Creation of a new 'Unsupported' forum?

mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

What's wrong with "Other things in gentoo"? That's where love originally was...
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fallow · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:

will be much better to make new forum " Unsupported Software" forum .
for put there non-gentoo-kernels,users ebuilds , cedega etc. - everything NOT SUPPORTED by gentoo devs.

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Naib · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't go as far a "compaint"

It makes sense being there (I guess) in the fact that these Kernels (Love,nitro,morph...) are not gentoo as a whole supported.

Since such threads are not posted in daily (unless big prob) sometimes a few weeks IF these threads reside in OTW with all the random threads that appear in OTW it wont take long for them to be pushed off the main page.

Not to bad if you know what you are looking for. But what if you dont?

Take the love src. I first tried with r4-love1 (very nice) I followed that thread to tune my kernel to be stable. I was away for work for 2weeks and when I came back looking through "kernel & programming" where it lived nothing on main page about r4-love1 and since I didn't have any problems had no cause to look for it.

Well it turned out that not only had love2 been realsed but also love2 and since I had been away for 2weeks such threads had been pushed off the main page

Now take OTW such and effect will happen in about 2days (again based upon the nuber of threads).

I can see the logic for it not being in the main section of the this forum, so is there a chance of another forum section or better still IF possible a sub-forum section to OTW for unsupported things:

ie bugzilla ebuilds, custom ebuild (not ebuild writing support) and also all the custom kernels that there are?
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WladyX · Guru Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 503 Location: Romania

I'm also agains custom kernels in OTW, because it's not off-topic, it's gentoo related, OTG should be OK.
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Naib · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject:

lol I started wring my essay reply when there was only the opening poster -
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fallow · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject:

plbe · l33t Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 661

otw is getting rather technical now, use to be random rants coming in here now I come in here I see kernel sources, gentoo desktops....oh well

WladyX · Guru Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 503 Location: Romania

Naib · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:01 pm Post subject:

Morimando · Guru Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 339 Location: Germany

Hm all the kernels in OTW really is enerving.. but what enerves me even more is: Why are there so much and what makes them different?
nitro,
love,
dark,
morph,
no,
skunk,
...
whats it about? They can't do so much different, can they? Well i stick with nitro however, darckness really knows what he's doing (and seppe and tiger, yes)
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fallow · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject:

this is not next nitro or love thread . please read subject of the main post once again

You have existing "nitro or love?" thread for _exactly_ this kind of questions.

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fallow · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject:

ohh this is no postcount++ then -->>

cheers

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TheCoop

Prompted by the recent move of the love-sources thread to OtW, why not create an 'unsupported' forum where people can discuss things that are still gentoo-related, but not officially supported? eg, gcc 4, love-sources, CFLAGS tweaking, ldflags, portage overlays etc, with a big disclaimer at the top saying 'WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS!'

OtW is definately the wrong place for unsupported but still gentoo-related stuff, no matter which way you look at it
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TheCoop · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-309963.html - official suggestion for new Unsupported forum

mod edit: merged.

amne
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WladyX · Guru Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 503 Location: Romania

I agree.
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mirko_3 · l33t Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 605 Location: Birreria

So do I.
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oldosadmin · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject:

I think moving the threads was out of the spirit of the Gentoo Forums. Wouldn't you rather have the kernel gurus who run patchsets surfing the kernel forum to help everyone who's having problems?

Either way, if you must have them out of those forums, you need to give it a place, like an unsupported forum.
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Master One · l33t Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 754 Location: Austria

I think, that's the best idea concerning such matters (who would watch OTW for love-source related topics...).
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codergeek42 · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject:

/agree
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BlackEdder · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject:

amne · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject:

I'm in favour of moving the patchsets from the official support forums as they are not official. We're doing the same thing with questions about non-official gentoo based distributions as well as with questions about completely different distributions. At the moment OTW is the only place that is for non-official stuff, that's why we move them there. Actually i don't get the reason why some people are quite outraged by this decision as OTW is a part of the Gentoo forums - the one that isn't about support of official Gentoo. On the other hand i do understand it isn't the best place for kernel patchsets as the usual spectrum of OTW differs. We are discussing the possibilities at the moment, so please be patient and give us some time before we come up with a decision.
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NiklasH · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject:

+1 from sunny Sweden for an 'Unsupported' forum (actually, the weather is shit over here)

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DrWoland · l33t Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 603

I would appreciate such a forum - OTW seems like a terrible place to put such a great thing as the love kernels. Yes, they aren't supported by gentoo, that doesn't stop them from being awesome.
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