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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just find this whole ciaranm-and-gentoo_lan-got-their-panties-in-a-bunch-so-let's-remove-cflags-to-impress-them thing dumb, even if I don't use it. I doubt they'll suddenly become nitro lovers overnight just because you removed cflags. If people want to boost their egos by flaming nitro, ignore and/or fuck em.


I've been meaning to remove the cflags patch for a while since it does nothing but add the possibility of breaking the kernel. Never got around to it though. Merely coincidence that it happened now.

I agree with you. If they don't want to use nitro, fine. We aren't catering to them.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's hda at my machine, but it could be something else at yours (if you have scsi for example)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellz_hunter wrote:
erm...whats 'ricing' :?:

It's a quote relating a practice common in south east asia where owners of their low spec cars put flashy lights and rear spoilers and stickers on their cars to make them look faster, but in actual fact the only thing those cars are capable of is being "rice burners". The correlation with computer code is that people expect CFLAGS (and the like) modifications to make their computer suddenly much faster when these amount to micro-optimisations that are usually too small to be noticable to a human being. Unlike flashy spoilers in a car they cause harm by making code unstable. Worse yet, the CFLAGS modifications people add to the kernel are actually de-activated within the kernel code as the kernel hackers manually specify most of the CFLAGS that are safe in the code and disable some dangerous flags and most of the modifications are doing nothing.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do I have to create a new splash image for the new fbsplash cause my splash dosent load I have to revert .2 and reapply .1 to my bootsplash to work
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the deadline scheduler working ok now? i remember it was causing hard disk problems before, are these problems fixed?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Seppe, posting from the hip there :oops: I dont have a /dev/hda , I boot from hdc . I did not take the time to read and understand what you posted .

Still cant get nvidia-kernel to compile although that does not seem to be specific to this version only.

I will try to retro to 2.6.9-nitro1 . If that works , I'll post some specifics.

Thanks. 8)

[EDIT] Can now confirm that nvidia-kernel and -glx both compile fine on 2.6.9-nitro1 but not on this kernel (nor 2.6.11-nitro0)

Code:
                 from include/linux/module.h:10,
                 from /usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NV
IDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h:52,
                 from /usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NV
IDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:24:
include/linux/prefetch.h: In function `prefetch_range':
include/linux/prefetch.h:62: warning: pointer of type `void *' used in arithmeti
c
In file included from include/linux/dmapool.h:14,
                 from include/linux/pci.h:864,
                 from /usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NV
IDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1/usr/src/nv/nv-linux.h:75,
                 from /usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NV
IDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:24:
include/asm/io.h: In function `check_signature':
include/asm/io.h:242: warning: wrong type argument to increment
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c: At top level:
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:48: error: syntax error before '*' token
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:48: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of
 `drm_agp_p'
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:48: warning: data definition has no type or storage c
lass
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c: In function `KernInitAGP':
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:76: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from poin
ter target type
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:85: error: request for member `acquire' in something
not a structure or union
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:113: error: request for member `copy_info' in somethi
ng not a structure or union
/usr/portage/tmp/portage/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111-r3/work/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-611
1-pkg1/usr/src/nv/os-agp.c:173: error: request for member `enable' in something
not a structure or union

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, but what is "ricing"?? Only thing I could find was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricing, which has to do with customizing your car...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's comparing car ricers to OS ricers; using ridiculous customizations (i.e. cflags) in an attempt to get an extra 0.5% performance.

I'm quite surprised you haven't heard of ricing or http://funroll-loops.org before. It gets thrown about a lot at Gentoo users.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentree: Try using newer drivers.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seppe: I'm really sorry for throwing this garbage into your thread, but I just can't resist :oops:

charlieg wrote:
Yeah, it's comparing car ricers to OS ricers; using ridiculous customizations (i.e. cflags) in an attempt to get an extra 0.5% performance.

Have you seen "2Fast2Real" movie? If not, I suggest you to find it, I'm quite sure you will be impressed.
You all guys say that people should be free and stuff... So why can't I or someone else use 'ridiculous customizations' if I/he wants to do it? If you don't like some features, just don't enable them - that's all, so easy... And removing unique features from patchset just because a couple of [ mmm... let's say unkind guys ] don't like them is foolish, imho.
INDs: shame on you :?

Darckness: your new project... is it ricer-sources? hehe :)

And... nitro rox!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hermes_jr: We're INSANE nitro devs, not RETARDED nitro devs. Why would we keep something in that has been proven to only cause breakage? ;)
My new project is about as close to ricer-sources as I am to the opposite edge of the universe.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
hermes_jr: We're INSANE nitro devs, not RETARDED nitro devs. Why would we keep something in that has been proven to only cause breakage? ;)

Mmmm... ok.
Darckness wrote:
My new project is about as close to ricer-sources as I am to the opposite edge of the universe.

Damn! :lol:
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bootsplash doesnt work anymore. anyone else experiencing this? i only did a make oldconfig from my 2.6.11-nitro0 and it was working fine before.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's gensplash (or fbsplash), not bootsplash. I haven't tested it myself, but it should work.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my gensplash doesn't work either
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rainmaker wrote:
I'm sorry, but what is "ricing"?? Only thing I could find was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricing, which has to do with customizing your car...

I explained it at length just 4 posts before yours...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK can we cut all the dumb ricer talk from this thread .

This is Seepe's support thread for the latest patch set which will soon be too long to read.

I you want to know more search for "ricer" on the forum and take it from there. You will find lots of threads to post to. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-181330-highlight-ricers.html

Thank you for your consideration and understanding :roll:



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What version would you suggest ?

Code:
*  x11-base/xorg-x11 :
        [  I] 6.7.0-r3 (0)
        [M  ] 6.8.0-r3 (0)
        [M  ] 6.8.0-r4 (0)
        [M~ ] 6.8.0-r5 (0)
        [M~ ] 6.8.2 (0)
        [M~ ] 6.8.2-r1 (0)
bash-3.00#etcat -v nvidia-kernel
[ Results for search key           : nvidia-kernel ]
[ Candidate applications found : 5 ]

 Only printing found installed programs.

*  media-video/nvidia-kernel :
        [  I] 1.0.6111-r3 (0)
        [   ] 1.0.6629-r1 (0)
        [M~ ] 1.0.6629-r2 (0)
        [M~ ] 1.0.6629-r3 (0)
        [M~ ] 1.0.6629-r4 (0)
bash-3.00#


6111 is marked as I because I rebooted to 2.6.9 to test and it worked.


OK, forget the qu. For the record I unmasked nvidia-kernel ~x86 and 6629-r4 compiled .

Thanks. 8)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

=]messiah[= wrote:
my gensplash doesn't work either

Me neither. It says:
Code:
vesafb: NVidia Corporation, NV28 Board, Chip Rev A0 (OEM: NVidia)
vesafb: VBE version: 3.0
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:def0
vesafb: pmi: set display start = c00cdf35, set palette = c00cdfba
vesafb: pmi: ports = b4c3 b503 ba03 c003 c103 c403 c503 c603 c703 c803 c903 cc03d003 d103 d203 d303 d403 d503 da03 ff03
vesafb: hardware doesn't support DCC transfers
vesafb: monitor limits: vf = 0 Hz, hf = 0 kHz, clk = 0 MHz
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xd8000000, mapped to 0xe0880000, using 6144k, total 1310
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device

It's working pretty well otherwise. Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well 2.6.11-nitro1 is running well here. It seems to be a mild improvement on the last one I was running (2.6.10-nitro3) - I had an uptime of nearly 50 days and was quite reluctant to actually reboot, so I'm glad it works better.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John5788 wrote:
my bootsplash doesnt work anymore. anyone else experiencing this? i only did a make oldconfig from my 2.6.11-nitro0 and it was working fine before.


same problem, otherwise everything seems fine.
Code:

$ dmesg | grep fb
Kernel command line: udev root=/dev/hdb2 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1024x768-24@85splash=silent,theme:Lain
vesafb: NVidia Corporation, NV20 Board, Chip Rev A3 (OEM: NVidia)
vesafb: VBE version: 3.0
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:b970
vesafb: pmi: set display start = c00cb9b5, set palette = c00cba3a
vesafb: pmi: ports = 3b4 3b5 3ba 3c0 3c1 3c4 3c5 3c6 3c7 3c8 3c9 3cc 3ce 3cf 3d0 3d1 3d2 3d3 3d4 3d5 3da
vesafb: hardware supports DCC2 transfers
vesafb: monitor limits: vf = 160 Hz, hf = 85 kHz, clk = 180 MHz
vesafb: scrolling: ywrap using protected mode interface, yres_virtual=1536
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xf8000000, mapped to 0xf0880000, using 6144k, total 65536k
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

about fbsplash ;)

Spock in changelog wrote:

A new version of splashutils is necessary in order to use
fbsplash-0.9.2. With splashutils older than 1.1.9, things *WILL*
break.

You have to install new version of splashutils, 0.9.1 is not up-to-date for latest version of fbsplash, must be 1.1.9 +

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fallow wrote:
about fbsplash ;)

Spock in changelog wrote:

A new version of splashutils is necessary in order to use
fbsplash-0.9.2. With splashutils older than 1.1.9, things *WILL*
break.

You have to install new version of splashutils, 0.9.1 is not up-to-date for latest version of fbsplash, must be 1.1.9 +

cheers :)


Thanks for the support. It looks like that splashutils is hard masked. So do this to unmask it:
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echo ">=media-gfx/splashutils-1.1.9.1" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask

and emerge splashutils
I hope it will work then, I haven't tested it myself at the moment ..
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Thanks, ti works flawlessly now (after a little fiddling with the theme tho) :)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, I just downloaded 2.6.11.3 (33.6 dialup, it downloaded for ages). But nitro won't apply, it reports failed chunks.
How do I solve this?Will there be a new nitro that supports this kernel? Please help. I need my nitro :(
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

works flawlessly here :)

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Linux TheBorg 2.6.11-nitro1 #1 Mon Mar 14 19:34:09 CET 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

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