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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

after I already specify where my home partition is, can I change that? if so how?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the reason for the boot partition? and why use the ext2 filesystem? Do I still need a boot partition if I have a program such as norton bootmagic?

What is the average size for a root partition?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

danmister wrote:
What is the reason for the boot partition? and why use the ext2 filesystem? Do I still need a boot partition if I have a program such as norton bootmagic?

What is the average size for a root partition?

Hi.

The boot partition allows you to have a separate partition with the data you need to boot your system. In the old days, it also allowed solving the problem of having the kernel in the first 1024 sectors. The use of ext2 is recommended because you don't need a journal for a filesystem that should be most of the time unmounted and that is rarely used - you only need to use it during the boot and to alter the grub.conf or to copy a new kernel. You don't need to have a boot parititon, but I advice you to have one.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it matter if I use the ext3 file system for the boot partition? Any negatives in using ext3 for boot?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does it matter if I use the ext3 file system for the boot partition? Any negatives in using ext3 for boot?

Well, basically the system is slower and will take more space. It really is a waste to use a journalled filesystem for a /boot partition. For a long time I used reiserfs, until I realized that I didn't gained anything from it and lost 32 or 64MB just for the journal.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I create a partition in ext2, ext2, and swap will windows see these partitions since they will be in a different file system? (Basically I dont want to mess up the locations for my windows files.)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

danmister wrote:
When I create a partition in ext2, ext2, and swap will windows see these partitions since they will be in a different file system? (Basically I dont want to mess up the locations for my windows files.)

I believe that unless you mark the partitions as hidden. they will appear in Windows. However, you won't be able to write to them.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so if I mark them as hidden those partitions will not be able to be seen in windows. will they be seen in linux?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I think they will.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

am I correct in making swap, root and home and boot partition's all logical?
Or should I make one (or more) primary?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you can create primary partitions, I would advice using one for /home. That way, you won't get into trouble if you happen to have a problem with your extended partition. However, you can make them all primary or logical at your will - as long as you don't have more than 4 primary partitions, of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. if I make the boot partition logical, does it have to be anywher specific? ( ex. the first/second/third partition on the first/second drive. ) I had read somewhere that if the boot is logical it should be made the first partition on the drive.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No it doesn't have to be the first, second, third or whatever - at least in a moderately recent system. You can use whatever partition to create the /boot partition. You'll just have to configure LILO or GRUB accordingly.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:26 am    Post subject: Good dual boot setup - WinXP, Ubuntu, Gentoo ??? Reply with quote

Hi,

I have two hard drives: hda for Windows XP, and hdb for Linux. Currently I have Ubuntu Breezy installed on hdb using the default partitioning scheme:

hdb1 ext3 74,818 MB boot
hdb2 extended 1,475 MB
hdb5 linux-swap 1,475 MB

I want to try for the umpteenth time to install Gentoo on hdb but I'm not sure how to take space from hdb1 without destroying my Ubuntu setup. So far I haven't had any luck installing Gentoo even without Ubuntu on board, but I don't want to be without a linux system at all while I mess around with Gentoo. So I want to take maybe 40 GB from hdb1 and use it to setup Gentoo.

The idea is to have the choice of booting up Ubuntu, Gentoo, or XP using Grub. If I can get Gentoo running, and if it proves superior to me, I'll 86 Ubuntu and go with Gentoo. I like Ubuntu a lot but I get frustrated with having to wait months for up-to-date software. But that's another story.

So my question is how do I reconfigure hdb without starting from scratch ?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Greg.

The first thing you'll want to do, is to post the output of
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# fdisk -l /dev/hdb
# df -h

under you ubuntu system. I'm asking, because from your post it seems your second disk has 1.5GB wihch is small for Gentoo and clearly not enough for both Gentoo and Ubuntu.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, no. My hdb is 80 GB total. I took 30 GB from hdb1 and set it aside for gentoo. So that part of the project is resolved. Now I just need to figure out how to "successfully" install gentoo on that 30 GB partition. I'm at the moment trying to get a network connection going. It's being difficult.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my fdisk output:

Disk /dev/hdb: 80.0 GB, 80000000000 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9726 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 * 1 5713 45889641 83 Linux
/dev/hdb2 9539 9726 1510110 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdb5 9539 9726 1510078+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris


I resized hdb1 to about 44GB and set aside about 30GB for setting up Gentoo. I don't want or need any fancy partitioning scheme. I really just want to get Gentoo up and running so I can check it out and compare it to my Ubuntu setup. If I really like it better I can always reinstall it using a different partion strategy down the road, sans Ubuntu.

So what is the absolute basic partion scheme to get Gentoo up and running ? I figure I can use the existing swap, correct ? Do I need a Gentoo boot partition ? Or, for instance, can I just put everything in an hdb3 partition ? I'm a complete Linux moron, so give me the moron's guide please. :) The 30GB's set aside are unused, unformatted territory. How to proceed without screwing up my existing Ubuntu setup ??

Thanks for all!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and a happy new years to everyone.

I just found out that my hard drive is an SCSI device. Is this better or worse than it being IDE?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: partitioning problem plz help [SOLVED] Reply with quote

hi all and happy new year :D

i have recently aquired a new asus a6k laptop and was wanting to install gentoo(amd64) as a second os
the problem i am having is with partitioning the drive. the drive is partitioned as follows

the total usable space is 56gig
2gig hidden recovery partition (which i would like to keep if possible)
10gig primary ntfs partition with winxp installed on it
i want to partition 10gig for boot, swap, / and maybe a /home
and the left over i wanted to use as a shared partition for both os's
also i think it would be cool if the swap drive could be used by both os's

any advice on how to go about doing this or maybe a better scheme to achive this sort of system would be greatly appreciated :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might check out [ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Swap-Space.html ] for swap sharing. It's kinda old, but it might do the trick.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for ur reply liber8ate from what ive read that is something i do after the install so i will leave it till then


so this is what ive done so far
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hda1     2gig             hidden w95 fat32
hda2 *   10gig            ntfs
hda3     64m              /boot
hda4     rest of space    extended
hda5     1gig             swap
hda6     10gig            /
hda7     rest of space    w95 fat32

all i have done is create the partition table i have not formatted any yet. Will this be ok or is there a better way?
Thanks again :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you could do the maximize even more, is to put your /home directory on the shared partition (the one for both windows and gentoo).
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hda1     2gig             hidden w95 fat32
hda2 *   10gig            ntfs
hda3     1gig              swap
hda4     64m              /boot
hda5     10gig            /
hda6     rest of space    w95 fat32 (mounted in /home in linux, and mounted within 'My Documents' in windows)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merged the last four posts with this topic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking that to liber8ate but wasnt sure u could do that and went ahead with the first plan. but i got it all installed and working with the shared drive and dual boot so im relativly happy. after a few hours of trying to us the eth0 thinking it was the only network to realize that it put firewire on eth0 and i should have been using eth1 :oops:
now i just have to figure out all the drivers. anyway thanks for ur help :wink:
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What language is this gentoo writting and where can I get a copy




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