Creation of a new 'Unsupported' forum?

arsen · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject:

unsupported forum ? very good idea

fallow · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:

in addition - good example here :

Sith_Happens · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject:

There is a big difference between the threads that belong in Off The Wall and threads for unsupported ebuilds/kernels/software. I think it is ridiculous to lump threads like Is Armageddon going to happen? with threads about gentoo related, albiet unsupported kernels.
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gimpel · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject:

i think too that to put patchset threads between "happy st. patricks day" and "weedsmokers unite" is not really nice.
those guys do hard work on the patchsets, and many people like to use them.

the best idea is really to create a place for the unofficial things like the patchsets, ebuilds, whatever, and explicitly call it unsupported.

OTG is i think a place for official stuff gentoo related that just doesn't fit in the other categories.

so why not create an own forum for that...

that would be cool even!
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firephoto · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject:

Make a new forum, make it like otw where posts don't count towards your post count or you'll get 100 of aol's "me too" and keep it on track with new linux projects, mods, experimental ebuilds, etc and maybe you'll grow some new gentoo projects out of it then you can move those threads into the support forums when applicable.

I'd keep the fluff out too, no screenshot threads, wallpaper of the hour threads, little jonny's kernel of the day threads. I mean really, how many different kernel patchsets can you come up with that are really useful? Just cuz somethings based off of the joeblow kernel and you added your l33t bootsplash doesn't mean it needs the "i have a lack of self confidence so I need to advertise my rockin 'new' kernel" with a 100 post thread. :roll:

In a nutshell this can be a very good thing Gentoo and won't confuse the new people with what's "official" and what's "user mod" (*cough, sticky in the DE forum).

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egberts · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:

/agreed.

I personally think that OTW needs to be dropped. Poor moderators pouring over these stuff. Too bad, slashdot moderation doesn't apply here.
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Sith_Happens · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:

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nah, without OTW this forum would be nowhere as successful as it is. sometimes it gets a little rowdy, but that happens in every forum on the planet. that we have a place where people can basically blow off some steam or even just talk about something that isn't computer related allows the rest of the topics to be more on focus.

i'm a mod on a pretty large forum where we created an unmoderated Flame On subforum to basically serve the same purpose, and it really does help.
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Sith_Happens · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject:

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Legoguy · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:

Yes, good idea.
It's about time the "unsupported" kernels weren't grouped with the gentoo[-dev]-sources kernels. And them being in OTW is a horrible place - makes them hard to find among other things.

pjp · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-51.html
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nephros

As some of you may have noticed, there's a new Forum around:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-51.html

Personally I think this is a *very* good idea, and I would have voiced that opinion in this thread:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-309963-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html
had pjp not locked it.
All those kernel patch threads were at the same time getting annoying (if you were disinterested in broken kernels) and hard-to-find (if you were interested at being at the bleeding edge).
Also, there is a lot of nice-to-have third party software around whose announcenemnts and discussion threads were scattered all over the forums.
This situation shoud get much better now.

This post actually has no point beyond that "good idea part", so may it server as a collector for meople having similar (or dissimilar) thoughts.

One little thing though: It does seem to not be available in the "Jump to" dropdown on the bottom, can somebody perhaps fix that?
Also, how about an official announcement?
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pjp · Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:09 am Post subject:

I locked it since discussion about the forum is no longer relevant. The forum is open, so there's no reason to discuss creating it. I'll merge this one, but there's really no need to continue discussing creation of the forum.

An annoucement will be made. Someone was supposed to write up a "sticky" thread for the forum before the announcement.

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