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mischer
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 Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:55 am Post subject: why is there no wdm ebuild? |
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Hi folks.
I was looking through the forum for a hint as to whether there is a gentoo package
containing wdm (wing's display manager) and learned that there is none. I would
just like to know if there is a specific reason for this. I think it is a nice login manager
when one does not want to use gdm or kdm (e.g. on a small system).
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Bodhisattva
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| Moved from Installing Gentoo. |
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weltraumfahrer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
> (e.g. on a small system)
why no using xdm;-)
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| wdm is based on xdm. The additional PAM functionality could be one reason for people to prefer wdm, for access authorization via smartcards, for example. |
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rizzo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| xdm is the ugliest P.O.S. I have ever seen. I'd like to see a pleasant-looking login manager that doesn't require gnome or kde. I've had to teach my non-techie wife to login and run startx manually because I would rather she do that than have to see xdm. |
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Sargonas
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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I dont like the xdm so I have to keep kde-libs and base installed if I want to use the kdm and I hope that someone does make a wdm ebuild because I know I ( and a ton of others ) would use it! ( Hint Hint programers!!! )
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mischer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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The reason I was asking for wdm was mainly because wdm offers a
window-manager chooser, which xdm doesn't. Of course, one can use
gdm or kdm, but for a really slim system (with little resources), these
require too many fat libraries which one might not want to install.
(Well, I just installed gdm on my Pentium-MMX 233 MHz system here
and I like the eye-candy very much - it's awesome but it also really
eats the resources...  )
By the way: looking into /etc/init.d/xdm I found the script looking for
elogind and entranced. Are there ebuilds
containing these? I had not heard of these display managers before,
but from googling a littl, I guess they belong to enlightenment...
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rizzo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I've written a couple of ebuilds in my day. I'd happy to tackle it if someone sends me a link to the wdm homepage. |
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xlyz
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| rizzo wrote: | | xdm is the ugliest P.O.S. I have ever seen. I'd like to see a pleasant-looking login manager that doesn't require gnome or kde. I've had to teach my non-techie wife to login and run startx manually because I would rather she do that than have to see xdm. |
you can set a background image:
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# set background image
xsetbg /path to/gentoo.jpg |
in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
or play with login window colors, dimension, position, fonts, etc in /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources
currently I have a blue box in the low right corner on a Gentoo logo background
google around and you will find some nice howto |
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Chickpea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think that the homepage for WDM is even around anymore. About 3 or 4 months ago when I was looking for replacements for xdm other than kdm or gdm that would allow me to choose which windowmanager i used I came across the program but I didnt save it and now the homepage seems to be down. http://www.tcscs.com/wdm/
I dont understand why the developers at Xfree have not made changes to xdm to do what the other login managers do. I am sure they must be aware of everyone's desire to have something other than those large libraries.
*****EDIT******
Oh my goodness! I happened to go to freshmeat and lo and behold wdm has been updated.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/wdm/?topic_id=136
http://voins.program.ru/wdm/ (Actual homepage)
Perhaps I was the only one who didnt know this. Where would we be without freshmeat
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rizzo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| xlyz wrote: | | google around and you will find some nice howto |
Hmm yes I did find this one: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3325
I'll try that out this week and see how good I can get it to look. Perhaps I thought too little of what XDM _can_ do. |
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rizzo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Chickpea wrote: | | http://voins.program.ru/wdm/ (Actual homepage) |
If no one else steps in, I'll start on an ebuild in a couple of minutes. |
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morck
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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EDIT: It works fine now !!!
u can find it here http://voins.program.ru/wdm/
i tried to figure out how wdm works ...
| Code: | ./configure --enable-pam --with-pamdir=/etc/pam.d --with-wdmdir=/etc/X11/wdm
make
make install |
but how do i have to modify /etc/init.d/xdm so that it will load wdm correctly?
this is how it looks now (after i modified it):
| Code: | case "$(echo ${DISPLAYMANAGER} | awk '{ print toupper($1) }')" in
KDM|KDE|KDE2|KDE3)
EXE="$(which kdm)"
;;
E|ELOGIN|ELOGIND)
EXE="$(which elogind)"
;;
GDM|GNOME)
EXE=/usr/bin/gdm
;;
WDM)
EXE=/usr/local/bin/wdm
;;
*)
EXE=/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm
;;
esac |
my problem is that wdm is started, but the xserver isn't ... so u cannot see anything
cya morck
PS: making an ebuild out of this should not be too complicated ... as long as someone figures out how to start wdm
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Chickpea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| rizzo wrote: | | xlyz wrote: | | google around and you will find some nice howto |
Hmm yes I did find this one: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3325
I'll try that out this week and see how good I can get it to look. Perhaps I thought too little of what XDM _can_ do. |
Yea, I have been there done that. You can make xdm look super nice. I even found a nice way of setting up some cool xdm login screens at http://xdm.house.cx and I found another program called xdmphoto that was closer to what kdm/gdm do and then thru someone here on the board (Collins?) I was able to put shutdown and reboot buttons on the screen. It ended up being too much work and still didnt give the results I was looking for. Hopefully wdm will. |
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Chickpea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| rizzo wrote: | | Chickpea wrote: | | http://voins.program.ru/wdm/ (Actual homepage) |
If no one else steps in, I'll start on an ebuild in a couple of minutes. |
Uhhh, yes please  |
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rizzo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:08 pm Post subject: huzzah |
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OK I got it to install OK. I don't have time to play around with logging in and logging out so if someone can try it and get back to this thread that would be great. I put this in /usr/local/portage/x11-misc/wdm. If you use the "/usr/local/portage" make sure you uncomment PORTAGE_OVERLAY var in /etc/make.conf.
x11-misc/wdm/wdm-1.22.ebuild :
| Code: | # Copyright 1999-2002 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header$
DESCRIPTION="WINGs Display Manager"
HOMEPAGE="http://voins.program.ru/wdm/"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="x86"
LICENSE="GPL-2"
IUSE="truetype pam png jpeg gif tiff"
SRC_URI="http://voins.program.ru/wdm/${P}.tar.bz2"
RDEPEND=">=x11-wm/WindowMaker-0.65.1"
DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
>=sys-devel/autoconf-2.53
>=x11-base/xfree-3.3.2
truetype? (x11-libs/xft)"
src_compile() {
local myconf=""
use pam && myconf="${myconf} --enable-pam --with-pamdir=/etc/pam.d"
use png || myconf="${myconf} --disable-png"
use jpeg || myconf="${myconf} --disable-jpeg"
use gif || myconf="${myconf} --disable-gif"
use tiff || myconf="${myconf} --disable-tiff"
./configure \
--prefix=/usr \
--exec-prefix=/usr \
${myconf} || die
emake || die
}
src_install() {
make DESTDIR=${D} \
install || die
}
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x11-misc/wdm/files/digest-wdm-1.22 :
| Code: | MD5 b58f968ae13733e2433fcf74b4912ade wdm-1.22.tar.bz2 433330
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rizzo
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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http://xdm.house.cx/gallery/xdm
I take back anything bad I said about xdm.
BTW, I'm going to leave that wdm development there. If someone wants to pick it up that is fine. I'm going to focus my energies on customizing xdm.
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Chickpea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dont Leave just yet.....
I ran into a little trouble and I am not sure how to fix it. I noticed other people have had this problem but i didnt find a solution. When I try to merge the ebuild i get:
Calculating dependencies
aux_get(): (1) couldn't open cache entry for x11-misc/wdm-1.22
Check for syntax error or corruption in the ebuild.
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "wdm" have been masked.
!!! Error calculating dependancies. Please correct.
I have the PORTDIR_ORVERLAY uncommented in my /etc/make.conf and that points to /usr/local/portage/
Am I missing something?
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rizzo
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| Hmm odd. What version of portage are you using? I'm on sys-apps/portage-2.0.46-r12, although you shouldn't need to be that recent. |
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Chickpea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:36 am Post subject: |
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I am also using 2.0.46-r12. I have never used a "local" ebuild before so maybe I have it set up wrong. I have the ebuild in /usr/local/portage/x11-misc/wdm and the portage overlay stuff is uncommented in /etc/make.conf.
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rizzo
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you sure you copied and pasted correctly? Beware of unintentional line breaks. |
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Chickpea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| rizzo wrote: | | Are you sure you copied and pasted correctly? Beware of unintentional line breaks. |
Okay, had better luck today. I copy and pasted into a different editor. I think I used kate or kwrite yesterday. Today I used gedit and when I did I didnt get any errors. However, when i did run into trouble when I was doing a pretend merge. I ended up editing the file and removing the | Code: | | truetype? (x11-libs/xft) |
line. and then it worked.
anyhow....thanks for the ebuild and your help.
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CountZero
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| Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Is anyone going to post that on bugs.gentoo.org to get it put into the portage tree? |
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rizzo
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Swishy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| mischer wrote: | The reason I was asking for wdm was mainly because wdm offers a
window-manager chooser, which xdm doesn't. Of course, one can use
gdm or kdm, but for a really slim system (with little resources), these
require too many fat libraries which one might not want to install.
(Well, I just installed gdm on my Pentium-MMX 233 MHz system here
and I like the eye-candy very much - it's awesome but it also really
eats the resources... )
By the way: looking into /etc/init.d/xdm I found the script looking for
elogind and entranced. Are there ebuilds
containing these? I had not heard of these display managers before,
but from googling a littl, I guess they belong to enlightenment...
Michael |
emerge enlightenment-cvs 
Cheers
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