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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:23 am Post subject: |
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@uxbod
first of all:
NEVER USE THE NVIDIA INSTALLER!
NEVER!
NEVER EVER!
After we have setz that straight - use the latest gentoo kernel (13-r5) or the latest vanilla kernel (2.6.14) and the bug is fixed.
The latest nvidia-kernel ebuild (7676-r1) should also incorporate some of the patches.
Again: use one of the kernels or the ebuilds and never the installer. This will bork your system in a very unpleasant and hard to fix way. Others running into their doom is no reason to follow them. _________________
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coco-loco Apprentice


Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 249
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: |
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I encounter that problem since more than one year... with all the different kernels and nvidia drivers that I had installed during all this time.
What I have discovered, having the system monitor open, is that a few seconds before the lockup, the use of memory turns 100% (sys, nice and user). As someone told before, it happens always with the same packages (mySQL, KDE, kdedevelop, etc.).
I does not seem to be 64bit related since I run a dual pentium system.
My resolution for the problem:
- stopping window manager with /etc/init.d/xdm stop
- emerge whatever huge packages
- starting window manager again /etc/init.d/xdm start
That way, I never crashed the system again.
IMHO it must have something to do with the memory management while running the X-server, probably related to the glx drivers - my old PIII machine I use for testing purposes with an i810 built in graphics chip doesn't lockup at all. |
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coco-loco Apprentice


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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Seems like if I got the solution!
My thought was basically that there must be a problem with the memory management (as I wrote in my last post). I tried to find out what differences are on these two machines... and I found one that got my attention: on the old PIII test box, I have 256 MB ram and a 512 MB swap, while on my main box I have 512 MB ram and a 124 MB swap. I did this in order to avoid too much swapping, to speed up the machine. Usually, the memory used in 'normal mode' is around 200 MB, so this solution works fine.
I grabbed an old 2 GB scsi disk that I had left from an old server that is out of order and put it into the box. I mounted it as a 2 GB swap drive (insane, I know!) and compiled mysql in graphic mode while working on it (surfed on firefox, Evolution was open and writing some text in Ooo.writer). It used to lock-up the machine, but this time everything worked fine. At several stages of the compilation, the machine seemed to be hardly tortured, and the old scsi disk worked a lot. Checking the use of the swap space showed that sometimes there are over 400 MB swap-space used!!!
This explains somehow the lockups I think. Anyways... this should not happen IMHO, I always thought that there might be some function that stops such processes before the memory overflow... have I missed something? |
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dom_cyrus Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 102
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| energyman76b wrote: | @uxbod
first of all:
NEVER USE THE NVIDIA INSTALLER!
NEVER!
NEVER EVER!
After we have setz that straight - use the latest gentoo kernel (13-r5) or the latest vanilla kernel (2.6.14) and the bug is fixed.
The latest nvidia-kernel ebuild (7676-r1) should also incorporate some of the patches.
Again: use one of the kernels or the ebuilds and never the installer. This will bork your system in a very unpleasant and hard to fix way. Others running into their doom is no reason to follow them. |
yeah there are maybe some problems. Libs that are not linked correctly and so on, but it was not so hard to fix it and also to return to the nvidia-kernel ebuild. So I think if someone can handle linking some libs its possible to use the nvidia installer... But for me it was just for a few days, until vanilla 2.6.14 arrived. |
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energyman76b Advocate


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2009 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| dom_cyrus wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | @uxbod
first of all:
NEVER USE THE NVIDIA INSTALLER!
NEVER!
NEVER EVER!
After we have setz that straight - use the latest gentoo kernel (13-r5) or the latest vanilla kernel (2.6.14) and the bug is fixed.
The latest nvidia-kernel ebuild (7676-r1) should also incorporate some of the patches.
Again: use one of the kernels or the ebuilds and never the installer. This will bork your system in a very unpleasant and hard to fix way. Others running into their doom is no reason to follow them. |
yeah there are maybe some problems. Libs that are not linked correctly and so on, but it was not so hard to fix it and also to return to the nvidia-kernel ebuild. So I think if someone can handle linking some libs its possible to use the nvidia installer... But for me it was just for a few days, until vanilla 2.6.14 arrived. |
the libs are the smallest problem. The real problems are the tenth of 'randomly' scattered files, you have to find and delete. Or you'll experience some funny crap, when you update the drivers. _________________
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...because pro-lifers (especially the catholic variety) are sick, depraved, satanic ....
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...'people' - had to clean it up to not be offensive...
"The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia." |
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