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vdemeester
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| tchak wrote: | | It is faster! I run it for 3 days and it I can feel it. |
My gnome 2.12beta on my AMD k7 800 is faster than my gnome 2.10 on AMD Athlon XP 2600+ so yes, gnome 2.12 is faster ^^ and cairo rox !
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vipernicus
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| vdemeester wrote: | | tchak wrote: | | It is faster! I run it for 3 days and it I can feel it. |
My gnome 2.12beta on my AMD k7 800 is faster than my gnome 2.10 on AMD Athlon XP 2600+ so yes, gnome 2.12 is faster ^^ and cairo rox ! |
What use flags are you using? Did you compile cairo with glitz?
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RuiP
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Ok it's official released...
http://gnome.org/ |
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blue.sca
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can anyone tell me where to find information about a real minimal gnome install? i can nowhere find a list of absolut core packages gnome needs to run.
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Naib
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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cat /usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome-light/gnome-light-2.10.ebuild
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ehh... gnome-light is.. light... (emerge -p gnome-light)
Or you can emerge gnome-session and nautilus only and let the portage get the needed dependencies... I guess this gives you a very light gnome. |
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blue.sca
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thanks. i know about gnome-light but are there more possibilities for tweaking? somewhere on gnome.org just has to be anything about what gnome needs...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Naib wrote: | | cat /usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome-light/gnome-light-2.10.ebuild |
that's not very light with a mozilla dependance 
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ikshaar
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Unfortunately gnome-light is broken... at least 2.10 was. it emerges but several components are not working... (I reported bugs and was told it won't be fixed - as gnome-light should stay light !! quite stupid answer). Anyway I now used a stripped version of the regular gnome ebuild...
For a "reduced" Gnome emerge time, you can remove safely - if you don't use - evolution, evolution-data-server, gnome-games and epiphany (dep. mozilla)...
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If you want gtk to be light, there is always:
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ClieX
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Say me, what packages must write in packages.keywords/unmask for emerge gnome-2.12.0, please.
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Naib
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ptitoine wrote: | | Naib wrote: | | cat /usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome-light/gnome-light-2.10.ebuild |
that's not very light with a mozilla dependance |
Err you looking at the same file?
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RDEPEND="!gnome-base/gnome-core
!gnome-base/gnome
>=dev-libs/glib-2.6.1
>=dev-libs/atk-1.9.1
>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.1
>=x11-libs/pango-1.8.1
>=gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2
>=x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.16
>=gnome-base/orbit-2.12.1
>=gnome-base/gconf-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.0-r2
>=gnome-base/libbonobo-2.8.1
>=gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.8.1
>=gnome-base/libgnome-2.10
>=gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10
>=gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.10
>=gnome-base/libglade-2.5
>=gnome-base/control-center-2.10
>=gnome-base/eel-2.10
>=gnome-base/nautilus-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-session-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.10
>=x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10
>=x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.10
>=x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.10
>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.9.5
>=x11-libs/libwnck-2.10
>=x11-wm/metacity-2.10
>=gnome-extra/yelp-2.6.5" |
that is bear-minimal gnome-desktop for GNOEM-2.10, 2.12 wont be that much different
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Remove the dependency on yelp, that should be the one pulling mozilla in. I've got 2 systems running my own gnome-light (without yelp and other stuff), without any problem  |
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olger901
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Well I don't know what system you guys have but I got an:
AMD Athlon XP 3000
Asus A7N8X
XFX Geforce 6800GT
Infineon 1Gig of Ram
and Gnome 2.10.2 (not 2.12) starts within 6 or 7 seconds for me. |
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blue.sca
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Evil2000 wrote: | | Remove the dependency on yelp, that should be the one pulling mozilla in. I've got 2 systems running my own gnome-light (without yelp and other stuff), without any problem :D |
in exactly that 'other stuff' i am interested :)
i just can't believe that there is no information about a package hierachie on gnome.org or that it is just so hard to find. all i want is to strip down gnome to a bare minimal and then build thing up just like i did with the whole linux installation with gentoo.
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Evil2000
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| That "other stuff" is apps like eye-of-gnome, gpdf and bug-buddy, which are non-existant in the vanilla gnome-light (I used the standard gnome-ebuild for my own flavor of gnome, with a fairly complete Gnome feature-wise, but without all the extra apps). If you want a minimal gnome, just remove yelp from Gentoo's own gnome-light ebuild, afaik that's about the lightest thing you get. |
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Naib
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lol a dup post within a thread - how do we report this?
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| Naib wrote: |
lol a dup post within a thread - how do we report this? |
Good question, let's close the thread?  |
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| Heh. Sorry. I refreshed the site and saw the announcement. It wasn't there like 2h ago or something:P If you like, I can delete the post.Deleting is yummy. |
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| Naib wrote: | | ptitoine wrote: | | Naib wrote: | | cat /usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome-light/gnome-light-2.10.ebuild |
that's not very light with a mozilla dependance |
Err you looking at the same file?
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RDEPEND="!gnome-base/gnome-core
!gnome-base/gnome
>=dev-libs/glib-2.6.1
>=dev-libs/atk-1.9.1
>=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.1
>=x11-libs/pango-1.8.1
>=gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2
>=x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.16
>=gnome-base/orbit-2.12.1
>=gnome-base/gconf-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.0-r2
>=gnome-base/libbonobo-2.8.1
>=gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.8.1
>=gnome-base/libgnome-2.10
>=gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.10
>=gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.10
>=gnome-base/libglade-2.5
>=gnome-base/control-center-2.10
>=gnome-base/eel-2.10
>=gnome-base/nautilus-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-session-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.10
>=gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.10
>=x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.10
>=x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.10
>=x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.10
>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.9.5
>=x11-libs/libwnck-2.10
>=x11-wm/metacity-2.10
>=gnome-extra/yelp-2.6.5" |
that is bear-minimal gnome-desktop for GNOEM-2.10, 2.12 wont be that much different |
Remove:
>=x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.10
>=gnome-extra/yelp-2.6.5
>=x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.10
Themes arent needed and should not even be listed as a dependency. Gnome-terminal is not a must have either and can be substituted with x-term or aterm. Yelp is not required and as was mentioned above, will pull in mozilla (work is being done to try and substitute firefox for mozilla but its still not working). This should give you a working and minimal GNOME install.
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nuopus
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:42 am Post subject: Mozilla does not have to be a dependency. |
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| ptitoine wrote: | | Naib wrote: | | cat /usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome-light/gnome-light-2.10.ebuild |
that's not very light with a mozilla dependance |
GNOME does not have a mozilla dependency. YELP does. And even then, if you use the firefox use flag, you can build that against firefox instead of mozilla. So if you have Mozilla built and you dont even use it, maybe you should add the firefox USE flag and emerge yelp or do emerge -ND world to try and rebuild a good portion of your mozilla dependent programs to use firefox. |
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nuopus
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| Quote: | | Themes arent needed and should not even be listed as a dependency. Gnome-terminal is not a must have either and can be substituted with x-term or aterm. Yelp is not required and as was mentioned above, will pull in mozilla (work is being done to try and substitute firefox for mozilla but its still not working). This should give you a working and minimal GNOME install. |
Its working perfectly. I dont have mozilla in there and yelp still works as well as epiphany. I just added firefox as one of my USE flags and emerge -ND world and it rebuilt the ones capable of using firefox. I was then able to unmerge mozilla WITHOUT the system wanting to rebuild it when I do an emerge -uD world.
Epiphany still works as well as yelp. Maybe its not working because you are using ~x86 keywords in your make.conf which is a BAD idea. You should be adding app specific keywods to package.keywords. |
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