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ibook g4 12" which refresh value?

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Post by gettons » Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:54 am

Hi guys, I've just installed gentoo ppc on my ebook.
This is the last one model. that have radeon 9550 with 32MB.
I would know the refresh value of the screen, because of xorg.
I don't the vertical and horizontal refresh rate , but I know only it's 12" and the maximum resolution is 1024x748.

Someone have this one and can help me?


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Post by Fugee47 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:15 pm

i have the G4 with Radeon 9200 and 14` screen.
This is the monitor-section out of my xorg.conf:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
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Post by jedsen » Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:40 pm

I'm pretty sure most to all LCD'sare 60hz.

You might want to try 'xorgconfig', instead of configuring these options manually, you'll be presented with a list.
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Post by JoseJX » Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:33 pm

Even better, try Xorgautoconfig. It should set up X for you automatically on PPC.
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Post by gettons » Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:57 pm

Thanks guys, I've tried xorgautoconfig, but it asked me the refresh and vertical and horizontal sync , so I've put this message on forum.
I'll try the value of 60 Hz, but I don't know still now the vertical and horizontal sync

Thanks a lot for the moment...
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Post by Frelon » Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:29 pm

I think it does not matter, because LCD haven't got any vertical/horyzontal electrodes to refresh the screen.
On my 12" I have :

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Section "Modes"
	Identifier	"Modes0"

	# Generated
	# D: 75.002 MHz, H: 56.477 kHz, V: 70.071 Hz
	Modeline "1024x768" 75.002 1024 1048 1184 1328  768 771 777 806  -HSync -VSync
EndSection

http://stan.openmod.org
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Post by JoseJX » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:13 pm

Xorgautoconfig does *not* ask you for any values. You need to emerge Xorgautoconfig and use that instead of whatever you were doing before.
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Post by gettons » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:04 am

Thanks a lot guys, you're fantastic team!!!

Otherwise, anyone purchased the last 2005 model of ibook g4 with radeon 9550 onboard , 12" lcd and can post the .config file for kernel gentoo-sources 2.6.14-r5 and pbbuttonsd?
I would be much more happy about my hard work to configure gentoo on this ibook.


Thansk a lot.


THANKS TO EVERYBODY :wink:
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Post by ecatmur » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:21 am

I've got a September 2005 12" iBook -- not sure if that's yours but it's got to be fairly similar.

I've put my configs up at http://catmur.co.uk/~ed/ibook/ -- tell me if I've got anything wrong.
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Post by gettons » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:38 am

Oh it is !!


Thansk a lot ecatmur, now I check the differences in the config , and I can customize my kernel ...
Your own is gentoo-sources or vanilla ones?



THANKS A LOT.


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Post by ecatmur » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:27 pm

Using gentoo-sources.

The one thing I haven't got working yet is DRI on the Radeon 9550 -- I know it's possible, but I'm not messing around with Xorg snapshots and I don't want to try modular X until it's unmasked. I haven't got the external monitor working yet - hopefully the r300 driver should help with that.

I'm using the bcm43xx ebuild for wireless, but currently I can only associate once -- change network, or even go to sleep, and it fails to associate again. It's not too bad -- I just have to shut down when I take it anywhere.

Apparently the modem doesn't work. Not bothered.

I haven't tried bluetooth or the CD writer yet.

Apparently bootsplash doesn't work yet -- some sort of problem with klibc.

Everything else works great -- sleep, touchpad, ethernet, usb, firewire, hotkeys. For the touchpad I'm using appletouch in the kernel, synaptics in Xorg, and gpm with the evdev patch (to get corner and multi-finger mousebutton emulation).
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Post by ecatmur » Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:58 pm

Also: I haven't got the correct keymap working; I have a UK keyboard but the keysyms are in different places to the standard UK keyboard (e.g. the key to the left of Z has ` and ~ instead of \ and |). I haven't found a keymap that gives them the right keycodes but I'm not bothered, since my muscle memory is happier with the standard UK keysyms. (And the Apple UK keyboard doesn't have a # symbol -- kiss of death to a Python/bash hacker!) Confuses the heck out of anyone trying to use it, though... :twisted:

Most important fact: Fn+Backspace is Del. I'm still trying to work out if there's a key combination for Print Scrn/Sysrq.
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Post by gettons » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:00 am

hi again , I've tried Xorgautoconfig but it fails to bring up X server.
I've compled such modules these thing in kernel:
CONFIG_AGP=m
CONFIG_AGP_UNINORTH=m
CONFIG_DRM=m
# CONFIG_DRM_TDFX is not set
# CONFIG_DRM_R128 is not set
CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m
# CONFIG_DRM_MGA is not set
# CONFIG_DRM_SIS is not set
# CONFIG_DRM_VIA is not set
# CONFIG_DRM_SAVAGE is not set
# CONFIG_RAW_DRIVER is not set
and I 've load these modules before starting X

but
this is the log:

hostname: Host name lookup failure

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 ppc [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux local 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #1 Tue Jan 17 06:36:05 CET 2006 ppc
Build Date: 17 January 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jan 18 09:53:23 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"

Using vt 7
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.X.Org
for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.

XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"

after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.


this is my xorg.conf
# This file was generated by Xorgautoconfig v0.2.
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.Org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"

# ModulePath can be used to set a search path for the X server modules.
# The default path is shown here.

ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

# For X Font Server support, uncomment this and comment the other FontPaths
# Note that this is not required for most configurations
# FontPath "unix/:-1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ukr/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/util/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/encodings/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
# Load "dri"
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "fbdevhw"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
# Option "Composite" "Disable" # Experimental
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "blank time" "10" # 10 minutes
Option "standby time" "20"
Option "suspend time" "30"
Option "off time" "60"
### Uncomment this Server flag if X should not change resolutions.
### This is useful if mode changing crashes / corrupts the X server
# Option "DisableVidModeExtensions"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
# Change "XkbModel" to "macintosh_old" if you are using
# the deprecated adb keycodes.
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "it"
Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
### Uncomment this if your layout uses nodeadkeys
#Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
UseModes "Modes0"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-70
VertRefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"

# Generated
# D: 65.003 MHz, H: 48.365 kHz, V: 60.006 Hz
Modeline "1024x768" 65.003 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -HSync -VSync
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
### Available Driver options:
#Option "HWcursor" "true" # Use Hardware Cursor
#Option "NoAccel" "false" # Disable Hardware Acceleration
Option "UseFBDev" "true"
### See "man nv" for additional options
Driver "nv"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection
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Post by ecatmur » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:31 pm

You don't want to be using the nv driver. Use the radeon driver for now (until Gentoo xorg catches up with the r300 drivers).
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Post by gettons » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:31 pm

so, what shall I do, please?
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Post by ecatmur » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:38 pm

Change your "Device" section to use the radeon driver. There's plenty of iBook G4 xorg.confs out there.
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Post by JoseJX » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:52 pm

I have no idea why it picked nvidia for you, can you please give me the output of Xorgautoconfig --dump

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Post by gettons » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:36 pm

there is my
Xorgautoconfig --dump
Dumping Debugging Information:
Machine ID: PowerBook6,7

EDID Tag: APP2a9c
H-Min: 0 H-Max: 0 V-Min: 0 V-Max: 60
Card Dump:
Framebuffer Id: ATI Radeon NV
Framebuffer Type: 38
Framebuffer Depth: 16
boys..
what shall I do for this situation?





P.S. = sorry for not to paste the log
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Post by JoseJX » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:37 pm

You didn't paste anything.
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Post by gettons » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:51 pm

Guys, I did it!!!!!! :lol:


I change these values..

Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
### Available Driver options:
#Option "HWcursor" "true" # Use Hardware Cursor
#Option "NoAccel" "false" # Disable Hardware Acceleration
Option "UseFBDev" "true"
### See "man nv" for additional options
Driver "nv"
EndSection



in
Driver I change in "radeon" from "nv"

thansk to ecatmur :wink:


But now, I've this problem:
the trackpad seems to have several problem: when I touch it to turn the arrow left , or right , or up or down,
It returns always to central position, It's impossible to move all around the screen.
The trackpad have no problem in console, gpm is good.

I've heared in X there are some problems, so in may tutorial people guessed to use syanptic drivers ...



P.S. strange, If I use X trought an normal user the trackpad have no problem,, so my question have already an answer, because, such any other unix user, I will not use X from root
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Post by ecatmur » Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:55 pm

You want to use the synaptics touchpad driver. It's in monolithic X; you don't need to merge anything.

Take a look at my xorg.conf: http://catmur.co.uk/~ed/ibook/xorg.conf.
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Post by JoseJX » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:46 pm

gettons:

Can you test Xorgautoconfig-0.2.3 please? I just released a new version which should fix the nvidia/radeon mixup.

Thanks for pointing out the issue.
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Post by gettons » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:56 pm

yes, of course...
Now I have not my laptop here , but I'll test that tomorrow.
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Post by gettons » Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:11 am

Hello again, I told you my trackpad had some problem in X whitout using synaptics drivers.
So I 've added these lines to my xorg.conf as ecatmur told me about it


InputDevice "SynapticsTouchpad" "CorePointer" # in section "ServerLayout"


#and these in "InputDevice"


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "SynapticsTouchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
# Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/appletouch"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "LeftEdge" "50"
Option "RightEdge" "900" # max 950
Option "TopEdge" "30"
Option "BottomEdge" "304" # max 334
Option "FingerLow" "15"
Option "FingerHigh" "20"
Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
Option "MaxTapMove" "100"
Option "MaxDoubleTapTime" "180"
Option "ClickTime" "100"
Option "FastTaps" "0"
Option "VertScrollDelta" "30"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "30"
Option "EdgeMotionMinZ" "30"
Option "EdgeMotionMaxZ" "160"
Option "EdgeMotionMinSpeed" "1"
Option "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed" "400"
Option "EdgeMotionUseAlways" "false"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.5"
Option "MaxSpeed" "2.0"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.12"
Option "LockedDrags" "false"
Option "RTCornerButton" "0"
Option "RBCornerButton" "0"
Option "LTCornerButton" "0"
Option "LBCornerButton" "0"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "2"
Option "TapButton3" "3"
Option "CircularScrolling" "1"
Option "CircScrollDelta" "0.1"
Option "CircScrollTrigger" "1"
Option "PalmDetect" "false" # not supported
Option "CoastingSpeed" "1"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
EndSection

this is my final Xorg.conf

# This file was generated by Xorgautoconfig v0.2.
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.Org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "SynapticsTouchpad" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"

# ModulePath can be used to set a search path for the X server modules.
# The default path is shown here.

ModulePath "/usr/lib/modules"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

# For X Font Server support, uncomment this and comment the other FontPaths
# Note that this is not required for most configurations
# FontPath "unix/:-1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ukr/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/util/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/encodings/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
# Load "dri"
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "fbdevhw"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
# Option "Composite" "Disable" # Experimental
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "blank time" "10" # 10 minutes
Option "standby time" "20"
Option "suspend time" "30"
Option "off time" "60"
### Uncomment this Server flag if X should not change resolutions.
### This is useful if mode changing crashes / corrupts the X server
# Option "DisableVidModeExtensions"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
# Change "XkbModel" to "macintosh_old" if you are using
# the deprecated adb keycodes.
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "it"
Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
### Uncomment this if your layout uses nodeadkeys
#Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "SynapticsTouchpad"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
# Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/appletouch"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "LeftEdge" "50"
Option "RightEdge" "900" # max 950
Option "TopEdge" "30"
Option "BottomEdge" "304" # max 334
Option "FingerLow" "15"
Option "FingerHigh" "20"
Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
Option "MaxTapMove" "100"
Option "MaxDoubleTapTime" "180"
Option "ClickTime" "100"
Option "FastTaps" "0"
Option "VertScrollDelta" "30"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "30"
Option "EdgeMotionMinZ" "30"
Option "EdgeMotionMaxZ" "160"
Option "EdgeMotionMinSpeed" "1"
Option "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed" "400"
Option "EdgeMotionUseAlways" "false"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.5"
Option "MaxSpeed" "2.0"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.12"
Option "LockedDrags" "false"
Option "RTCornerButton" "0"
Option "RBCornerButton" "0"
Option "LTCornerButton" "0"
Option "LBCornerButton" "0"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "2"
Option "TapButton3" "3"
Option "CircularScrolling" "1"
Option "CircScrollDelta" "0.1"
Option "CircScrollTrigger" "1"
Option "PalmDetect" "false" # not supported
Option "CoastingSpeed" "1"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
UseModes "Modes0"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-70
VertRefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"

# Generated
# D: 65.003 MHz, H: 48.365 kHz, V: 60.006 Hz
Modeline "1024x768" 65.003 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -HSync -VSync
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
### Available Driver options:
#Option "HWcursor" "true" # Use Hardware Cursor
#Option "NoAccel" "false" # Disable Hardware Acceleration
Option "UseFBDev" "true"
### See "man nv" for additional options
Driver "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection


but I've this error when I launch
startx
hostname: Host name lookup failure

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 ppc [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux mactux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #1 Tue Jan 17 06:36:05 CET 2006 ppc
Build Date: 17 January 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Jan 19 10:02:02 2006
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"

Using vt 7
(EE) Failed to load module "synaptics" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) RADEON(0): MergedFB does not work with Option UseFBDev, MergedFB mode is disabled
Symbol drmGetClient from module /usr/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o is unresolved!
(EE) No Input driver matching `synaptics'
No core pointer

Fatal server error:
failed to initialize core devices

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.X.Org
for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.

XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"

after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.


I also tried to emerge synaptics , but the ebuild is masked, and I remember ecatmur told me I've not to merge any other packet.



Thanks a lot
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