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pauk n00b
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 17 Location: Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 7:14 am Post subject: Disadvantages of ~x86 |
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I recently added ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" to my /etc/make.conf file so I could run a newer version of Mozilla and GAIM. I noticed there's a lot more packages available (updated versions of ethereal, nmap, etc).
Now, here's my question. I'm using my machine as a day-to-day desktop system. I don't want my system to fall over and die on my suddenly (It's my only machine...), but I do want to be able to run some of the more recent software.
Would it be (relatively) safe to continue working with ~x86 in my make.conf file, and would it also be (relatively) safe to update packages like GNOME, gcc, glibc, grub and some other tools Portage is recommending to me when I run a emerge -up system/world?
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slartibartfasz Veteran
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Posts: 1462 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 7:27 am Post subject: |
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'~x86' means that u use development packages - u cant be sure that they work...
i would use:
Code: | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge <package> |
to install some newer packages. use 'emerge -U world' to prevent downgrading of those packages or remove them from your /var/cache/edb/world file after installation... _________________ To an engineer the glass is neither half full, nor half empty - it is just twice as big as it needs to be. |
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darktux Veteran
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 1086 Location: Coimbra, Portugal
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 8:44 am Post subject: |
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I've been using ~x86 for quite some time, and no real problems yet. I guess I'm just lucky _________________ Lego my ego, and I'll lego your knowledge
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slartibartfasz Veteran
Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Posts: 1462 Location: Vienna, Austria
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 9:03 am Post subject: |
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yeah - i use ~x86 too - even on a production server - no serious problems so far, but i wouldnt do this if i had only one machine...if there is a problem with a major package (portage, glibc,...) u are in serious trouble.
in addition there are sometimes minor problems with one ebuild or the other and you should have at least some knowledge to work around them - from time to time i had to tweak a ebuild or implement a solution from bugs.gentoo.org - if u have no experience with this i would rather stay with the stable system for if something breaks serously and a reinstall is necessary it might buy u a few days without a running computer... _________________ To an engineer the glass is neither half full, nor half empty - it is just twice as big as it needs to be. |
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dolbz Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 138 Location: Nuneaton,UK
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm running it only an only machine and haven't run into a problem yet. infact I prefer it because you really are on the bleeding edge and know that your system is as up to date as possible |
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idl Retired Dev
Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Posts: 1728 Location: Nottingham, UK
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using ~x86 since I installed Gentoo.. Most packages are fine to install, but of course others are not.. like CVS ebuilds for example and development branch ebuilds. But those shouldnt install by default anyway, you will probably need to emerge them specifically...
Its ok to use ~x86 as long as you are careful and consider all the factors before you install potentially unstable software. _________________ a.k.a port001
Found a bug? Please report it: Gentoo Bugzilla |
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guero61 l33t
Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Posts: 811 Location: Behind you
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2003 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I too have used "~x86" for several months now. I would note that back in November/December, I had some problems with the ~x86 packages nuking stuff, but never so badly that I had to start from scratch. I guess that's why it's called the "bleeding edge" |
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