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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:32 pm    Post subject: Fluxbox or Blackbox Reply with quote

Just a quick question:

What would you choose?

Fluxbox or Blackbox

and why?

thnx!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:50 pm    Post subject: Personally I would choose fluxbox Reply with quote

Personally I would choose fluxbox. I think it's an improvement on Blackbox.

However Fluxbox is not GPL. It is open source, so it really depends on how political you are.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2003 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I use fluxbox (on my laptop, for speed reasons). I haven't tried blackbox yet, but did try out openbox. As open- and fluxbox are based on blackbox, but offer (as it seams) a little bit more, fluxbox is probably a better choice than blackbox. I don't know the features of blackbox 0.65 (current stable) though.

The main reason, I would recommend flux over blackbox is the fact that there are far more flux-users than blackbox-users in these forums (at least it seems to me) so you might get some better help when running into problems (or just have some questions on this or that :wink: )
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Openbox :)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Personally I would choose fluxbox Reply with quote

meekrob wrote:
Personally I would choose fluxbox. I think it's an improvement on Blackbox.

However Fluxbox is not GPL. It is open source, so it really depends on how political you are.


8O

Seek zee differences...

Fluxbox license:

Quote:

Copyright (c) 2001 Henrik Kinnunen (fluxgen@linuxmail.org)

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software.


Blackbox license:

Quote:

Copyright (c) 2001 - 2003 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <shaleh at debian.org>
Copyright (c) 1997 - 2000, 2002 - 2003
Bradley T Hughes <bhughes at trolltech.com>

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software.


I see no GPL...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vote for Fluxbox here... I installed it cause I wasn't please with KDE/Gnome at the time for some reason... and it drove me nuts for a while... now I can't stand anything less minimal :)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are a lot similar, but I choose fluxbox too !
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just switched to FluxBox and its AMAZING !

I've been using Gnome/Sawfish for about a year and had it pretty smooth (Screenshots: http://www.basic-rip.co.uk/tenpin/system.html) but compared to Fluxbox its nowhere near as fast, smooth and refined.

I dunno what the differences are between Flux/Black/Open Box but I believe only Flux has tabs and they rock. Annoyingly Fluxbox doesn't have always ontop but the next version will.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like tabbed windows go for Flux. I personally think they're ugly, so I have Openbox on my FreeBSD box. On my Gentoo desktop I now have Waimea, very cool and minimal. 8)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Waimea is very cool and minimal, but waimea doesn't have tabs, and without that I'm not the same ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read though that tabs are in the works (I just hope I can turn them off).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like OpenBox since it has all the features of FluxBox and BlackBox, with exception of the tabs which I don't need/like.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Personally I would choose fluxbox Reply with quote

Sniet Pot wrote:
8O

Seek zee differences...

Fluxbox license:

Quote:

Copyright (c) 2001 Henrik Kinnunen (fluxgen@linuxmail.org)

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software.


Blackbox license:

Quote:

Copyright (c) 2001 - 2003 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <shaleh at debian.org>
Copyright (c) 1997 - 2000, 2002 - 2003
Bradley T Hughes <bhughes at trolltech.com>

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
all copies or substantial portions of the Software.


I see no GPL...


Hmm right. I guess thats what I get for listening to the yammerings at my local linux users group. Thanks for clearing that up.

My advice to the original poster would be to try all three, and then decide. It's a matter of personal preference.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have been running fluxbox for about a year now, and it has never let me down... loads fast and has never had one single error... my vote goes to fluxbox

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moving from Desktop Environments as this is not a request for support.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pardon the igorance.

what's the difference between open source and gpl? i thought they shared the same ideals?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fluxbox is my favorite because it has a remember patch which works fine for me. AFAIK Openbox doesn't have a similar patch nor does it remember settings on it's own. I don't like tabs so I just disable them.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

openbox \o/

Why? Well, it's *box and it has snap-to-windows feature. On the other hand, fluxbox has tabs - but i like to see all my windows _and_ manage them easily.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sibbe wrote:
Well, it's *box and it has snap-to-windows feature. On the other hand, fluxbox has tabs
It would be nice to have both though. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I used tabs, I cannot do without the tabs any more :)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here, I'm addicted to tabs :D
Discovered them a couple of weeks ago, and since then I've been hooked!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its fluxbox for me, and I turned the tabs off, although sometimes I use em when things get messy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm surprised only 1 person has mentioned the wonderful remember patch. it's that patch that finally got me to switch from enlightenment. i cannot live without remember settings!

the tabs rock too :D
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kraylus wrote:
what's the difference between open source and gpl? i thought they shared the same ideals?

Open Source is just a general philosophy on code. GPL is a specific open source license. While the GPL is open source there are other open source licenses out there (like BSD). Hope this helps.
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