.
You are referring to, Device Drivers - Net - 1000MBits - Marvell Yukion Gigabit <*>, right? Because I believe that is the sk98lin driver. |
My problem looks like this: the sk98lin-Module that comes with the kernels never worked for me (skge as well as sk98lin compiled and loaded, but the card never appeared), I always had to compile the module using the sources from Syskonnect (from their website). In the 2.6.15-series-kernels I saw support for the "Syskonnect marvell yukon2", a module named sky2. I tried it out and it really worked for me
So I haven't tried the sk98lin from 2.6.15-no2, but I'll try it (as you say that works for you) and report.
Master
EDIT: Ok, I got the official one from Syskonnect to work after generating a patch which i applied then (I uploadet it here for you). But thanks for caring, anyway
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| Master_of_Puppets wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | Master_of_Puppets wrote: | I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver! |
No I did not remove this :\ I use the same ethernet card myself (sk98lin) and it compiled in fine.
(I built kernel with universal config before releasing)
I will most definitely look into this, if I discover a problem, I will fix it for -no3.
Possibly the patch "drivers-net-sk98lin-possible-cleanups.patch" from -mm, could be the source of the problem, I will look into it.
You are referring to, Device Drivers - Net - 1000MBits - Marvell Yukion Gigabit <*>, right? Because I believe that is the sk98lin driver. |
My problem looks like this: the sk98lin-Module that comes with the kernels never worked for me (skge as well as sk98lin compiled and loaded, but the card never appeared), I always had to compile the module using the sources from Syskonnect (from their website). In the 2.6.15-series-kernels I saw support for the "Syskonnect marvell yukon2", a module named sky2. I tried it out and it really worked for me
So I haven't tried the sk98lin from 2.6.15-no2, but I'll try it (as you say that works for you) and report.
Master
EDIT: Ok, I got the official one from Syskonnect to work after generating a patch which i applied then (I uploadet it here for you). But thanks for caring, anyway |
Can you post your error? I just built that fine, no problems.
I don't know what the problem could of been.
I'm sorry, but there is really not much I can assist you with, unless I see the error posted, and testing it myself I had no problem.
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Do not know the problem, just built my livecd's kernel, with 2.6.15-no2, which has well over 1800 things, including the sk98lin driver, and your syskonnect driver. (w/o that patch applied), possibly a malformed download somewhere?
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Socket Error : 10060
 
update: downloading...
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| arkaine wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | A big philosophy of no-sources, is to not use staircase (ck) in any releases. |
I'm going to search this in a second, but could you possibly stick in a link to some rant, article, or even write up reasons yourself. I'm actually very interested! |
Well, there are several reasons for this, I will list just a few.
1) This has always been part of no-sources, and 1 reason is to keep tradition
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Fair enough.
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2) I find staircase to not offer a convincing performance increase, usually just a loss, and is not worth it, I am not aiming for servers
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Benchmarks say otherwise.
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3) There have been a lot of problem with staircase, particulary on amd64 machines, that it is just awfully slow for no reason. I don't want patches that may work, or won't work at all, I want patches that DO work.
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Havn't heard of that happening recently, but hey, you could try reporting a bug to Con.
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4) I've found the -mm patches to be more capable
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Yes, they're much easier to throw together and tack on. Few clashes to deal with.
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5) Con's schedulars do not support reiser4 at all, or atleast not very well.
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There is nothing in CK that prevents Reiser4. Nothing. Con dislikes it, but doesnt prevent it working. There are occasionally very minor clashes between the patches, but they are often one line fixes for the patchset maintainer to deal with. If he's capable.
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There are also good points to CK Patches
1) Con is probally one of the best at writing schedulars (I won't use them though)
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You thought ArchCK was the best thing since sliced bread not long ago. But yeah, Con does an awesome job.
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2) Some CK Patches are really interesting and useful (ex. 1 GB lowmem Support - included in -no2)
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Uh, that's been dropped in favour of the new vanilla memory split option. You might be best to drop it too. There are patches to make vmware work.
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3) CK Is more for server performance, than desktop performance
I felt no need for staircase, it is definitely more aimed toward server performance, and I am not attempting to run a server. -mm is very experimental and has tons of unstable patches, it is not necessarily optimized for speed, but there are a lot of nice patches from it. |
First sentence on Con's webpage.
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These are patches designed to improve system responsiveness with specific emphasis on the desktop, but suitable to any workload.
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Can you see that specific emphasis on *desktop*?
Con has been working to improve *interactivity* and *responsiveness* on the *desktop*.
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*solved*
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| iphitus wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: |
2) I find staircase to not offer a convincing performance increase, usually just a loss, and is not worth it, I am not aiming for servers
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Benchmarks say otherwise.
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Iphitus probably means these benchmarks:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113154085224259&w=2 |
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1) This has always been part of no-sources, and 1 reason is to keep tradition
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Damn! you're right!
oh, and riding horses has been a tradition since antient ages.....man...gotta sell my car,
it disturbs my traditional view of the world.....
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ehm, sorry....
couldn't help answering these highly professional elaborations
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | Master_of_Puppets wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | Master_of_Puppets wrote: | I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver! |
No I did not remove this :\ I use the same ethernet card myself (sk98lin) and it compiled in fine.
(I built kernel with universal config before releasing)
I will most definitely look into this, if I discover a problem, I will fix it for -no3.
Possibly the patch "drivers-net-sk98lin-possible-cleanups.patch" from -mm, could be the source of the problem, I will look into it.
You are referring to, Device Drivers - Net - 1000MBits - Marvell Yukion Gigabit <*>, right? Because I believe that is the sk98lin driver. |
My problem looks like this: the sk98lin-Module that comes with the kernels never worked for me (skge as well as sk98lin compiled and loaded, but the card never appeared), I always had to compile the module using the sources from Syskonnect (from their website). In the 2.6.15-series-kernels I saw support for the "Syskonnect marvell yukon2", a module named sky2. I tried it out and it really worked for me
So I haven't tried the sk98lin from 2.6.15-no2, but I'll try it (as you say that works for you) and report.
Master
EDIT: Ok, I got the official one from Syskonnect to work after generating a patch which i applied then (I uploadet it here for you). But thanks for caring, anyway |
Can you post your error? I just built that fine, no problems.
I don't know what the problem could of been.
I'm sorry, but there is really not much I can assist you with, unless I see the error posted, and testing it myself I had no problem.
EDIT
Do not know the problem, just built my livecd's kernel, with 2.6.15-no2, which has well over 1800 things, including the sk98lin driver, and your syskonnect driver. (w/o that patch applied), possibly a malformed download somewhere? |
When you install the syskonnect driver, you can choose either to build the module directly or to generate a kernel patch. At first I tried to build the module directly (as I had done it every time), which failed (didn't see an error message, the script just told me that an error occurred).
But doesn't matter, maybe I did something wrong, could be...
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| Master_of_Puppets wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | Master_of_Puppets wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | Master_of_Puppets wrote: | I can't compile the sk98lin-module (for my Syskonnect Marvell yukon network card) against this kernel...
Did you remove the sky2-ethernet module? Because it's included in all the other 2.6.15-series-kernels I've tried, and my network card works with this driver! |
No I did not remove this :\ I use the same ethernet card myself (sk98lin) and it compiled in fine.
(I built kernel with universal config before releasing)
I will most definitely look into this, if I discover a problem, I will fix it for -no3.
Possibly the patch "drivers-net-sk98lin-possible-cleanups.patch" from -mm, could be the source of the problem, I will look into it.
You are referring to, Device Drivers - Net - 1000MBits - Marvell Yukion Gigabit <*>, right? Because I believe that is the sk98lin driver. |
My problem looks like this: the sk98lin-Module that comes with the kernels never worked for me (skge as well as sk98lin compiled and loaded, but the card never appeared), I always had to compile the module using the sources from Syskonnect (from their website). In the 2.6.15-series-kernels I saw support for the "Syskonnect marvell yukon2", a module named sky2. I tried it out and it really worked for me
So I haven't tried the sk98lin from 2.6.15-no2, but I'll try it (as you say that works for you) and report.
Master
EDIT: Ok, I got the official one from Syskonnect to work after generating a patch which i applied then (I uploadet it here for you). But thanks for caring, anyway |
Can you post your error? I just built that fine, no problems.
I don't know what the problem could of been.
I'm sorry, but there is really not much I can assist you with, unless I see the error posted, and testing it myself I had no problem.
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Do not know the problem, just built my livecd's kernel, with 2.6.15-no2, which has well over 1800 things, including the sk98lin driver, and your syskonnect driver. (w/o that patch applied), possibly a malformed download somewhere? |
When you install the syskonnect driver, you can choose either to build the module directly or to generate a kernel patch. At first I tried to build the module directly (as I had done it every time), which failed (didn't see an error message, the script just told me that an error occurred).
But doesn't matter, maybe I did something wrong, could be... |
Hmm, on my livecd's kernel it goes as a module, because it is a universal kernel, making it all built-in would be too slow.
Also, just an elaboration, when you say "scripts" are you referring to genkernel? I just want to make sure that I don't really support genkernel, it is good for livecd kernels and initrd's, but otherwise I just don't support it, it may be tuned to work best for gentoo-sources
Also, good luck using no-sources, and thanks for using it 
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2) I find staircase to not offer a convincing performance increase, usually just a loss, and is not worth it, I am not aiming for servers
Benchmarks say otherwise.
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Well, you could argue this, it may a well be better in performance now according to benchmarks, I want something to play nicely with the -mm patches I included ("speed isn't everything") , though personally, using CK I have not noticed convincing performance increase anyway.
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3) There have been a lot of problem with staircase, particulary on amd64 machines, that it is just awfully slow for no reason. I don't want patches that may work, or won't work at all, I want patches that DO work.
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Havn't heard of that happening recently, but hey, you could try reporting a bug to Con.
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Quite possibly I'm living in the past Maybe things like this have been fixed in newer upstream releases, though I have had someone tell me that they emerged ck-sources, and it was too slow, on a 64-bit installed gentoo machine (someone from my irc channel), it could of been the kernel setup, there are always tons of possibilities
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4) I've found the -mm patches to be more capable
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Yes, they're much easier to throw together and tack on. Few clashes to deal with.
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I don't think I'd say that, the -mm patches include a lot of experimental patches,and can break a lot of things if not careful, and if you use the latest mm patched kernel, you probally wont get anything (like squashfs,fbsplash,etc) to patch cleanly to the kernel, that is why I did not choose all of -mm.
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5) Con's schedulars do not support reiser4 at all, or atleast not very well.
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There is nothing in CK that prevents Reiser4. Nothing. Con dislikes it, but doesnt prevent it working. There are occasionally very minor clashes between the patches, but they are often one line fixes for the patchset maintainer to deal with. If he's capable. |
Possibly I was thinking of the past here too, I remember in the past hearing that they did not work with reiser4, I will look into this a little more
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There are also good points to CK Patches
1) Con is probally one of the best at writing schedulars (I won't use them though)
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You thought ArchCK was the best thing since sliced bread not long ago. But yeah, Con does an awesome job. |
Well, I didnt think it was that impressive , I liked the fact it was -ck with what I use, fbsplash, vesafb-tng, squashfs, etc, though my results have not been too promising with -ck recently (I've had problems with latest -ck and udev, my /dev would entirely clear out) and I can not question Con's ability to create scheds/patches
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2) Some CK Patches are really interesting and useful (ex. 1 GB lowmem Support - included in -no2)
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Uh, that's been dropped in favour of the new vanilla memory split option. You might be best to drop it too. There are patches to make vmware work. |
I will look into that I do not use vmware myself in linux, but I will possibly drop the patch.
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These are patches designed to improve system responsiveness with specific emphasis on the desktop, but suitable to any workload.
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Can you see that specific emphasis on *desktop*?
Con has been working to improve *interactivity* and *responsiveness* on the *desktop*.
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Hmm, joecool told me that even Con agrees, when he talks to him, that -ck is headed more toward servers, than it is for the desktop -> I take his word for it.
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1) This has always been part of no-sources, and 1 reason is to keep tradition
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Damn! you're right!
oh, and riding horses has been a tradition since antient ages.....man...gotta sell my car,
it disturbs my traditional view of the world.....
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ehm, sorry....
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Thankyou, that was very funny [/SARCASM] 
It is true, it has always been a tradition of no-sources, when I made the new releases of -no, I agreed with the theory to stay away from staircase in a patchset, and that is why I didnt name it like "conrad-sources" I kept no-sources, we have our philosophies, If I did not agree with them, I would not bring back this awesome patchset
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Hmm, on my livecd's kernel it goes as a module, because it is a universal kernel, making it all built-in would be too slow.
Also, just an elaboration, when you say "scripts" are you referring to genkernel? I just want to make sure that I don't really support genkernel, it is good for livecd kernels and initrd's, but otherwise I just don't support it, it may be tuned to work best for gentoo-sources
Also, good luck using no-sources, and thanks for using it
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With "script" i meant the installation-script of the driver-module
I never used genkernel, because I think it doesn't really make sense if you know your system and what to put into your kernel so that everything works (as it does for me now )
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I do intend for there to be -ck patches in here in the future and while I do not consider it a "philosophy" to exclude staircase from the patchset (actually if you check the past releases we've had plugsched which had staircase as an option), I do prefer to not use it. Past experiance and user response has shown it to run rather poor with most reiser4 desktop systems. This is more due to reiser4's CPU usage, AND NOT STAIRCASE. Con has told me in the past its not his business to cater the sched to reiser4. And i'm fine with that.
Nowadays things are more even, but I still prefer ingosched (I am not a zealot, I used to back nicksched in the past and used to put alot of time into keeping it running with our releases.)
The patchset will never apply on top of -ck, i feel there are plenty of -ck based patchset out there (-ckx, -archck, -cko, etc..) and we'll try to go for performance in other areas. I respect con's work, I've asked his advice and given and taken critisism and observations.
I didn't bother to read all of this thread, I got a little annoyed when I read iphitus's comments, I'm pretty sure this sums up most of the concerns. I look forward to sucessful releases in the future. I will mention that conrad is new to the patchset and I've not been around to address your concerns. I should hopefully take a more active part in the near future if other events calm down.
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I'd say: PMPNW! -> read: People Make Patchsets Not War!
You can always go on your own and make your own patchset!
If you don't like -no-sources, -nitro, etc... don't try to convert other people. Make your own patchset.
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To tell you the truth.. that was my original inspiration for starting this patchset. I used to use love-sources back in the day until the maintainers became sporadic and fallow took over and went a different path with it. I didn't like the way it went, so I created no-sources with the help of Jasonf. If you want our true philosophy, its pretty much the same as the old love-sources. That patchset may be dead (and its about time) but the community lives on.
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| joecool wrote: | I do intend for there to be -ck patches in here in the future and while I do not consider it a "philosophy" to exclude staircase from the patchset (actually if you check the past releases we've had plugsched which had staircase as an option), I do prefer to not use it. Past experiance and user response has shown it to run rather poor with most reiser4 desktop systems. This is more due to reiser4's CPU usage, AND NOT STAIRCASE. Con has told me in the past its not his business to cater the sched to reiser4. And i'm fine with that.
Nowadays things are more even, but I still prefer ingosched (I am not a zealot, I used to back nicksched in the past and used to put alot of time into keeping it running with our releases.)
The patchset will never apply on top of -ck, i feel there are plenty of -ck based patchset out there (-ckx, -archck, -cko, etc..) and we'll try to go for performance in other areas. I respect con's work, I've asked his advice and given and taken critisism and observations.
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There is no longer a cko, ArchCK has since replaced it. My point was not to promote CK and Staircase. It was to clear up the incorrect things you were saying about CK. I find it a bit disturbing that every reason you have to not use CK, is flawed.
Reiser4's CPU usage is irrelevant to Staircase, and it is irrelevant to the vanilla scheduler. Neither of them cater to reiser4. It is up to reiser4 to co-operate with the scheduler, and not vice-versa.
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I didn't bother to read all of this thread, I got a little annoyed when I read iphitus's comments, I'm pretty sure this sums up most of the concerns. I look forward to sucessful releases in the future. I will mention that conrad is new to the patchset and I've not been around to address your concerns. I should hopefully take a more active part in the near future if other events calm down.
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I was speaking to Con myself last night on IRC, and we had a good laugh at some of the things in that post. CK has never ever been a server oriented thing. I take Con's word that CK oriented to the *desktop*.
martin.k: I was not complaining about no. I was just clearing the flawed statements that were made by cheater. I do exactly what you say, and *I* maintain ArchCK, so there is at least one stable and reliable patchset out there.
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