CONRAD Install Guide 0.7.5 - (__DEPRECATED__)

seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

last nite i was trying to emerge 2.13.1 of gnome, and for whatever reason cairo kept breaking, i know it wasnt gcc 4.0.2 because i emerged 3.4.4 and it still borked, wasnt use flags or cflags so i have no idea what it was, cairo kept saying "Error : symbol '_cairo_pixman_composie' already defined". so im trying out version 0.6.0 of lucky, and if all else fails im going to have to build a stage 1 with 3.4.4 because i cant keep reinstalling gentoo every other day =/. i was also wondering if their would be a way for the script to ask all the questions about your system before anything was excecuted, that way i wouldnt have to babysit my computer for 12 hours, kinda a pain in the butt to have the system hang at "do you want to emerge X?" its a waste of time..

seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

well great.................................................. i tried lucky 0.6.0 and got to the point where i choose to continue on to part 2 and it crashes how advanced.... im going to try again then im giving up for bob p's stage 1/3 method because i dont have time for this...

seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

guess i got lucky.... i wish the error messages were more clear.... it just crashes and says exit code 0? anyways im at part3 of the lucky script and its doing emerge --sync

cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1558

The cairo problem is known, maybe submit it to bugs.gentoo.org? i cant do it in the links text browser, I need a javascript browser.
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You don't have to have time for this...

Lucky is for testing, as far as I'm concerned there are still bugs in it, the version you have probally will quit at VIM - as that is a bug, being fixed by me right now - i'm trying to build cairo-1.0.2 manually and see if it builds, if so I will emerge --onlydeps cairo, and have it build cairo 1.0.2 manually, then inject or add it to package.provided (after xorg-x11 is setup)
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Conrad is still a very young set of projects... Lucky hasn't even been released yet, and was uploaded for testing purposes only...

Conrad is NOT all about the instability and gcc 4.0.2/reiser4 (though that is how it started)

I will let you know, once the lucky scripts work - There will be a few versions (lucky-conrad.sh - what your testing now, lucky-stable.sh - will use stable x86 branch of portage, do a stage3 installation, and customize slightly/rebuild the system, lucky-unstable.sh - the same thing as lucky-stable, except uses the ~x86 branch with gcc 3.4.x, glibc-2.3.6, and binutils-2.16.1)

Because not everyone wants a hardcore system, they want a rock, and I decided to make multiple versions to share with everyone who wants to install gentoo.
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And the conrad guide is just telling you how to get a running system with gcc 4.0, and other good stuff

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As I said, report cairo bug to bugs.gentoo.org - I'm trying to build it manually after I emerge its dependencies to see if its a problem with the ebuild or one of the patches...maybe Also theres a gcc 4.0 patch somewhere for it, and I'm missing it.
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seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

i must apologize, when i wrote that post i was extremelyfrustrated, and i understand this is very beta and the reason i (should) be using it is to speed up future development. and the bug with cairo has been fixed their is a 1.0.2-r1 ebuild on https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113538 i just dont know why nothing showed up when i was searching around for it. anways ill let you know what happens with this install. also what are the steps after it asks to install vim? is that before or after it asks about installing X? im just curious as i want to know if i have to download the overlay for xorg 6.9_pre or not.

bountykiller · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

you SHOULDNT use O3 in gcc 4 best sticking with -O2 -march-yourarch -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe

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seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

well ill let you know how it runs. im going to download the patches and the new ebuild and put it in my overlay until its in portage. then if i can actually get everything to compile im going to make a stage4 tarball with gcc 4.0.2-r1 glibc 2.3.90*.x binutils 2.16.91.0.4 with gnome 2.13.1. if i can get it all to run ill be happy.

RobNyc · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject:

I Must use a seperate /boot if I use reiser4?
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RobNyc · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject:

Styles · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 04 Jun 2002 Posts: 82

Is the ebuild command in 10.3 of the howto missing a command?

cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1558

Styles · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 04 Jun 2002 Posts: 82

also I think your project would benifit a wiki for the howto

if you need help or anything let me know

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Eric

seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

im in the process of finishing my install of the pre beta version of lucky i had the vim error but it wasnt a big deal, from their i setup my overlay with nitro-sources nxtsy's glibc,ixnay's xorg 6.9 pre and break my gentoo. im not going to test gcc 410 until its atleast ~x86 right now im finishing my emerge of gnome 2.13.1 ill keep you updated

RobNyc · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject:

How is everybody liking nitro sources?
I think its the fastest 1 of all what do u guys think?
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seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

anyNiXwilldo · Apprentice Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 176 Location: US

Ok, I just installed Conrad, although I used neither the live CD nor the scripts. I installed via "chroot" from my main Gentoo Jackass! (Thanks Bob P!) installation onto a separate partition on my hard drive. Actually, I had an existing Gentoo Jackass! install on that partition and simply upgraded Jackass! to Conrad via chroot. I first uninstalled all desktops and unnecessary apps to get a very slimmed down Jackass! Next, I used "emerge depclean -p" to slim the Jackass! install down further. I used the following CFLAGS, which are the same used for Jackass! except -O3 was changed to -O2. (Python would not build with -O3 on Conrad with my method):

CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -pipe"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -O2"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fweb"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -frename-registers"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fforce-addr"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -momit-leaf-frame-pointer"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fomit-frame-pointer"
CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -ftracer"
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CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -fvisibility-inlines-hidden"

I rebuilt the toolchain twice, then "emerge -e world." After that, I emerged kdebase-startkde, which pulled in the Xorg overlay previously mentioned here, as well as qt and a tiny KDE 3.5 environment. Oh, the nvidia drivers built and work flawlessly with this method as well. I can't yet say I have noticed a speed increase. Once I have finished building KDE, I will have to prelink the system in order to compare Conrad speed-wise it to my present Jackass! system.

This method of install went off without any hitches. Don't know if the CFLAGS are appropriate for gcc 4.02 but the apps built with those flags regardless.

OOPS! Forgot to mention, I used gentoo-sources for the kernel. I have no desire for reiser4 at this time, so nitro really wasn't necessary for my needs.
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RobNyc · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:14 am Post subject:

Well here's what I got to say..

os[Linux 2.6.14-nitro2 i686] distro[Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre11] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.00GHz] mem[Physical : 883MB, 79.2% free] disk[Total : 90.82GB, 85.70% Free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]] sound[ICH4 - Intel ICH5]

my kde 3.5 is actually lagging for some reason. I've ran kde 3.5 beta / rc1 in frugalware and kanotix and it was hell fast. Sure my applications open fast , but theres something wrong with this you know "cheater" ..

Cheater I was also having problems with /etc/init.d/ while booting up. i had to take out the vesafb=off line cuz it was giving me real bad errors.
i dont know, if by the end of this month i dont stop getting errors i might just go back to kororaa or just go with a less problem distro :-X

Well.. let me see what else .. hmm i'll talk to u in the chat

oh yea as you see .. i have 1024mb of ram not 883

and i noticed, conrad doesn't create no xf86config or xorg.conf .. it just goes but it gives me a bad screen-resolution
so i had to use phaeronix's X . cuz pclos one was bad on gentoo
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seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

im having a problem with emerging vte, so im 8 packages away from getting gnome running luckly i got xfce to merge so i can wait until i can fix vte it MAY be a local problem but i put a bug report on bugzilla anyways i get no error when trying to emerge vte so its hard to solve. heres my output

x11-libs/vte-0.11.15-r1

cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1558

seren · Guru Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 448 Location: Wisconsin

i am a very lucky guy because i have two systems at my disposal so im going to try rc2 of the scripts right now, the only reason is because of the moduar xorg version included. when installing vte i was getting an error regarding xft2 so ill let you know how it works out. also i was wondering if it asks all the questions before doing anything, im my opinion this would be the easiest way for an install. answer 10 or so questions go to sleep, wake up go to sleep

and wake up again and hope to wake to your system booted and running.

cheater1034 · Veteran Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 1558