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amne
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure who moved the thread and when it was done, but the move was legit. The US forum is for software provided by members of the community that has no official status, but can be installed on a Gentoo system. Threads about other distributions such as Debian, Redhat or Vidalinux go to OTW. As far this thread is concerned, it is about a live CD, which is usally regarded as a distribution.
We are currently just updating the moderators guide about this topic, please look at these two posts for more some more explanations in the meanwhile.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-1562692.html#1562692 and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1561287#1561287
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adwin wrote:
there is a problem with the reiser4 on ahorn5


When I read that, I was very surprised, since I thought the point of ahorn livecds were to get the latest reiser4 on amd64. I went ahead with my install using ahorn5 and 3 reiser4 paritions including / and it moved along nicely with no problems related to the livecd as far as I could tell, just dumb mistakes on my part. But I am up and running well now.

Thanks ahorn, but since I did not have any problems, I cannot really provide suggestions. Oh actually, when I boot the cd, it trys to start x? and fails. I didn't think it would have x being a minimal cd. I have a laptop with an ATI Radeon mobilitiy 9700, and I did not try any options to get it to work, just ran from the command line after the x error messages, and the huge console was much better than the official livecd, and being able to run the install from a cd rather than a dvd that would take days to download was also nice. Anyone looking for a reiser4 install on amd64 has found the answer here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks :-)

i really try to get free time for a new livecd-version.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Reiser4 write problems on AMD64 X2 Reply with quote

I had a problem when downloading the stage from the mirror.
The download repeatedly failed after downloading 10 megabytes.
This only happened when using reiser4.
When I try any other fs, the problem goes away.
This is an AMD64 x2 on an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium.
Yes, it passed memtest.

I'm defaulting to reiserfs 3.6. Hope that is fast, too.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you really need to update your links / mirrors.
As I wrote some time back, I can host your livecd.

If you want to continue the reiser4 series, you GOT to update your kernel patch, as a lot has been fixed since.
I already wrote to you about it, so I won't post that again here.

Now the praise:
You have built a nice, lightweight amd64 livecd I'm sure a lot of people appreciate.
;]
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome CD, thanks for putting in the effort! Downloaded from the n-ix mirror with 200+kBps. CD worked fine on an Asus A8N-E mobo with Gigabyte 6200 TC128 graphics card.

For the next release perhaps you could include a PDF reader? No need to include a KDE desktop as fluxbox does everything thats needed.

Thanks again! :D
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the way it should be. I don't see the need for some eyecandy.
FLuxbox is my standard window manager.
Ahorn is a LiveCD I often used till I made my own.
There are a few Live64 cd's out there, but most of them include KDE and / or other heavy wm's.
What's the point in that?

On the general, I only need it for presentations, a quick rescue system or in order to do a chroot install.
If I need to do something in X and at the same time compile, I would need every ounce of power I have, even though I have a dual opteron system.

Just a few suggestions:

vim is a far better editor than nano, you could include it at nearly no space-cost.
A few kernel modules like shfs would be nice, if people ten to have all they need on *nix machines.
Try not using morph-sources. In one word, they "su*k"

Other than that, keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks all for your help. finally i found some time and motivation to do an update.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've DL'ed your gnuplanet64.
Nicely done. Nice trimming.

I would still have some suggestions:

1: Firefox is a nice browser, and you can't do all you need in links, although I use that a lot. It would be a good idea to include that back. Just the binary release from mozilla should suffice.
2: vim is still a necessity (who cares about nano ?! :) )
3: You should think integrating a jabber client instead of limiting people to centericq. With let's say GAIM or PSI (Better GAIM, you won't have to increase the size of your livecd by compiling additional qt libraries), people can connect to virtually any messenger, provided that their jabber server provides the gateway.
4: mplayer should stay the ONLY video player. It's a VERY good video player for linux, if not the best.
5: Have you thought about using rxvt-unicode instead of xterm, aterm and all the *terms ?? It's one of the rare terms providing unicode support.
6: I was thinking about SLAX, and including a CVS version of cedega or wine 0.9.4 could also be worth it, just in case, but that would mean installing all those stupid emul-xxx-xxx libs, which we don't want, since we would like to preserve a small ISO size.

Hope you will take the criticism positively.
I am suggesting an objective approachm to what most users would need, not just based on my personal preferences, as you might have noticed.

Keep up the good work. You livecd is one of the nicest: Damn Small for such potential. Fast. Quite compatible.

Merry Christmas.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your tipps. i'll try to implement the most in the next.
the bad for firefox is the gtk depency, but i see, i could compile it with only gtk1.
i'm thinking about qt-embedded, too. but i guess, it's even to much qt-stuff.
about wine: it's possible to do it without the emul-stuff. but why is there a need for wine on a livecd?
if there's a real reason, you should tell me why using it.

thanks for your support and i wish a nice christmas and a happy new year, too.

-ahorn
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried the new version - very nice!

Only thing is it didn't configure xorg for my video card (nVidia 6200 TurboCache) but the old one did. Works fine once I ammend xorg.conf with the nv driver.

Thanks again for a great live cd!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahorn, are you using bsd tar instead of gnu tar?

There is a strange issue that apparently affects only reiser4 and seems to be related to the tar utility included in your cd:

Quote:

gnuplanet64 tmp # mkdir reiser4 reiser3
gnuplanet64 tmp # mount /dev/sda5 reiser4; mount /dev/sda6 reiser3

gnuplanet64 tmp # time tar jxf reiser3/stage1-amd64-2005.1.tar.bz2 -C reiser3
tar: current './' newer.
tar: 8246 blocks + 0 bytes (total of 84439040 bytes = 82460.00k).

real 0m16.281s
user 0m4.661s
sys 0m1.641s

gnuplanet64 tmp # time tar jxf reiser4/stage1-amd64-2005.1.tar.bz2 -C reiser4
tar: current './' newer.
tar: 8246 blocks + 0 bytes (total of 84439040 bytes = 82460.00k).

real 5m49.946s
user 0m4.604s
sys 0m2.547s



However, if I extract the same archive by using gnu tar (from the official stage1-tarball), no problem:

Quote:

gnuplanet64 tmp # time reiser4/bin/tar jxf reiser4/stage1-amd64-2005.1.tar.bz2 -C reiser4/tmp

real 0m5.512s
user 0m4.668s
sys 0m0.843s


It might be the same issue posted here, but it was not tracked down.

Any ideas? I'm interested in finding the cause since I was just about to migrate my desktop to reiser4 -but not if it's having "mysterious" issues of this sort. :?

Other than that it's a very useful live-cd, thanks! :)
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