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| What is your favorite Gentoo installation method? |
| stage1 install by Handbook |
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30% |
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| stage2 install by Handbook |
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4% |
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| stage3 install by Handbook |
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29% |
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| Official Gentoo Installer |
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| The Developers Method - Stage1 and NPTL |
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9% |
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| Stage 1/3 Installation by Bob P |
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| Jackass! |
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6% |
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| Binary Install - Kororaa |
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1% |
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| GLIS: Gentoo Linux Install Script |
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0% |
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| My own, hand-written, great bash script ;) |
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3% |
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Sir No Apprentice


Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 159 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: What is your favorite Gentoo installation method? |
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I've been using Gentoo for over two years now. During that time I've used several installation methods. It seems to me that the method I was using was also changing - according to the amount of my knowledge over Gentoo's inner workings.
So I just wanted to ask you: what is your favorite method of installing Gentoo? _________________ The geeks | Recommended Packages fOr Desktop & Server | Read BBCode Guide! |
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kimchi_sg Veteran


Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 2915 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: |
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vanilla stage 1. _________________ Murphy's Law of Gentoo installation: If a compile can fail, it will.
MacGillicuddy's Corollary: At the most inopportune time.
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ben_zarges n00b

Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 23 Location: /dev/urandom
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| same here. |
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loki99 Veteran


Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 2053 Location: Vienna, €urope
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Jackass! at the moment.
The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported! |
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cp_tar Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 94 Location: /home
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| loki99 wrote: | Jackass! at the moment.
The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported! | Never heard of it... should I have? _________________ Do not feed the elephant. |
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Headrush Veteran


Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 5580 Location: Bizarro World
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Have never used or tried anything but stage1 install by Handbook.
It's always worked with no problems on several machines. _________________ Mac OS X 10.4.8 (Gentoo in Parallels now)
AMD64 Opteron Dual Core 4400+, 2x1GB DDR400, GeforceFX 7900GS Extra Pipelines Unlocked
300GB SATA Maxtor HD , Sony DRU810A DVD Burner, FlyVideo 3000 TV, SB Live! |
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loki99 Veteran


Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 2053 Location: Vienna, €urope
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| cp_tar wrote: | | loki99 wrote: | Jackass! at the moment.
The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported! | Never heard of it... should I have? |
Take a look for yourself.  |
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thaswiftness n00b

Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| loki99 wrote: | Jackass! at the moment.
The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported! |
Indeed. Jackass! gets my vote as well. |
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mark_alec Bodhisattva


Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 5930 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Currently it is a stage3 install as it is much faster to perform than a stage one. If I ever install again I may try Jackass if it supports my architecture. |
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Q-collective Veteran


Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1915 Location: You really wanna know?
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mark_alec wrote: | | Currently it is a stage3 install as it is much faster to perform than a stage one. If I ever install again I may try Jackass if it supports my architecture. |
Same. _________________ Member of the Dutch section of the Committee for a Workers International |
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codergeek42 Bodhisattva

Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 5136 Location: Anaheim, CA (USA)
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Vanilla Stage1.  _________________ ~~ Peter: GNU/Linux geek, caffeine addict, and Free Software advocate.
Who am I? :: EFF & FSF |
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AaronPPC Guru

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 457 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Stage 1. It's how I learned Linux. It's like learning to swim by being thrown in the middle of the lake.
--Aaron _________________ "Ewoks suck dude."
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cp_tar Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 94 Location: /home
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| loki99 wrote: | | cp_tar wrote: | | loki99 wrote: | Jackass! at the moment.
The easiest and fastest way to get a thoroughly tweaked system, as long as your architecture is supported! | Never heard of it... should I have? |
Take a look for yourself.  | Cute.
But I think I'll stick to Stage 1. _________________ Do not feed the elephant. |
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joey_knisch n00b

Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 58
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:05 am Post subject: |
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1) Stage 3 to just before reboot.
2) emerge ccache.
3) nano make.conf
4) emerge -e GCC
5) build kernel using new GCC
6) reboot
7) emerge links
emerge -e world
9) browse web and let stuff happen.
Just on a side note. I should really figure out fb so I can view some por... I mean um... gentoo forums while we wait for X to build. |
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thomasvk Guru

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 599
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| I use Stage 3 by the Handbook, just because I never bothered looking at Stage 1 and the first time I was scared Stage 1 was too difficult. |
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Sir No Apprentice


Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 159 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:10 am Post subject: |
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And I have to admit that in the end I came back to the roots as well. // pun intended
So, for my last server installation I went through stage1 install again.
It was almost like my first Gentoo installation.
Very refreshing indeed! _________________ The geeks | Recommended Packages fOr Desktop & Server | Read BBCode Guide! |
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Poe Moderator


Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 2092 Location: Mysłowice, Poland
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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I use Gentoo after 1,5 years, when I installed (compiled) Gentoo twice. First from s1 and second from s3 + backup. It is my favorite install method. _________________ Hardware:HP Pavilion DV6875SE[C2DT5550@1.83GHz_3GB-DDR2_320GB-SATA_GF8400GS]
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Dlareh Veteran


Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 2102
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I use a KNOPPIX livecd and a stage3 tarball (Jackass! where available).
I will probably try the new Kororaa next time. Not because I use KDE, but because KDE is such a pain to compile and I need to have it lying around for various reasons.
Unless you happen to know what a CHOST is, all you Stage1 people are just wasting your time with a completely inferior installation method. Take a look at Bob P's Stage1/3 thread for all your optimilazation needs.
And no, you do NOT learn more by doing a Stage1. Basically all you get to do is waste your time waiting for the bootstrap (which is highly prone to failure) to finish. Then you are at Stage2, which of course is also a pointless distinction.
EDIT: an example of such failure when progressing to/from Stage2. Many others exist and happen during the actual bootstrap; they crop up all the time. _________________ "Mr Thomas Edison has been up on the two previous nights discovering 'a bug' in his phonograph." --Pall Mall Gazette (1889)
Are we THERE yet?
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thomasvk Guru

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 599
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Dlareh wrote: | Unless you happen to know what a CHOST is, all you Stage1 people are just wasting your time with a completely inferior installation method. Take a look at Bob P's Stage1/3 thread for all your optimilazation needs.
And no, you do NOT learn more by doing a Stage1. Basically all you get to do is waste your time waiting for the bootstrap (which is highly prone to failure) to finish. Then you are at Stage2, which of course is also a pointless distinction. |
I felt bad about not having done a Stage 1, but you removed all my worries.  |
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chunderbunny Veteran


Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1281 Location: 51°24'27" N, 0°57'15" W
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Stage 3 for me, usually with a few GRP packages to get me going. My machine is reasonably powerful so optimisations do not concern me. Even on a slow machine I can have a working desktop (fluxbox, firefox etc) up and running in about 3 hours. |
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Taladar Guru

Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 456 Location: Bielefeld, Germany
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Stage 1 manually but I usually shuffle around the order of doing things a bit compared to the handbook to minimize non-compile-times.
Usually the compilation process doesn't mind me editing the config files for the next steps in the second console. |
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MJOE n00b

Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3
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Wietze n00b


Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 37
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6 |
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Dlareh Veteran


Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 2102
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | | cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6 |
That's the first one. There are two more : P _________________ "Mr Thomas Edison has been up on the two previous nights discovering 'a bug' in his phonograph." --Pall Mall Gazette (1889)
Are we THERE yet? |
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cp_tar Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 94 Location: /home
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| Dlareh wrote: | | Quote: | | cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootstrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_install && emerge gnome mozilla-firefox openoffice && emerge grub && cp /boot/grub/grub.conf.sample /boot/grub/grub.conf && vi /boot/grub/grub.conf && grub && init 6 |
That's the first one. There are two more : P | There is also a typo in the command that would cause the install to fail. _________________ Do not feed the elephant. |
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