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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:04 am    Post subject: 2005.1 new cool installer, works? Reply with quote

Just wondering if anyone else has had problems with the installer. I tried about five different ways today and it kept crapping out on me. One time I thought it was working but it just stalled at the partitioning stage.

I've installed gentoo by hand quite a few times. I'm still quite the noob so it makes good practice for me. But it would be real nice if this installer worked. If you ask me, it's the best thing thats happened to gentoo since my prism54 card worked durring install on the 2005.0 cd.

I know vidalinux is another option, now that 1.2 is out. But I still like just the raw gentoo better. Oh well, guess it's back to the original install style.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also wonder anyone succeeded using the experimental installer to install 2005.1.

But it doesn't support ReiserFS, or RAID yet. (They dont like ReiserFS, isn't it a bit better than ext3?)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dundas think of the fact that it is still experimental I bet there will be reiserfs and raid in the final version...


It would be nice if someone could take some screenshots...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright buddy, it's worth waiting though.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I also wonder anyone succeeded using the experimental installer to install 2005.1.

But it's bad that it doesn't support ReiserFS, or RAID yet. (They dont like ReiserFS, isn't it a bit better than ext3?)


Depends if you like data-corruption
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've never had any problem with reiser. Is it that bad?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because you have never had any problems doesnt mean they dont exist.
I ahve never got a computer virus on my system, does that mean they dont exist

and yes there are problems with ReisterFS with reliablity - have a search. Ext2/3 is the must robust be it (slightly) slower then Reister.
BUT is such a minor speed difference so important for home use of data integraty?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I agree with your argumentation about viri etc.

But I'm using reiser here since around 3 years and I never had the slightest problem. And a lot of other users as well. Your argumentation does also apply to ext2/3 so it's not really saying anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is moving a little off topic here. Let's get back on track.

Has anyone been able to get the installer to work? If so, how?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im downloading the ISO as I type. I will post my results of the new installer as soon as I tinker with it a bit. Hope all goes well. Cant wait to see what it looks like.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Im downloading the ISO as I type. I will post my results of the new installer as soon as I tinker with it a bit. Hope all goes well. Cant wait to see what it looks like.


Well, I tried it yesterday a couple of times, but it failed on all times, all random cases :( Good luck to you, maybe you'de be better of with manual install?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first problem, if you leave the computer and the screensaver comes on, your locked out :p

Second... I don't understand how it wants to find a stage tarball, I select stage 3 but it seems to keep wanting me to enter a URL or something.... "Stage Tarball Directory" or something like that...

Third... you can't adjust your system too much, its picky :) When my amd 1400 processor is overclocked it says no, when I'm running with 1gig of memory it says no, so I have to run with 512.. if it fails an install while doing partitioning, you gotta delete the partition tables and start over...

as I've said.. picky :)

but overall, once bugs are fixed/etc... I think this will be GREAT for all the windows converting to linux newbies :p

although, what I don't like, is I can't seem to use any commands through a terminal, no command found/etc...

well, those are my 2 cents, n stuff..

if any1 can explain the stage a little bit better I'd be happy :)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screenshots can be found here.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah there they are :)

Looks nice, cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if any1 can explain the stage a little bit better I'd be happy


Just put in the url to the tarball just as you would do a wget. if you check the dynamic box you don't have to enter anything.

If anyone gets this sucker to actually install, please post your method.

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I think this will be GREAT for all the windows converting to linux newbies


Installing by hand still seems to be the best method. Plus with the installer, it just don't feel like gentoo. New guys like me get a big feeling of accomplishment after successfully installing gentoo everytime, not just the first. Yeah it's good for newbies, but they really should do it by hand a few times. Gentoo has tought me a lot about linux, because it's a manual install.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True.... hand installs are good...

the thing I don't like about this install the most, is if you go AFK, the screensaver will lock you out lol
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukie wrote:
first problem, if you leave the computer and the screensaver comes on, your locked out :p

Please, please, make this the first thing you do when you get past gdm into the Gnome desktop: Fire up Terminal and type sudo passwd and then sudo passwd gentoo, to change the passwords for both root and user gentoo. The screensaver will ask for user gentoo's password, and as for root's password, it is always a good idea to change it to something you know.

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Second... I don't understand how it wants to find a stage tarball, I select stage 3 but it seems to keep wanting me to enter a URL or something.... "Stage Tarball Directory" or something like that...

I am trying the Stage3 with GRP and "Dynamic install" option. Seems to be going well so far, watching the installer package things from the liveCD and then emerge it onto /mnt/gentoo is like watching a magic show. (Yes, you got that right, the installer emerges with ROOT=/mnt/gentoo and not ROOT=/ ) ;)
Rukie wrote:
Third... you can't adjust your system too much, its picky :) When my amd 1400 processor is overclocked it says no, when I'm running with 1gig of memory it says no, so I have to run with 512.. if it fails an install while doing partitioning, you gotta delete the partition tables and start over...

Blessed are the non-overclockers. :P

But I've been having another problem. It seems that the liveCD starts a "firewall" of some sort that blocks any outbound network traffic except for HTTP. I'm unable to use irssi or gaim on it. irssi gives me "Connection refused" and gaim asks for my account info, then shows the connection dialog for just 1 second before dropping me back to the sign in screen. Anyone also having this problem?

(In case people are thinking "iptables", it doesn't seem to be on the liveCD at all, according to rc-update.)

EDIT: Fixed by downloading a CD with the correct MD5.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
just because you have never had any problems doesnt mean they dont exist.
I ahve never got a computer virus on my system, does that mean they dont exist

and yes there are problems with ReisterFS with reliablity - have a search. Ext2/3 is the must robust be it (slightly) slower then Reister.
BUT is such a minor speed difference so important for home use of data integraty?


lol, someone is talking bullshit here X-D
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ulukay wrote:
lol, someone is talking bullshit here

Lol, reiserfs fanboy caught naked on camera. :lol:

Seriously and back to topic, reiserfs is not supported in GLI for the time being because according to the FAQ:

GLI FAQ wrote:

Why can't I create a ReiserFS filesystem with the installer?

Because reiserfs == teh suck...and libparted doesn't support it very well.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe i'm a reiserfs fanboy (although i'm using ext2 and xfs too)
but ext3 is way to unstable for my homepcs and our production servers.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried three times this weekend and each failed miserably.
Back to the tried and true manual method.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do I get this nifty installer to try it out? I have looked at the mirrors under experimantal, but it doesn't seem to be there and the bittorrent tracker is down for maintenence. Anybody got a link to the iso?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuhndog86 wrote:
Where do I get this nifty installer to try it out? I have looked at the mirrors under experimantal, but it doesn't seem to be there and the bittorrent tracker is down for maintenence. Anybody got a link to the iso?

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Look at any mirror in the experimental directory
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick response. What is the name of the file. I see an iso called dolphin-i686-2005.0-r2.iso and another called livecd-x86-2005.1.iso. Which one is it?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not want to mess with the installer trust me. It has many problems.
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