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russianpirate Veteran


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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:03 am Post subject: Depression... |
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| I dont know if i have depression.. but is there any ways to get out of or lighten the depression without treament or medicine? |
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tsunam Developer


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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely, you just have to convince yourself (and believe) that you have the power in your own mind to snap yourself out of any funk you are in. You can also just sort of ride the waves of meh, depression, happy. Emotional rollercoasters!
<---have had what would no doubt be classified as depression for as long as I can remember, and sometimes I just have to mentailly say no..no more depression. It will work. _________________ I'm not afraid of happy endings, just afraid my life wont work that way. |
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allucid Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Someone mentioned before that taking some fish oil pills may help a bit as far as how your brain and body reacts (assuming you don't eat a lot of fish).
For internal conflicts you just need to convince yourself that you are responsible for you own happiness. There are always ways to improve your life. Just find out what you want to improve and start taking small steps to better it. For example if you have problems meeting people try and join some organization(s) that interest you or make an effort to talk to X amount of people every day (at school, the grocery store, the mall, wherever), etc. |
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Valhlalla Apprentice


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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:31 am Post subject: |
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A friend of mine who has serious medical depression tells me that st johns wart helps a bit. _________________ Pork Chop Sandwiches, Oh Sh*t! |
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John5788 Advocate


Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 2083 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:33 am Post subject: |
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wank off to pr0n _________________ John5788 |
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Valhlalla Apprentice


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 161 Location: Sydney, Australia.
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| John5788 wrote: | | wank off to pr0n |
I know that is a joke but its probably not a good idea, the nutriants you loose through ejaculation is considerable enough to make you feel tired and lethargic if done to often and also the combination of the usual small appitite of a depressed person could be quite detrimental....not to say you should never wank, but just not more than a few times a week say.
Also try to get plenty of exercise I know it feels hard and you dont want to but exercise helps with the production of endorphines and genreally makes you feel phisically good, this often leads to feeling mentally good. _________________ Pork Chop Sandwiches, Oh Sh*t! |
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John-Boy Guru


Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 436 Location: Desperately seeking Moksha in all the wrong places
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Depression... |
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| russianpirate wrote: | | I dont know if i have depression.. but is there any ways to get out of or lighten the depression without treament or medicine? |
As said exercise is good - serious 'medical depression' needs a doc. _________________ When you break rules, break 'em good and hard |
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Valhlalla Apprentice


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 161 Location: Sydney, Australia.
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: Re: Depression... |
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| John-Boy wrote: | | serious 'medical depression' needs a doc. |
Agreed _________________ Pork Chop Sandwiches, Oh Sh*t! |
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jakamaka Apprentice


Joined: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 266 Location: My self-sustainable fusion of thought
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Listen to Goa trance and take some Ectasy or smoke some shit..
or...
find yourself a nice girl that treats you right and gets you laid minimum twice a week; eventually there's only one purpose for mankind(whether we wan't to deny it or not): to reproduce ourselves. _________________ It would be more interesting to learn from children, than try to teach them how to behave, how to live and how to function. - U.G. Krishnamurti |
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Valhlalla Apprentice


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 161 Location: Sydney, Australia.
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Pretty much nothing worse for depression than Eccstacy, Apart from the comedown after where you are incapable of producing dopamine. Your body becomes reliant on the E's to produce dopamine and has troble manufacturing it by itself...result you are incapable of feeling happy except while on the up of an E. _________________ Pork Chop Sandwiches, Oh Sh*t! |
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allucid Veteran

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1314 Location: atlanta
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| jakamaka wrote: | Listen to Goa trance and take some Ectasy or smoke some shit..  |
smoking shit is also probably a bad idea. there is no research to show that inhaling flaming feces helps improve your mood.
but seriously, i think weed could seriously f*ck with you if you are depressed. |
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acasto Apprentice


Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 236 Location: Durka-Durka-Stan
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| allucid wrote: | | Someone mentioned before that taking some fish oil pills may help a bit as far as how your brain and body reacts (assuming you don't eat a lot of fish). |
I've mentioned that before on the forums. I take 5 grams a night, and I've gone from over a handful of prescription pills a day, down to just the fish oil and a multivitamin at night.
| Valhlalla wrote: | | A friend of mine who has serious medical depression tells me that st johns wart helps a bit. |
Be carefult with St. Johns Wort, it is very powerful. It acts just like any prescription SSRI, and can have the same affects. It is what put me into a suicidal mood for a few days a couple years ago.
| Valhlalla wrote: | | Also try to get plenty of exercise I know it feels hard and you dont want to but exercise helps with the production of endorphines and genreally makes you feel phisically good, this often leads to feeling mentally good. |
The longer term benefit is in the increased blood flow, increased oxygen, and metabolic changes. It really can make a difference, especially when accompanied with some dietary changes as well.
As said earlier, if things are serious, some of the meds out today, if used properly, can make a world of difference. Even for people who don't want to be on meds, if they can just try and see the difference, they could then have the energy to work on diet, and excersise, and their mental outlook. Then after seeing the possibilities, begin to step off the meds and rely upon their own methods. _________________ Leerrroooooyyyyyyyy JENKINS!!!!1111...................
"You know the Nazi's had pieces of flare.. that they made the Jews wear." |
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HEYMAN n00b

Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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The most potent anti-depressant known to man is "Frampton Comes Alive". You better believe it! Alcohol only makes depression worse, remeber that, I "self-medicated" with alcohol and drugs when I was 16-19 and I am 20 now and regret having done so, it only left me feeling worse. _________________ gf |
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gowator n00b


Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 49 Location: France 75
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| jakamaka wrote: | Listen to Goa trance and take some Ectasy or smoke some shit..
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find yourself a nice girl that treats you right and gets you laid minimum twice a week; eventually there's only one purpose for mankind(whether we wan't to deny it or not): to reproduce ourselves. |
1/ Don't take X unless you get checked out..it has been lined to triggering more serious things in people who are predisposed and being depressed makes pre-disposition higher... Listen to Valhlalla!!!!!!!
2/ Get laid is always good however most girls can tell your depressed, they might not put a name ot it but they somehow find you 'not happy' etc.
3/ St Johns Wort is good... as is 5-HTP for minor depression (both work on the same triggers) BUT .. like acasto says it is very powerful .. my GF's prescription anti-depressants specifically mention not to be taking it at the same time.
4/ ^Alcohol only makes depression worse (the dude is right.... I can go into this deeper if you don't beleive)
5/ Fish oil... don't really know but I trust acasto's experience. I know with my condition which is a digestive intollerance it prevents me assimilating B6 and B12 properly and large B-shots sort this out... however... that's because that is what I am lacking... fish oil is especially rich in vit-E .... so what works for you would depend if you are not assimilating something properly etc. if you have insurance a set of blood tests can show up if you are missing certain nutrients... |
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HEYMAN n00b

Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Poppy tea is good, but only tea, strong opiates like heroin are great for depression in the short run but starting with them is like playing with fire, you might regret for the rest of your life having tried it. They are such great anti-depressants cause the work directly at the spot where your emotions are produced, in the limbic system of your brain, unlike other drugs that are more "pleasure" stimuli's, whereas opiates work on a much deeper emotional and psychological level. Even strenuous exercise can produce the same response because of endorphin hormones that are agonists to the exact same receptors as opiates. _________________ gf |
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cokehabit Advocate

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Valhlalla wrote: | | A friend of mine who has serious medical depression tells me that st johns wart helps a bit. | I wouldn't take anything with "wart" in it. (its St John's Wort btw)
all you people are a discrace to depression! |
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myuser Apprentice


Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 218
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Try and identify why you feel depressed.
Find a passion in yourself, or something you consider beautiful.
Set yourself an achievable goal and complete it, but don't fear the failure of it, just learn from the success or failure.
Depression is something that affects people more and more today, probably something to do with how society operates and bad nutrition.
It keeps the doctors in a job so they will often prescribe something that will give side affects whilst not tackling the root cause. Depression is measured in time though, what decides the arbitary cut off point changes depending upon the norm, you could just be sad about something.
Being sad often occurs because of unfulfilled dreams, so either lower the expectation, work on a coping strategy, or strive harder. But, remember the future is not set in stone. If you apply effort be happy about that application, no matter the actual outcome.
There are many stimulants in this world, spices, herbs, chemical drugs, sugar, exercise if you have added or removed something recently search for a milder replacement or something that balances the removal or addition.
Nurture what is good in your life.
Transform any worries into a quest, something you personally direct to solve, rather than be driven by them.
Oh, and do try to make sure you get enough sleep, that is the time the body and mind heals the most.
A quick trick is just to smile, notice the difference it makes, this may not be the cure but at least you will know what it is like not to be depressed.
And finally, don't let the bastards get you down  |
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brot Guru


Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 318
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject: ... |
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Listening to music always helps for me.
Or speaking to someone who you dont know and you are sure you will not see in real life. You can tell everything. You could also talk to /dev/null but it hasnt such nice answers.
For the music get yourself a nice headphone and just lay down and listen. This is really cool, i think.
(ATM i love "The Hives", just wanted to say...)
hope to hear from you... |
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evoweiss Veteran


Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 1399 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Depression... |
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Hi there,
| russianpirate wrote: | | I dont know if i have depression.. but is there any ways to get out of or lighten the depression without treament or medicine? |
Well, if you are in Russia, perhaps it's a seasonal thing, i.e., lack of sunlight. You also have to distinguish between just being down in the dumps, i.e., feeling crappy because of something that happened or just the usual teenage angst, and clinical depression which would manifest itself as sleeping too little or too much, lack of energy, eating too little or much, being unable to go about your normal daily activities, etc. If it's the latter, you're best off seeing a professional. Look for somebody who offers cognitive behavioral therapy.
Basically, what happens to some folks is they engage in self-defeating thoughts. You have to get out of that and the therapy teaches you to do so. Some folks manage to figure it out by themselves. Also, keep in mind that girls aren't attracted to depressed folks (even the ones in the goth scene), so there's more motivation for you!
Other things that might help include exercise and just doing SOMETHING that keeps your mind focused on other things. If you can find some sort of routine thing to do, it might help. Also, eat right as feeling sick is not likely to help your mood any either.
Best,
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jodathmorr n00b


Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 66 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hehe, I love how everyone is suggesting drugs. Go self medication!
If you think its because theres something on your mind, talk to a close friend about it. I just broke up with my girlfriend of a year and 3 months a couple of weeks ago and I had no one to talk to. Talk about being in a shitty mood. Sometimes just talking about it to someone who will listen will make you feel one hundred times better, like a big weight has been lifted off your shoulders.
Another big cure is exercise. As dumb as it sounds, being active will not only take your mind off of things, but it will increase your energy and endorphen flow, possibly elevating your mood. When I get off from a shitty day at school or work I usually hit my bike and take my anger out on the pedals. I'm exhausted when I get back, but I usually forget what I was all huffy about and enjoy my night instead.
Other than that I suggest a strict regemen of smoking marijuana every evening and watching Cartoon Network. |
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cokehabit Advocate

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| valium, lamotrigine etc they're all good. |
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allucid Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| jodathmorr wrote: | | Hehe, I love how everyone is suggesting drugs. Go self medication! |
...and then...
| Quote: | | Other than that I suggest a strict regemen of smoking marijuana every evening and watching Cartoon Network. |
so i guess that was sarcasm. :p
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zecora l33t


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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Valhlalla wrote: | | John5788 wrote: | | wank off to pr0n |
I know that is a joke but its probably not a good idea, the nutriants you loose through ejaculation is considerable enough to make you feel tired and lethargic if done to often and also the combination of the usual small appitite of a depressed person could be quite detrimental....not to say you should never wank, but just not more than a few times a week say.
Also try to get plenty of exercise I know it feels hard and you dont want to but exercise helps with the production of endorphines and genreally makes you feel phisically good, this often leads to feeling mentally good. |
agreed. |
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Ruzbeh Apprentice


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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| There are some temporary solutions that don't take much effort. Listening to music, watching some cool movies/series/cartoons that just make you feel good/great. |
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-=GGW=- $ol!d $n4>|e Veteran

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I usually get really pissy at people on aim, listen to really loud linkin park slam my head against things a few times and sleep for a good 72 hours, only happens about once a month, sometimes twice, is that depression?
anyway, the funk stay saroun dfor a while but linkin park pwns in general ^ ^
agree fully with everyone here talking about lifestyle changes and the way you look at life, especially the
"you are responsable for your own happines"
I may have spelled it wrong, but after realizing that when im depressed i usually shake it off and find something if not to brighten my day, at least keep me occupied. Feeling like there is some minute meaning to your existence is important.
and btw, if this keeps up, and you have a gf, might consider trying someone more caring and loving, unless you think ur just depressed and she is trying to help.. Destructive life styles often center around those of the opposite sex. Trust me even if you think shes the girl of your dreams if ur constantly depressed there are others outthere better suited  |
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