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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:45 pm    Post subject: Pls sign the TCPA petition <not spam> Reply with quote

Hi!
Pls sign the TCPA petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/endtcpa1/petition.html
Sorry if this is off-topic.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

down with microsoft!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
The TCPA petiton address was posted here without the permission of the author. kraylus-yes down with evil M$
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Pls sign the TCPA petition <not spam> Reply with quote

Radiouk wrote:
Hi!
Pls sign the TCPA petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/endtcpa1/petition.html
Sorry if this is off-topic.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not many people have signed the petition. IT seems that people are not bothered 8O
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eh? But Microsoft is Palladium. TCPA is an initiative by Intel. Palladium uses TCPA. Just pointing that out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

please dont sign!

let 'em do it.
i mean who on earth will buy such a thing?
yes, the ones who doesnt have a clue about compjuters. joe idiot.
then they see there friends downloading music and playing unboutght games, they will find linux or other version of winshit, but then they probably will know about linux and see the evulness of ms! :twisted:
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
Someone who knows nothing about computers with buy a TCPA computer.
IF TCPA comes it could be the end of Linux :evil: There is a possiblty that a TCPA computer <we don't know yet> will not allow you to install linux.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2200

nice to have a nice round number

if there is any tcpa hardware developed it will only be allowed to run 'certified' ie microsoft os, linux will not be able ot get certified because of its rate of development (although rh might try to certify RH 10 or so..)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw, heres another link for all you tcpa ppl out there:

http://antitcpa.alsherok.net/phpnuke/html/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antonik wrote:
please dont sign!

let 'em do it.
i mean who on earth will buy such a thing?
yes, the ones who doesnt have a clue about compjuters. joe idiot.
then they see there friends downloading music and playing unboutght games, they will find linux or other version of winshit, but then they probably will know about linux and see the evulness of ms! :twisted:

That would mean 99% of all PC-users currently.
Not doing anything is probably the worst thing you can do.

When the systems are here, it doesn't matter how much you scream, it's too late!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2003 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebrostig- well said m8 8) Did you sign it? Also pls send/pass the addess to friends and other forums as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radiouk wrote:
Hi!
Someone who knows nothing about computers with buy a TCPA computer.
IF TCPA comes it could be the end of Linux :evil: There is a possiblty that a TCPA computer <we don't know yet> will not allow you to install linux.


what about the kid that cracked the dvd code? I dunno...give em...oh...a month and someone will be working on linux support

except for...you know...the taking control of the computer part ( I did only read a bit of it so far, back to reading) I'm not saying this is a good thing or anything....but standards seem to be picked up by the developers REAL fast in the open source movement due to its nature
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebrostig wrote:
antonik wrote:
please dont sign!

let 'em do it.
i mean who on earth will buy such a thing?
yes, the ones who doesnt have a clue about compjuters. joe idiot.
then they see there friends downloading music and playing unboutght games, they will find linux or other version of winshit, but then they probably will know about linux and see the evulness of ms! :twisted:

That would mean 99% of all PC-users currently.
Not doing anything is probably the worst thing you can do.

When the systems are here, it doesn't matter how much you scream, it's too late!

Erik
do you really think that the petetation will make a change?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
I thing is if you do nothing-then these company will get away with it. Then when it does come <dooms day> then it's going to late to do anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antonik wrote:
ebrostig wrote:
antonik wrote:
please dont sign!

let 'em do it.
i mean who on earth will buy such a thing?
yes, the ones who doesnt have a clue about compjuters. joe idiot.
then they see there friends downloading music and playing unboutght games, they will find linux or other version of winshit, but then they probably will know about linux and see the evulness of ms! :twisted:

That would mean 99% of all PC-users currently.
Not doing anything is probably the worst thing you can do.

When the systems are here, it doesn't matter how much you scream, it's too late!

Erik
do you really think that the petetation will make a change?


At least it's trying, when you try there's hope - what you are advocating is no less productive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im doing something by refusing to use the winshit compjuters at school and refuse to use theire products in general.
even that wont affect anything.
you gotta relize that ppl has no power, no matter what you do they still are gonna get away with it. cos in the end they have the money.
and they are not gonna give a fuck about some nerds not using there products make them change thiere mind, if you have a license for winxp or something and give them a call and show them your concern, that will bite more than a petetation.
tell your schoolmates about this, tell them how it sucks and tell them not to buy palladium or any compjuter with a fritx chip in it.
that will make a change.

when the palladium machine gets to the stores and everything then ill do something to show my concern and to show ppl what this is all about, like setting up a barricade or something, for now its just ideas. and one is free to have em even if we all know this is seriuos.
you have already stoped using ms' products so for them you have no vote.
possible for intel. but intel doesnt care as long they get money, and thats what they will do when they sell a "the newset techology, the most secure system to the date, use the force of blablla"-product.
the joe user, as i once was, does not know what one is buying when purchasing a compjuter, i justa cared abut the mhz and gigabyte. this was the time when i just needed a comp to see what it is all about.
i got a crappy intel810 motherboard which totaly sucks, and all the stuff in windoze that i was not aware of that didt let me do what i wanted to do, like cdprotections, i mean what the hell. i fucking copyed my age of empires cd so i whould ware out the original one and it didnt work, damn compjtuer i thought. like this was the compjters fault. and i accepted that. like i accepted all the errors from win98, that was naturall for a compjuter. hell so! when i exploraed it a litlle bit more.
i know most joe users dont care enough how things work and will never find out that tou dont have to acceot crappy error messages and cashes when it suits it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well then we have got to tell them about palladium and the things it will do to their lives and privacy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spread the word about TCPA :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radiouk wrote:
Spread the word about TCPA :wink:
yea
tell ppl things like "in the future, when microsoft owns your compjuter, they will be watching you when you sleep!"

"in the future, your dna will be taken to a database controled by an evil company whenever you touch a keyboard where they will use it to make clones of you and then kill you and place the clone instead of you..."

"in the near future, when compjuters are intelligent, they will all be owned by microsoft and they all will comply to anything that microsoft tells them, not even there boss which is you will be able to stop them. and the compjuter will sometimes even think instead of you if it finds you are thinking the wrong way"

"yea im telling you its true, i am a geek you know. we have information you couldnt dream off. belive me."

that will scare them. or atleast put there mind to work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
I'm not buying not any Windose stuff either. antonik- by the time people get to know about TCPA- it will be too late. Antonik-by the way I'm not at schooll-I'm 26 years old.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true joe user won't initially be bothered by TCPA or Uranium (= Palladium, someone once made the clever idea of referring to paladium as uranium, so everyone knows you shouldn't even come near it :) ). But when he can't copy cd's any more, can't dld his favorite mp3 from kazaa or so, he will turn to to his local IT consultanr (read the guy nextdoor who knows something about "computers and stuff). He'll tell it's unbeatable (or easaly crackable, if this is the case their's no problem) and joe user will be fucking pissed off. And even a comany like m$ or intel can't afford to have all joe users being pissed off. Result : TCPA and uranium down the drain.
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