Stage 1/3 Installation Support - 2005.0/2005.1 & GCC 3.4.4

Bob P · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject:

Problems Setting Hostname & Domainname

the new stable branch versions of baselayout have deprecated the use of /etc/hostname and /etc/dnsdomainname in favor of /etc/conf.d/hostname and /etc/conf.d/domainname. if you install/update to sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.12-r4 or later and you've used the deprecated /etc/hostname and /etc/dnsdomainname methods, you'll notice boot warnings. you can make them go away by following the second set of examples in Section 10.2 of the Stage 1/3 Guide.
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whitesouls · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:46 am Post subject:

well...3.4.4 didnt work for me well but i changed to 3.4.3...but i forgot to tell that..i'm sorry..other than that...it works and the system is more than what i've expected..thanks to you, BobP.. :mrgreen:

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whitesouls · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject:

..2 guys oledi did the installation....BobP ...does this gcc 3.4.4 differs as much as 3.4.3?? does it gives athe system a major performance change in terms of stability, performance or any other factors??

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Ma3oxuct · Guru Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 520

Ha, I got all of this installed (without using the regular stage3 tarballs...I used the ones provided by Rob's Jackass project isos

). I am not sure, but every thing is faster and more stable on this system than before. Maybe I am becoming more proficient with every installation that I do, but it is faster for me over 3.4.3 (which I installed using the jackass project isos). I did install this time into a newer harddrive...but they have pretty much the same characteristics.

Thanks for the great guide Rob P. . I highly appreciate you efforts

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wower · n00b Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 3

Hi;)

I'm installing Gentoo with this "guide" and everything is okey, as yet:) I'm not really advanced (it's my first Gentoo instalation) and everything work perfectly:)
But I've question and problem
I'm on "emerge -e system"(which works w/o problems) but I've lost connection so it has stopped on 25 step (from 89).
I want to resume this proces but I don't want to compile this 25 programs once more (it's maaaany hours...)
How can I do that?
Where can I dedicate which packets should be instaled as "-e system"? I really don't need compile perls/glibc etc. once more

ah and also I've newbie question:) why "emerge -e system" is "twice"?

whitesouls · Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:41 am Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject:

I would like to ask the Stage 1/3 users to seriously reconsider what kinds of problems they think are acceptable to post in the Stage 1/3 Guide and its Support Thread.

Posts should be limited to problems that are specific to technical issues with the Stage 1/3 Installation methods. They should NOT be used as a place for inexperienced users to seek help in understanding basic Gentoo concepts. I've moved my answers to the Off-Topic questions to the first page of the Support Thread. The index to the support thread now contains an off-topic index for those "stupid questions" that keep popping up.

Please try to limit support requests to those topics that are actually relevant to the Stage 1/3 Installation Method.

Remember: this is an andvanced/expert installation method and users are expected to at least have some previous experience installing Gentoo. Users without minimal skills under their belt should seriously reconsider whether the Stage 1/3 Install Method is suitable for them.

Please bear in mind that the GCC 3.4.4 version of this Guide is EXPERIMENTAL. It is only recommended for advanced/expert users who are interested in troubleshooting an experimental installation method. Warnings have already been posted that support for less experienced users may not be available.

thanks.

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taipan67 · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:41 am Post subject:

I'm hoping i don't incur too much wrath for posting here - i'm not doing a Stage 1/3, i'm doing a Stage 1 modified with some of the principles from the Stage 1/3 tutorial. I'm also building a full ~x86 system, just to see if i can... :roll:

After bootstrapping, when i ran

Bob P · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:29 am Post subject:

you're right -- that bright blue post right above yours applies to your situation.

since you're not even following the Stage 1/3 Guide, you're looking for help in the wrong place. although you may not realize it, your problem is very, very different from something that one would encounter in performing a Stage 1/3 install, so please don't be offended to hear that we won't support your problem and you should seek help in another thread.
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taipan67 · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject:

if you have any of the pentium classic or newer intel chips, then the Jackass! Project is definitely for you. the install CDs contain processor-specific stage 1 equivalents in the form of a Stage 3 tarball. all of the heavy lifting has already been done for you.

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taipan67 · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject:

taipan67 · Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject:

We seem to be cross-threaded (pun intended) :wink:

Here's the same exchange from another thread (to avoid extra typing):-

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Bob P · Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject:

@taipan67 -- just in case we live in two nations that are separated by a common language: there is absolutely no danger in performing emerge -e system on a properly configured box. if you are having problems, its because of the novel installation approach that you've developed. we shouldn't pursue this topic any further in this thread.
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Smoothhound · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 149

I have recently upgraded from gcc3.3 to gcc3.4 without any problems and I have been comparing my method with the stage 1/3 approach, ie. I'm asking the question "Can my system be considered as performant and stable as if I had re-installed using 1/3?".

I think generally the answer is yes, however the only difference is that I use x86 glibc and the guide recommends ~x86 glibc. So my questions are: what is the reasoning behind this ie. does using 2.3.5 improve performance/stability or do gcc3.4 and glibc 2.3.5 simply just work better together?

Cheers

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yes and yes.
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Bob P · Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject:

new problem added to the Quick Reference Guide:

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Framebuffer Problems with 2.6.12 Kernels http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-345229-start-40.html
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Albeit · n00b Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 15

....

(Didn't do the guide word-for-word)

sedorox · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

Hello,
I wanted to thank everyone who's worked on this; Bob P and others. This would be my second time using this article (the first was for my server, which is a athlon k6-3 i586). And now I just got my laptop back from RMA, so I decided to redo the gentoo install with this guide, since it really helped my server, and so far everything is preforming wonderful. I did run into a minor problem. The date was off on my system when I first started it (something like "2.3e+3" in the future

and then when I ran the ntp-update part, and I would continue compiling, it would spit those warnings out at me, and during, I think it was a XML package when emerge gnome, it failed, and it was because of the date. I ended up having to re-emerge perl to fix it, but it continues to compile. It appears it was my fault (Jackass!) that I didn't set the date when I started, but all is good now ;-)

Also, wanted to let you know what kinda system this is and stuff for anyone's reference:
Sager NP8790 Laptop
Pentium 4 3.2G HT Extreme Edition
1Gig Ram
2x60gig 7200 drives (yes.. it does get hot..)
Promise RAID Controller (software raid I believe, raid is not in use, just drive are on the controller)
ATI Mobility 9700
17" Wide Screen @ 1680x1050
Looks like a Intel motherboard, as thats most of the chipsets.
And some other minor stuff I won't get into :p (like tv tuner.. etc..)
This is (mainly, ahaha) used for school, dual-boot for windows-only stuff (like some games and Adobe Premier)
Run VMWare for classes.

I got this running in ReiserFS 4, using lxnay's LiveCD (older version, not the newest). So far everything is working great, its compiling nice and fast (all the stuff for gnome that is)

And for anyone who wants it... my server specs:
AMD k6-3 450Mhz
192mega ram
1x60gig Maxtor HDD (ide, /home)
1x15gig Seagate HDD (ide, /, rest: my personal storage drive)
1x1gig Seagate HDD (SCSI, used for swap)
Netgear Fiber Gigabit NIC (acenic)
Linksys 10/100 NIC (tulip)
Symbios Logic 53c810 SCSI Card.
Motherboard has VIA chipsets all around.

Again, Thanks for everyone's work on this, I know I'm stuck using it now (

), so hopefully I'll be able to help more.