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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2003 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sincerely hope that you're right. However there are already examples of companies who have decided not to port to linux or even cancelled an intended port because of wine/winex

One of my favourite games is Championship manager. CM4 has recently been released and I have searched the internet in the desperate hope that I might be able to run it natively on linux - I found that the official line regarding linux is "CM4 should run in linux under wine" they then go on to say that it is not supported.

Obviously the company is aware of linux users to have included this statement, but they have decided not to port the game because of wine/winex and therefore linux loses one more excellent game.

I could, I'm sure, find plenty more examples of the same kind of thing or similar. WineX is good for linux games in the short term, but I believe it will ultimately limit native ports on linux.

Until of course linux becomes the major desktop OS! :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bleh, I tried Wine/Winex and hated it... I go with either native linux or ported, but nothing else... I do love my ut2003 port, unreal tournament goty port, descent3 port, descent1 port, and Serious Sam2 port... oh, and then there's TORCS:D... personally, I think these are the only games I'll ever need, but I agree that we need to get the ball going with linux gaming... I would PAY good money for native linux games... to be honest, I will only buy a game if it has known Linux support for it... I guess I could be labeled a zealot? I'm sorry, but I just get a sick pit in my stomach everytime I support M$ in any shape or fashion... :roll:
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is just a little poke ...the project stopped for a while, but i think now's the time to continue it.

sadly i'm too busy to work on it actively, but i'll happily contribute whenever i can.

grimm, ghetto and others (new and old) ...i'm still counting on you guys ...it's still going to be a bitch to set up right ...but i think it'll be worth it!!

anyone (still) interested, please help. ...this could be a massive project!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

port001 wrote:
Unless GFX drivers pull along side with windows and the demmand for Linux ports increases a _lot_, I cant see Game companies making any serious effort to acomodate.

And that's exactly why a Linux advocacy group is needed, to increase developer awareness of the Linux market.

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I think the future for Linux games is with WineX.

Don't even go there.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know we all got tied up in other things and didnt really have time to get this thing going like we planned, but i have some time now, and im hoping we can still do this how we had planned, or even better than we had planned. shoot me an email if you guys think this can still be done and would like to lend a helping hand.

james.m.grimm@verizon.net
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

grimm wrote:
i know we all got tied up in other things and didnt really have time to get this thing going like we planned, but i have some time now, and im hoping we can still do this how we had planned, or even better than we had planned. shoot me an email if you guys think this can still be done and would like to lend a helping hand.

james.m.grimm@verizon.net


i'm shooting an email, i'm shooting an email!!! ...i won't be able to actually devote more then a few hours a week to the project, but i'll still try to keep up as much as i can :]

anyone else? Ghetto? Antonik? Irrevenant? Kraylus? pYrania?
this project would need quite a number of people to build it up and even more to keep it alive!
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: well.. Reply with quote

for the record..
i'm a gamer.. and a windows user transitioning to linux..
i'm not going to go into detail why this moment.. as there's too many little reasons..

the point is.. i want to help.. because when i'm done switching over.. guildwars should be coming out.. and damnit.. i'm gonna want to play it

so.. at the moment.. i can't offer much..
i'm not familiar with php.. sql.. or anything like that.. but i'm relatively decent with generic html
i don't have resources at my disposal to host a site unless noone minds it on a crappy 128k upstream adsl connection..

what i can offer.. is motivation.. time.. and the willingness to learn whatever's necessary..

so whomever is in charge.. or taking charge.. please contact me and let me know what you want me to get working on..

-me
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hook wrote:

anyone else? Ghetto? Antonik? Irrevenant? Kraylus? pYrania?
this project would need quite a number of people to build it up and even more to keep it alive!


Don't have the time right now.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2004 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is X actually required for full screen games?

If not then Linux has a great platform to advocate game usage.

Linux has fine control over what is running and if it can be repeatedly shown that Linux will out perform the same windows based machine, people will get interested.

The figures I have seen for UT2004 show windows outperforming Linux, but the nitty gritty was not shown.

UT2004 is also a port from Windows to Linux and there are some patches which help out as well.

Those few extra FPS can me the difference of fraging or being fraged.

SDL and Open GL are the keys to game adoption, earlier versions of DirectX are often maligned by those in the industry but it has been getting better unfortunately.
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