Why do I have to have nano?

ddriver · n00b Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 53

I've been running gentoo for a few months. I'm a bit annoyed that I can't get rid of nano. I don't want nano for a couple of reasons:

(1) I prefer vi. I've been using vi for 18 years, it's always the same no matter what flavour of Unix you're using. It's powerful and easy to use, once you know it. I don't need some half-arsed non-standard editor such as nano.

(2) It doesn't fit in with the gentoo philosophy of giving users choice. It should NOT be part of the base build, users should be able to make the choice of editor when they install. RedHat and others give you a load of stuff you don't want in a bloated distro, gentoo shouldn't.

So OK I thought, just unmerge nano. I did - on all my gentoo systems. Only problem is, a while later I'm doing an update, and I find nano being installed again. Aaaaarrrrgh!! I don't want it. unmerged it again. Checked by doing emerge --update --pretend world, and it STILL wants to install it again.

HOW DO I GET RID OF POXY NANO?

psychomunky · Guru Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 337 Location: Canada

Something must be pulling nano in...

Have you tried an emerge --pretend --update --tree world to see where nano appears in that list??

solomonHk · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject:

The fact is, there are many applications out there that are designed to import nano and require it as support as default. So, it is not so much gentoo, as it is the applications out there. Nano is not that large. So why not just use vim or vi and forget nano is even installed? Besides, nano isn't meant to compete with VI, it is a pico clone meant to replace pico and pico only.

dfy · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 79

As far as I know, nano is part of the "system" profile - you can't get rid of it (you'd have to edit the profile to do so). The reason for nano being installed is that you need a text editor for many things you do in gentoo (starting with the chrooted environment you get into during installation), and newbies can't handle vi/vim effectively. Seriously, is nano a problem? It just takes a few kilobytes, no?

ciaranm · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject:

Wrong! virtual/editor is in the profile. virtual/editor is provided by various things, including vim. By default some profiles set it to nano, but you can change this by unmerging nano and merging vim without using oneshot or =pkg-version or /path (so that it ends up in world).

solomonHk · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject:

ciaranm · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:15 pm Post subject:

solomonHk · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject:

ddriver · n00b Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 53

Thanks for all the replies. So how about adding a line:

UncleOwen · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject:

TheCoop · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject:

well, afaik portage will complain, but 'emerge -C nano && emerge vim' will sort it out for you anyway
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ciaranm · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject:

Cr0t · l33t Joined: 27 Apr 2002 Posts: 817 Location: USA

Same issue here... so we do not really have an answer to the question or do we?
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ciaranm · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject:

yngwin · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:22 pm Post subject:

Any recommendations for a good console editor like nano, but that can handle utf-8?
I don't like vi - too complicated for my taste.
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appro · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject:

vim :)
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codergeek42 · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject:

You might want to try app-editors/easyedit. It's meant to be powerful but simple enough for anyone to use.
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ciaranm · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject:

codergeek42 · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject:

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appro · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject:

Gentree · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject:

Jeezus , what is the matter with you lot ?

You have one of the top Gentoo devs giving you full, clear and concise explainations that you dont read, contradict and then ask the same damn qu that was fully explained two posts earlier.

I am surprised anyone bothers to reply to such dumb posts

Anyway I'm off to read the doc on using vim , I have it on good authority that my dick will get bigger.

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bet1m · Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:54 pm Post subject:

nano rocks at all

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ciaranm · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:33 am Post subject:

transienteagle · Apprentice Joined: 24 Dec 2003 Posts: 190 Location: UK

Peeps,

Personally I love nano, nothing wrong with it (imho). emacs is horrible and vim is for hairy chested C programming girlies.

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