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| enderandrew wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | enderandrew wrote: | | I saw that GCC recommend no LDFLAGS, but in the GCC 4 and 4.1 beta threads, several people have commented that they rebuilt their entire system with GCC 4.x with LDFLAGS with no problems. |
really? On the GCC 4.0 testing tips it says NO LDFLAGS, in capital  so that made me not want to try it  |
I saw the same thing, but nxsty and a few others swear they've had no problems. |
Well, I'll stay on the safe side without them i don't know if they'll give you a performance loss or gain - I'm going with the book
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | rsulli55 wrote: | | Hi, I'm trying to install with the Conrad livecd, but it does not have the right module for my ethernet card. I need module forcedeth, but when I do modprobe forcedeth, it says FATAL:Module not found. Is there a way I can get it? Could I move over the module from the Gentoo live cd to the Conrad one and reburn the iso? Or am I just out of luck? Thanks for any help. |
Hello, forcedeth - I will look into that for Conrad livecd 0.2 I am working on it now, nearly complete
To assure I get the right driver on the kernel, do you know the manufactuer of the card? I'm looking for it, every driver in 100 MB, 1000MB, and 10000M is a module
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Ok, thanks  . The motherboard is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138264. |
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | rsulli55 wrote: | | Hi, I'm trying to install with the Conrad livecd, but it does not have the right module for my ethernet card. I need module forcedeth, but when I do modprobe forcedeth, it says FATAL:Module not found. Is there a way I can get it? Could I move over the module from the Gentoo live cd to the Conrad one and reburn the iso? Or am I just out of luck? Thanks for any help. |
Hello, forcedeth - I will look into that for Conrad livecd 0.2 I am working on it now, nearly complete
To assure I get the right driver on the kernel, do you know the manufactuer of the card? I'm looking for it, every driver in 100 MB, 1000MB, and 10000M is a module
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Ok, thanks . The motherboard is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138264. |
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That would be Realtek 8201BL PHY.
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| enderandrew wrote: | | I saw that GCC recommend no LDFLAGS, but in the GCC 4 and 4.1 beta threads, several people have commented that they rebuilt their entire system with GCC 4.x with LDFLAGS with no problems. |
LDFLAGS are just as safe/dangerous with gcc4x as with any gcc version since they effect the linker which is a part of binutils. If you don't overdo it you should be safe. |
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| rsulli55 wrote: | | Any chance for livecd 0.2 today? |
I hope I'm working very hard on it
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | rsulli55 wrote: | | Any chance for livecd 0.2 today? |
I hope I'm working very hard on it |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject: Manual Installation/Ver: 0.6.0 |
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Hello,
The latest:
We have upgraded the guide to 0.6.0 | It is not completely manual and the bash scripts of the guide are retired.
as LiveCD 0.2 is nearing completion, So is an excellent set of bash scripts (way more advanced) that do everything for you to install (basically, conrad-based) They allow so much more than reiser4,nitro-sources, etc. The scripts allow many options
They include 2 scripts, they run back-to-back.
If you are upset the bash scripts are no longer used, wait for "Lucky"
The easiest to use and most complete scripts for install gentoo (conrad-method)
EDIT: LIVECD 0.2 DONE!
Uploading... Need a new mirror 
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To upgrade to the newest version of conrad, the only difference is the newest version of binutils. When I updating my package.unmask, will I need to rebuild my world to get the benefit of the new binutils?
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Vipernicus, Just upgrade binutils and run binutils-config 2
You dont have to rebuild the world, or even upgrade binutils, 2.16.1 is good enough
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LiveCD 0.2 RELEASED
Stay tuned for 0.2.1 uploading now
I forgot to include distcc fixed and uploading in 0.2.1
anyway, RELEASE INFO:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-405729.html
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| cheater1034 wrote: | Vipernicus, Just upgrade binutils and run binutils-config 2
You dont have to rebuild the world, or even upgrade binutils, 2.16.1 is good enough |
I realize that, but I wanted the full benefit of the new binutils, I would need to rebuild world, correct?
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| vipernicus wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | Vipernicus, Just upgrade binutils and run binutils-config 2
You dont have to rebuild the world, or even upgrade binutils, 2.16.1 is good enough |
I realize that, but I wanted the full benefit of the new binutils, I would need to rebuild world, correct? |
technicaly yes - But it's a long rebuild of the world, it may make compiling more efficient with gcc 4.0.2, but who am I 
SIDENOTE:
LiveCD 0.2.1 Released! (Only difference from 0.2 is DISTCC)
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Cheater.. I got an error with grub. I copy it and close the term but now is gone =\
So when you get this please ssh back into my pc u know the stuff and see for yourself.
I had finish doing kde, and saying yes to when it said gdm lol (i know it means kdm) and then grub asked me hda or sda..
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| im trying out the LUCKY scripts, so far i have gotten to extraction of portage, somereason i couldnt format /boot, had to do it manualy. also i had to do this from conrad cd 0.1 as .2.2 wont boot. i also noticed that the timezone and date should be set before dowloading and extracting portage/stage3 shouldnt it? noticed also that theirs no step to set timezone and date in the guide hard to keep a stable system when the time is set wrong. |
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I just had a look at your guide, since I'm rebuilding my system.
When it is really a good one, i've got one question:
wouldn't be better to do a stage1 istallation instead of a stage3 one?
I think that creating the package.unmask/keywords/... files earlier and doing a bootstrap.sh can do things easier and save some time for the installation, no? (Currently, i've recompiled glibc gcc-config and co, and i'm running 'emerge -e system' for the first time but already with gcc-4.0.2.)
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Actually, I was thinking of stage1 for the longest time - The problem was it's been such a long time since I've done a stage1 installation (2004.0 days) and since they removed it from the handbook I havent really considered it as much.
It is a great suggestion, I am installing gentoo, testing "Lucky" right now - I will try a stage1 and see how it works
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Coooooooolllllllllll 
But I'm having a littke prob: python-2.4.2 don't want to compile. So I try to emerge the system package by package.
Hope for you you won't have the same problem.
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| bountykiller wrote: | Coooooooolllllllllll
But I'm having a littke prob: python-2.4.2 don't want to compile. So I try to emerge the system package by package.
Hope for you you won't have the same problem. |
Is this using stage1?
Python-2.4* compiles fine here.
Also, looks like stage1 wont be used, in the LiveCD while testing stuff (I'm osless, tommorrow comes the final "Lucky" Test!)
I tried stage1, edited everything needed, then ran bootstrap and it wasnt compiling what I wanted, (binutils-2.15 (2.16.90* was set), glibc-2.3.6 (2.3.90* was set), gcc-3.3.6 (4.0.2-r1 was set)_
The odd thing is, emerge -a binutils glibc gcc, showed the versions I wanted? - Stage3 works fine on everything, and the handbook says stage1/2 are no longer explained, but you can rebuild a stage3 to make it optimized
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I had the same problem yesterday. emerge -p was showing the correct versions, but they didn't install, and I did several emerge sync's.
Still, it kept emerging older versions.
I went into the #conrad chat room to ask about it, and braniac asked to ssh into my machine and reinstall from scratch, testing out the Lucky scripts. I said okay. One thing I noted is that xorg segfaulted as he was installing. Furthermore, it was installing xorg 6.8
Shouldn't Lucky install the 6.9 overlay?
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Does anyone know how to get ahold of Brainiac of Lucky fame?
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| enderandrew wrote: | I had the same problem yesterday. emerge -p was showing the correct versions, but they didn't install, and I did several emerge sync's.
Still, it kept emerging older versions.
I went into the #conrad chat room to ask about it, and braniac asked to ssh into my machine and reinstall from scratch, testing out the Lucky scripts. I said okay. One thing I noted is that xorg segfaulted as he was installing. Furthermore, it was installing xorg 6.8
Shouldn't Lucky install the 6.9 overlay? |
This was a problem with bootstrap.sh on a stage1, doing this guide won't give you the problem
And the "lucky" scripts do install 6.9_rc/cvs - I don't know what was going on there.
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Well, he ran the lucky script and I had the same problem.
gcc-config 6 did nothing, and emerge -p was showing gcc 4.0.2, but it emerged gcc 3 regardless.
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| i just tried the lucky scripts and had no problems except for the problem i stated about /boot not getting formated correctly another thing i didnt like though was it compiling the kernel for me with the default config instead of asking if i wanted to use genkernel, btw i hate genkernel, too bloated, but thats my tastes, compiling a kernel isnt for everyone and you must have a good understanding of whats under the hood of your computer. otherwise the script did everything i could ask, im gonna hack away at it tonite. |
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| seren wrote: | | i just tried the lucky scripts and had no problems except for the problem i stated about /boot not getting formated correctly another thing i didnt like though was it compiling the kernel for me with the default config instead of asking if i wanted to use genkernel, btw i hate genkernel, too bloated, but thats my tastes, compiling a kernel isnt for everyone and you must have a good understanding of whats under the hood of your computer. otherwise the script did everything i could ask, im gonna hack away at it tonite. |
Seren, I understand, it builds with genkernel because it is universal, and will work on all systems - You can compile your own kernel when the script is finished.
The scripts have had some MAJOR advancements - first of all, it's only 1 script, theres tons of more features, color binary built.
Hacking away at it is not possible unless you have the src and the build script, PM me or get on IRC I will message them to you.
Anyway, for the latest lucky script, check.
hodclan.net/lucky.sh
You and anyone else are free to test it It has got to be the most advanced bash script for installing gentoo out there
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