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X && ATI Mobility Radeon X700 on Acer Travelmate 810

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Post by bryan.bartone » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:56 am

Hi all -

I am trying to get Gentoo Linux running on my Acer Travelmate 8100. I am stuck on getting the X server started. The notebook has an ATI Mobility X700 video chipset. I have tried both the ATI proprietary and native XOrg drivers without luck. The server fails with no screens found. It seems, from looking at the log file, that it fails to identify the chipset. It comes back as ATI Unknown. I have emerged everything so I assume that the server and driver packages are up to date. Any suggestions?
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Post by Wedge_ » Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:06 pm

According to the release notes, the Mobilty X700 should be supported by the ATI driver (see here). Can you post the full logfile?
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Post by vzzzbx » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:44 am

Wedge_ wrote:Can you post the full logfile?
I'm having a similar problem. I can start xorg using the vesa driver at <= 1280x1024 (the panel's native resolution is 1680x1050), but no dice with fglxr.. or radeon, ati or higher resolutions with vesa either.

Here's the log and xorg.conf. I'm using kernel 2.6.11 (development-sources), xorg 6.8.2-r1 and ati-drivers 8.10.19.

Also, while I've got your attention :) it's a PCI-Express card, do I still need agpgart?

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Post by vzzzbx » Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:55 am

It looks like my Mobility Radeon X700 isn't recognised by xorg, fglrx or the kernel.

lspci:

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0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5653
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(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc unknown chipset (0x5653) rev 0, Mem @ 0xd0000000/27, 0xc8100000/16, I/O @ 0x2000/8
.. and it doesn't appear in the fglrx's "The following chipsets are supported" list. I tried a bunch of other chipsets in xorg.conf, e.g. Chipset "RADEON X700 (RV410 5E4F)", which all gave me a black screen that I had to ctrl-alt-backspace out of. I haven't installed gpm yet, so I ran out of patience after typing 10 - 15 of them. :)

I've lodged a ticket with ATI asking about the status of MRX700 support in the 8.10.19 drivers, but I'm not expecting a response any time soon. :|

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Post by NetHawl » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:58 pm

Yeah,
maybe I got one!
Hi,
Ok....I had a similar problem, my Xorg started but then turned out with the error :
No Screens Found.

And, I done a easy thing, you just need to go to the xorg.confand look for this:
# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"

or something like that....now just change the
Driver "Keyboard"
to:
Driver "kbd"

If everything else is like in the How To...then it should work
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Post by Wedge_ » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:44 pm

vzzzbx wrote:.. and it doesn't appear in the fglrx's "The following chipsets are supported" list. I tried a bunch of other chipsets in xorg.conf, e.g. Chipset "RADEON X700 (RV410 5E4F)", which all gave me a black screen that I had to ctrl-alt-backspace out of. I haven't installed gpm yet, so I ran out of patience after typing 10 - 15 of them. :)

Any ideas?
If you were trying to override the chipset detection, I think the correct syntax is

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ChipID 0x1234
where 1234 is the ID (eg 0x5e4f). It might be worth trying this again.
vzzzbx wrote:Also, while I've got your attention Smile it's a PCI-Express card, do I still need agpgart?
I don't think so, but I don't have a PCI-E card so I couldn't tell you for sure. You can always leave it compiled as modules and load them if it turns out to be necessary, but I doubt they're needed.
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Post by vzzzbx » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:00 am

Wedge_ wrote:If you were trying to override the chipset detection, I think the correct syntax is

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ChipID 0x1234
where 1234 is the ID (eg 0x5e4f). It might be worth trying this again.
I'll give this a shot tonight. Where can I find a list of ChipIDs fglxr supports? I was only using the Chipset directive because they're listed by the driver when xorg is (not) starting.
Wedge_ wrote:I don't think so, but I don't have a PCI-E card so I couldn't tell you for sure. You can always leave it compiled as modules and load them if it turns out to be necessary, but I doubt they're needed.
Okay. Might check if anyone in Radeon sticky has any experience with PCI Express then.
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Post by Wedge_ » Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:08 pm

vzzzbx wrote:
Wedge_ wrote:If you were trying to override the chipset detection, I think the correct syntax is

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ChipID 0x1234
where 1234 is the ID (eg 0x5e4f). It might be worth trying this again.
I'll give this a shot tonight. Where can I find a list of ChipIDs fglxr supports? I was only using the Chipset directive because they're listed by the driver when xorg is (not) starting.
The full list of ATI PCI IDs is here.
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Post by specks » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:00 pm

I seem to have a problem very similar to vzzzbx. I have a PCI Express Mobility Radeon X600. I have read through the ATI Radeon Sticky and I followed Wedge_'s tutorial and all I get is a blank screen when I start X.

I don't see any red flags from dmesg or the X log file. I am using gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.11-r4, ati-drivers-8.10.19, xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1. I have compiled agpgart, intel-agp as modules and added them to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 before fglrx. I've tried setting UseInternalAGPGART to both yes and no.

Unlike vzzzbx, my lspci shows:

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0000:01:00.0 VGA compativle controller: ATI Technologies Inc M24 1P [Radeon Mobility X600]
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(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc unknown chipset (0x3150) rev 0, Mem @)xd0000000/27, 0xdfdf0000/16, I/O @ 0xde00/8, BIOS @ 0xdfe00000/17
The full list of ATI PCI ID's shows the X600 as 3150.

If it will help, I can post ouput from dmesg, the Xorg log file, xorg.conf and the kernel config file.

Any help will be much appreciated.
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SOLVED (at least partially)

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Post by vzzzbx » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:03 am

They've figured this out over at the Ubuntu forums. The problems are the fglrx driver doesn't recognise the MRX700's chip ID and can't auto-detect the LCD screen.

In the "Device" section in xorg.conf, force the chip ID to an X800 PCIE one with:

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ChipID 0x5D57
In the "Device" section, locate the line:

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Option "MonitorLayout" "AUTO,AUTO"
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Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO"
Provided fglrx (and agpgart) are loaded, Xorg should now start. Works in 1680x1050 (native) for me with no need for Modelines. Not sure about acceleration, I'll have to check that tonight.

I'm using Xorg 6.8.2-r1, kernel 2.6.11.3 and ati-drivers 8.10.19.
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Re: SOLVED (at least partially)

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Post by specks » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:09 pm

Success!!!! Thank you so much.

All it took was changing:

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Option "MonitorLayout" "AUTO,AUTO"
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Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO"
Fortunate for me, the MRX600 is supported by fglrx, so I didn't have to set:

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ChipID 0x5D57
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Post by Wedge_ » Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:48 pm

Good news then :) I'll add this information to the Radeon FAQ.
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Post by SergOS » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:30 am

Wedge_ wrote:Good news then :) I'll add this information to the Radeon FAQ.
Yes,it's a good news,but on this Acer i still have problems like this:

dmesg:
[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 429 MBytes.
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
[fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.10.19 [Feb 9 2005] on minor 0
mtrr: base(0xd0000000) is not aligned on a size(0x7ff0000) boundary
[fglrx:firegl_addmap] *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[fglrx] free PCIe = 51118080
[fglrx] max PCIe = 51118080
[fglrx] free LFB = 110153728
[fglrx] max LFB = 110153728
[fglrx] free Inv = 0
[fglrx] max Inv = 0
[fglrx] total Inv = 0
[fglrx] total TIM = 0
[fglrx] total FB = 0
[fglrx] total PCIe = 16384

and

bash-2.05b# cat /proc/mtrr
reg00: base=0x00000000 ( 0MB), size= 512MB: write-back, count=1
reg01: base=0x1ff00000 ( 511MB), size= 1MB: uncachable, count=1
reg02: base=0xd7ff0000 (3455MB), size= 64KB: write-combining, count=1

and when i try to watch movie or scroll "rich" on java or flash web pages,it's looks chopy.
But interesting is with the new drivers - when i upgrade from 8.10.19 to 8.12.10 and delete from xorg.conf
ChipID,X succesfull recognised X700 Mobility,but i lose backlight on display when startx-ing (everithing is dark,but when
i look carefully on display,i see everything - taskbar,k-menu,everything).When i logout or kill X,lights is back
Downgrading driver solves the problem with light,but 8.10.19 and 8.12.10 have problem with memory .
So i don't know WTF is going on?!?!?
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Post by makton3g » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:56 am

I have the same problem with my X800 and my AMD64 Tower. I am still trying to figure out how to get this system to read all the VideoRam on my card. I am having the same exact problem with my "mtrr", except my base adress is "0xb0000000". Does anyone have a way to fix this, and get all the ram to show.

Here is a good question, since "0x8000000" is for 128MB, what is the hex for 256MB? Tha might help me out a bit.
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Post by SkaMike » Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:07 pm

I am having worse troubles with gentoo and linux in general with my TravelMate 8100. My problem is that it won't even boot a kernel. How did you get gentoo working for you? I tried other livecd's and the only one that would actually boot is Ubuntu in safe mode. So I installed gentoo and stiil wouldn't work.

Thanks,
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Post by SergOS » Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:13 am

SkaMike wrote:I am having worse troubles with gentoo and linux in general with my TravelMate 8100. My problem is that it won't even boot a kernel. How did you get gentoo working for you? I tried other livecd's and the only one that would actually boot is Ubuntu in safe mode. So I installed gentoo and stiil wouldn't work.

Thanks,
Mike
SkaMike,i post here some of my config files from my fullllly working Gentoo on ACER TravelMate 8100 (gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r6,fglrx-8.10.19) :
1.kernel config
2.fstab
3.grub config
4.make.conf
5.xorg.conf
6.kernel patch to make dvd-rw working normal :)

Enjoy :)
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Post by vzzzbx » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:51 am

SergOS wrote:6.kernel patch to make dvd-rw working normal :)
What kind of performance do you get ripping CDs? With grip doing a "rip and encode" (using cdparanoia & lame I think, whatever the defaults are), I get a top speed of around 2x. Importing CDs using iTunes under Windows, top speed is around 15 - 20x, and never below 8x or so.
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Post by SergOS » Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:10 am

vzzzbx wrote:What kind of performance do you get ripping CDs? With grip doing a "rip and encode" (using cdparanoia & lame I think, whatever the defaults are), I get a top speed of around 2x. Importing CDs using iTunes under Windows, top speed is around 15 - 20x, and never below 8x or so.
Your top speed is 2x because your dvd-rw is attachet to system with ide-generic driver and have no dma.
With "my" patch i make possible to atach dvd-rw with ata_piix and device now is scsi (/dev/sr0 not /dev/hdc) like hdd (/dev/sda).
Btw on my ACER 8100 grip start riping with 7x (beginnig of cd) and finish with 17x (end of cd) :)
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Post by shaitan » Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:34 am

SkaMike wrote:I am having worse troubles with gentoo and linux in general with my TravelMate 8100. My problem is that it won't even boot a kernel. How did you get gentoo working for you? I tried other livecd's and the only one that would actually boot is Ubuntu in safe mode. So I installed gentoo and stiil wouldn't work.

Thanks,
Mike
try booting with "noapic"
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Post by swisscheese » Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:29 am

I´ve got a travelmate 8100, too. But xorg isn´t working as it should. The native drivers don´t work at all.
ati-drivers 8.12.10 doesn´t work because of the backlight that goes off. ati-drivers 8.10.19 gives me a working screen, but everything has a ¨green touch¨ and it looks slightly out of sync. (lines dancing over the screen)

I also tried SergOS´ configs (both xorg.conf and kernel) with ati-drivers 8.10.19, but here too, everything is green and out of sync.

Does anyone have an idea
1) how to get the backlight working with 8.12.10?
2) or how to get ati-drivers 8.10.19 working correctly?

swisscheese
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Post by SergOS » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:43 am

swisscheese wrote: Does anyone have an idea
1) how to get the backlight working with 8.12.10?
2) or how to get ati-drivers 8.10.19 working correctly?

swisscheese
OK.Here is more info about my Gentoo:

bash-2.05b# emerge info
Portage 2.0.51.19 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.3.5-20050130, glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1, 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16
Python: dev-lang/python-2.3.4-r1 [2.3.4 (#1, Apr 21 2005, 01:18:21)]
dev-lang/python: 2.3.4-r1
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.59-r6, 2.13
sys-devel/automake: 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.5, 1.4_p6, 1.6.3, 1.9.4
sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r7
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.14
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.8.1-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.itdnet.net/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j4"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 X a52 aac acpi alsa apm arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bluetooth cdr crypt cups curl divx4linux dts dvd dvdr dvdread emboss encode esd fam ffmpeg flac foomaticdb fortran freetype gdbm gif gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal icq imagemagick imlib ipv6 java jpeg junit kde kdeenablefinal libg++ libwww lirc mad mikmod mmx motif mozilla mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl ogg oggvorbis opengl oscar oss pam pcmcia pdflib perl png python qt quicktime readline samba sdl slang spell sse sse2 ssl svga tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vorbis wifi win32codecs xine xml2 xmms xv xvid zlib"
Unset: ASFLAGS, CBUILD, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

Btw,i make some changes in kernel-config,but this not have any matther to xorg i thing.
For 8.12.10 i have same problem :( , but 8.10.19 is working for me (i write this post on this Gentoo system).
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Post by vzzzbx » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:03 am

SergOS wrote:Your top speed is 2x because your dvd-rw is attachet to system with ide-generic driver and have no dma.
With "my" patch i make possible to atach dvd-rw with ata_piix and device now is scsi (/dev/sr0 not /dev/hdc) like hdd (/dev/sda).
Btw on my ACER 8100 grip start riping with 7x (beginnig of cd) and finish with 17x (end of cd) :)
I do have SCSI CD support enabled, /dev/cdrom points at the same thing as /dev/sr0, /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. Speed is still not faster than 4x or so. :?

For each track I'm ripping, I get the warning msg "Could not disable kernel translation layer" on the console (I think this is coming from cdparanoia), and my syslog is filled up with these printks:

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sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in;
   program grip not setting count and/or reply_len properly
This is using vanilla 2.6.11.7 with "your" patch to those two libata files.
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Post by SergOS » Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:24 am

vzzzbx wrote: I do have SCSI CD support enabled, /dev/cdrom points at the same thing as /dev/sr0, /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. Speed is still not faster than 4x or so. :?

For each track I'm ripping, I get the warning msg "Could not disable kernel translation layer" on the console (I think this is coming from cdparanoia), and my syslog is filled up with these printks:

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sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in;
   program grip not setting count and/or reply_len properly
This is using vanilla 2.6.11.7 with "your" patch to those two libata files.
Post your kernel-config and look on my kernel-config in ide and scsi section.
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