2.5.65

Jeff Binder · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:31 am Post subject: 2.5.65

The latest development kernel is out now. I haven't seen an ebuild yet, but I couldn't wait, so I just grabbed a patch.

Man, it is fast! Ingo's interactive scheduler patch (the one mentioned in the gaming-sources thread) is merged in now, and it makes a major difference. Before I stuck with the stable tree because my flash card reader doesn't work with the 2.5 series, but this is worth it.

Also of note, there's now a GTK+ configurator, 'make gconfig'.
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pens · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:06 am Post subject:

sweet! i've been waiting for this for quite some times now...

ultraslacker · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:19 am Post subject:

I was playing around with 2.5.64 over the weekend and had no luck getting X to behave with nvidia. Maybe I'll give it another go.

frippz · Guru Joined: 22 Aug 2002 Posts: 460 Location: Sweden

Finally!! This will be fun to see!

charlieg · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:42 am Post subject:

klimg · n00b Joined: 21 Sep 2002 Posts: 55

Doesn't mount reiser and xfree doesn't work neither does the sis900 eth.Framebuffersupport for sis fails to compile.Looks like this is going to be a little project.

Jeff Binder · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject:

If you're using modules, remember that the modutils package no longer works with the 2.5 kernels. To be able to use modules, you need to install the module-init-tools package (yes, it's masked). If you don't do this all modules will fail to load.

You'll also have to re-emerge nvidia-kernel when you change your kernel. Preferably do that after you get module-init-tools. I'm using the 4191 nvidia drivers (pbuffers are broken in earlier versions), and I'm not sure if older versions work with 2.5.65. You can certainly try.
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Lovechild · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:32 pm Post subject:

Yay, 2.5.65-mm1 is out to, and now X starts...

And this baby is fast, but sadly the preloading hacks make mplayer die after a while (buhu)... but Evolution 1.3.1 comes up like a flash now, it's so damn fast.

silverter · Guru Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 491 Location: Ulm, DE

Lovechild

I can't seem to find the 2.5.65-mm1 sources in portage. Where did you get them from?

regards,
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zypher · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:15 pm Post subject:

Hmmm, I have the same problems with 2.5.65 as with all the 2.5.x series.
Sound in quake3 stutters.
Untils that's fixed I have to stay with 2.4.20-ck4 which is a good one, too.
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kableh · n00b Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 2

Hey guys,

Is there any special way to build 2.5 on Gentoo (ebuild?) or is it a roll-your-own kind of deal?

I'm working through Documentation/Changes right now and getting stuck on some of the prerequisites. For example, I need binutils 2.9.5.0.25 but my system reports 2.13.90.0.18. Also, module-init-tools is masked, but I cant figure out what in package.mask could be doing that.

Thanks in advance

Lovechild · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:28 pm Post subject:

paulisdead · Guru Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 510 Location: Seattle, WA

For those of you having nvidia driver problems, I hope this helps. For some reason, modprobe NVdriver, and insmod NVdriver, and putting it in modules.autoload, doesn't seem to work for me with 2.5.64-bk11/2.5.65. However,

insmod /lib/modules/2.5.65/video/NVdriver

works for me. My other modules seem to load OK through more normal ways. And yes, I have module-init-tools installed.

I've also found that 2.4.20-wolk-rc2 was more responsive on the destkop, ie Gnome drawers always fily open, fast menus, etc, even under a full load. Also Kazaa Lite through wine only eats up around 25-35% of my proc cycles, whereas in 2.5.65 it starts at 25% and eventually winds up around 90% or so. But my glxgears are about 150-200fps higher, and ut2003 seems to run a bit more smoothely.

zojas

module-init-tools has ~x86 in the KEYWORDS in the ebuild file. that's why it appears masked. either add

TheCoop · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:10 pm Post subject:

does nvidia driver 4192 work unpatched with the development kernels?
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kableh · n00b Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 2

Ug, yea, caught the binutils problem shortly after I posted, need... more... coffee...

Thanks for the help. Love this distro =)

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Carlos · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:28 pm Post subject:

sgaap · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 12:32 am Post subject:

paulisdead · Guru Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 510 Location: Seattle, WA

Didn't even think of that, I've just been using local.start to get the whole path in there.

Jeff Binder · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 4:00 am Post subject:

I've been checking everything out... one problem I've had was awful framerates in some games, for example Starcraft (under winex). The problem is the new interactive scheduling.

I can get good performance if I use the chrt program to run winex as an interactive process. You can get that program in the schedutils package here (not the one in portage):

http://www.tech9.net/rml/schedutils/

Then run the game as:

chrt -f 1 -- [the command to run the game]

There're some other types of scheduling you can use as well, but I haven't tried them yet. There's plenty to play with here

.

EDIT: I wasn't thinking there! Don't setuid chrt! That would allow any user to execute commands as root. :oops:

Any ideas on how to do this securely?
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Lovechild · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 5:30 am Post subject:

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Carlos · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:29 am Post subject:

Lovechild · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:51 am Post subject:

LWM2 is in (as I recall), but Linus and Alan didn't like EVMS so that is being rewritten to use the md and lwm interface so to work with 2.5, but it will not appear in the 2.5 kernel (nor in 2.6) - if it was to go in it would have to wait untill kernel 2.7.

www.kernelnewbies.org has a status list of all major changes in the kernel and when they have been included, or when they are scheduled to go in (some are pre 2.6 some are post 2.6).