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abhay
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| Your patch set used to come with an option to select 864 Hz under "Timer Frequency" but I can't see it anymore. Is it just me or has this option been removed? I loved this option. It helped my system to not crawl while running a big emerge in the background. |
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iphitus
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| Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| abhay wrote: | | Your patch set used to come with an option to select 864 Hz under "Timer Frequency" but I can't see it anymore. Is it just me or has this option been removed? I loved this option. It helped my system to not crawl while running a big emerge in the background. |
Try setting it to 1000.
The patch is here, although whether it works on 2.6.15, I havnt tried.
http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/2.6.14/2.6.14-ck9/patches/hz-extra_values.patch |
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abhay
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah well that is the obvious choice but as I mentioned earlier, the 864 value makes my system more responsive even under heavy load. I will try using this patch. Thanks  |
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mbar
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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I heard 864 / 250 Hz is evil...  |
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abhay
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| mbar wrote: | | I heard 864 / 250 Hz is evil... |
errm...but why? will i screw something on my system using 864? i know i am using an experimental kernel and should be ready to face breakages but still it would be nice to know i am not falling into a known bug or something. |
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RobertDavid
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Im very surprised, I tryed to use dynamic timer,, and now hawe my Athlon XP 1700+ 4degree C colder!! I use Athcool for some time and get the temerature to 44-46C (idlle),, now 40-41C with mp3 playing.. but dont know why, now when playing mp3 (ogg) it shows ~6% CPU usage!!! before with 2.6.14-ARCHCK7 ~0.3% and less....
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RobertDavid
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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so just pulled the timer to 250Hz and cpu usage during playing mp3 dropped back to 0.3% and less
still have 41C
I will compile this kernel on my notebook(P3 600) as fast as i can:)
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bollucks
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| RobertDavid wrote: | so just pulled the timer to 250Hz and cpu usage during playing mp3 dropped back to 0.3% and less
still have 41C
I will compile this kernel on my notebook(P3 600) as fast as i can:) |
The cpu usage reporting is BOGUS. The accuracy of cpu usage goes down the lower you set HZ to, with it under-reading more and more. Do NOT base your HZ decision on this figure; it is an accuracy phenomenon. The programs do NOT use less cpu. |
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RobertDavid
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Yes I undestand taht programs uses the same amount of CPU,, so I was surprised that in one setting xmms eats 400% more resources than normal....
But I see that is much more eficient the iddle time... kernel doesnt send useless cycles to cpu so often,,
The temperature is realy TRUE!!! normaly my CPU fan rotate during iddle ~1000rpm, now ~500rpm, and the overall system feels like little silent (means fan, I have all temperature controlled),,, I dont say its Hz's work but I think it is dynamic timer,,, I was used to have 52C and more when I had windowze year ago..
Now I have found that I have problem to boot with this kernel on my laptop, so after 2 hours recompiling and recompiling than I tryed to swich pararell boot to "no" in rc.conf, and than can smoothly boot:)
But have still problem with "shared memory"?!!? with new kernel synaptics touchpad doesnt work,, If I try run "syndaemon -d" It writes "Can not access shared memory! SHMconfig disabled?" I have SHMconfig enabled and even tryed disable it,, If I run old 2.6.14-ARCHCK7 kernel it works OK...
With the old kernel I dont need run any syndaemon etc. It works OK as is discrabed on gentoo-wiki.com
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bollucks
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Dynticks when working is designed to decrease your power usage and therefore will also drop your cpu temperatures. It works best at 1000Hz if you read the help in menuconfig. Sounds like it's working well for you. |
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iphitus
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: |
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If you have dynticks, dont waste time with hz, leave on 1000.
1000 for desktops, 100 for servers or some laptops. theoretically 100 would drop battery consumption, but it would also reduce interactivity which isnt a desired effect. Dont use 250, rather than having the best of 100 and 1000, it has the worst, no/negligable battery savings, poor interactivity.
864 is the theoretical ideal, but it may cause issues with some drivers. Hence, dont use that either.
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mbar
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| Now why dynticks aren't available for x86_64? |
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batistuta
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Iphitus, this was like magic. My system became a lot more responsive. I know that I have to thank Con for this, but I also wanna thank you for updating archck so quickly. Good job!  |
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iphitus
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| Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| mbar wrote: | | Now why dynticks aren't available for x86_64? |
Because they arent. |
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RobertDavid
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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So change back to 1000Hz,, I have never trust this,, but the powersaving realy pull me up of the chair,, I have never had CPU the same temperature as HDD 38C, Athlon XP Polomino....!! (I have 20C in my room) I couldnt trust this numbers, until I open the case, yes the heatsink is realy as warm as my hand... and 450rpm on fan while iddle
and the system is the same responsible as before...
mp3 palying in XMMS increase temp to 40C and 580rpm fan,,, nice, isnt?
End of that stupid fan sound during listening to music...
I would send my screenshot but dont know how, for those who not trust...
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aslocum
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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uh help please!
because i dont know that there was a ebuild for 2.6.15archck2.1 i "hacked" one for 2.6.14...install went fine, but was a ugly ebuild hack 
now i got the archck-sources-2.6.15_p2-r1.ebuild and put it in my /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/archck-sources/ directory and deleted the old one (also the files/ and Manifest...just to make sure everything went fine)
i now want to emerge this new ebuild but i cant!
| Code: | USE="-doc symlink" emerge archck-sources -av
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies visible(): invalid cat/pkg-v: sys-kernel/archck-sources-2.6.15_pr2-r1
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "archck-sources". |
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ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/archck-sources/archck-sources-2.6.15_pr2-r1.ebuild digest
!!! sys-kernel/archck-sources-2.6.15_pr2-r1 does not follow correct package syntax. |
| Code: | # Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: $
K_PREPATCHED="yes"
UNIPATCH_STRICTORDER="yes"
K_NOUSENAME="yes"
#K_WANT_GENPATCHES="base"
#K_GENPATCHES_VER="1"
ETYPE="sources"
inherit kernel-2
detect_version
# A few hacks to set ck version via _p instead of -r
MY_P=${P/_p*/}
MY_PR=${PR/r/-r}
MY_PR=${MY_PR/-r0/}
EXTRAVERSION=-archck${PV/*_p/}${MY_PR}
KV_FULL=${OKV}${EXTRAVERSION}
KV_CK=${KV_FULL/-r*/}
detect_version
IUSE=""
#IUSE="ck-plus"
#if use ck-plus; then
# CK_PATCH="patch-${KV_CK}+.bz2"
#else
CK_PATCH="patch-${KV_CK}.1.bz2"
#fi
UNIPATCH_LIST="${DISTDIR}/${CK_PATCH}"
DESCRIPTION="ArchCK is a derivation of the CK patchset that is taking a similar
path to the old CKO patchset. It aims to include a variety of popular features
and updates that have not currently made it to the vanilla kernel. Con Kolivas'
CK patchset is central to ArchCK. ArchCK also includes a few patches for the
Arch LiveCD Archie."
HOMEPAGE="http://iphitus.loudas.com/archck.php"
SRC_URI="${KERNEL_URI}
http://iphitus.loudas.com/arch/ck/2.6.15/${CK_PATCH}"
KEYWORDS="~x86 ~amd64 ~ppc64"
pkg_postinst() {
postinst_sources
ewarn "IMPORTANT:"
ewarn "This is a experimental kernel version, I'm not responsible for breaking your system"
ewarn "ALWAYS keep a second stable and bootable kernel apart in your boot manager"
# if use ck-plus; then
# ewarn "You have ck-plus enabled... this increases the possibility of"
# ewarn "your archck kernel being unstable."
# fi
}
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TGL
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| aslocum wrote: | | Code: | ebuild /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel/archck-sources/archck-sources-2.6.15_pr2-r1.ebuild digest
!!! sys-kernel/archck-sources-2.6.15_pr2-r1 does not follow correct package syntax. |
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Watch the r in .../archck-sources-2.6.15_pr2-r1.ebuild. It should read .../archck-sources-2.6.15_p2-r1.ebuild.
(I don't say that will be enough, i've not read your ebuild, but that's a start to have a valid version number...) |
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aslocum
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| Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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that WAS the fault thx you're my hero... that damn little misspelling 
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enito
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
any can give me a link with a patched vmware-config.pl for kernel 2.6.15ck2 , i read some one have made the patch, but dont know how patch the vmware..if any have patched..i thankfull a lot..
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morbid
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iphitus
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ptfd9100
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger683 wrote: | I provide a patch in newest nitro thread to revert back to 1G lowmem config instead of memsplit, that lets
vmware script work again
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How di I apply this patch?
Mike |
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Phlogiston
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| ptfd9100 wrote: | | Tiger683 wrote: | I provide a patch in newest nitro thread to revert back to 1G lowmem config instead of memsplit, that lets
vmware script work again
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How di I apply this patch?
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| Phlogiston wrote: | | Trevoke wrote: | So how do I apply the patch for the vmware modules?
I've never actually messed around with manual patching before |
As it looks like you should reverse that patch. So thats what you need to do:
| Code: | cd /usr/src/linux <-directory should point to the correct latest nitro kernel
patch -p1 --dry-run < /tmp/31_back_lowmem
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If there are no Failed messages you can apply it definitely with:
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patch -p1 < /tmp/31_back_lowmem
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Good luck
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