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Catalan language forum?
Yes, I would use a Catalan forum.
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Other. My vote isn't relevant, but I feel left out if I don't have an option in polls.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:48 am    Post subject: Catalan language Reply with quote

Hi, im new here and i'm seeing that you don't have catalan as one of your idioms, but i see it in www.phpbb.com . Is posible include it in your forum version?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on how much usage the forum would see. Added a poll to gauge interest.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time ago I started a thread in 'Other Languages' to see how many catalans are in this forum and if it will be feasible a catalan forum http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-218664.html. The trouble was (and is) that many catalans didn't visit this subforum, and logically, didn't visit this thread.

IMHO it would be very nice and helpful If we have catalan subforum to ask/answer/talk about Gentoo in our language.

Particularly I studied the possibility to translate Gentoo doc in catalan. I was read xml-guide, translators-howto etc and I'm ready to start when I have some time. The catalan forum will be helpful too to coordinate the translations if somebody helps me to translate.

I believe that 7 million catalans needs a little subforum ;)

Cheers!

EDIT: Arggg, I thought this was a catalan subforum petition :roll: Well, I prefer a catalan forum translation too (and a subforum :P)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:10 pm    Post subject: Catalan forum Reply with quote

I think catalans need subforum
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't asked the forum because i supose that this is more work for the admins and maybe for them this number is small ( i think we are up to 10 milionns :P) compared the others languages, or maybe isn't enough eforts from our side to put one up, but is heavy to determine how many people we are when we don't have a place to met ^^.

Anyway, i was asking for the interface in catalan due is already done and i suposed that no implied too much work to enable it.

Well, let's hope some day we have our small place on the site ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Catalans that I know can speak Spanish as well, thus they can use the Spanish Forums.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
All Catalans that I know can speak Spanish as well, thus they can use the Spanish Forums.


I agree. Even though that, if you want to write in catalan:

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01:15 < kallamej> they can always post in Other languages
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In any case, as pjp wrote above, international forums can be created if enough users request it and we think it will get enough traffic to warrant such a forum. There are no fixed numbers as to what constitute enough users/traffic.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would use a Catalan forum too.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
All Catalans that I know can speak Spanish as well, thus they can use the Spanish Forums.


Obviously we can speak Spanish, and we haven't problem if we must talk Spanish, but if Gentoo forums offers the possibility to talk with many languages why not Catalan and speak in our language?

When we speak Catalan in home, with family, friends, at school, work... if we have the possibility to talk about Gentoo in oficial forums in our language it would be fantastic. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
All Catalans that I know can speak Spanish as well, thus they can use the Spanish Forums.


Yes, but most europeans can speak english, it's the same kind of generalization :wink:

I for one, would use the catalan forum :D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CatOsMandros wrote:

Yes, but most europeans can speak english, it's the same kind of generalization :wink:


Most, but not all.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also is aplicable for catalans.

It isn't enougth reason to say that i know other languages (better for me) for not use my own language.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point is that the International Forums are not meant to reinforce regional/national identities, but only to allow for users that are not comfortable with other languages to have a place to post their issues.

I've been in Barcelona and didn't find a single Catalan that was not fluent in Spanish.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
only to allow for users that are not comfortable with other languages to have a place to post their issues.


Fluent doesn't mean comfortable. I'm saying that i use catalan, not spanish in my quotidian life, it's a fact for more others.

But i don't think it's the matter here, the matter is that i want to speak/ask/answer themes about gentoo in my language with my linguistic comunity, maybe in a long future seeing your posture, so at least have the option of see the forum interface in my language.

Is not for "to reinforce regional/national identities", is for use my language, as so many users use their own language for cumunicate with other gentoo users.

Sorry, but i don't think i'm asking too much.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to pass a wrong impression, as I don't have any problem with creating a Catalan Forum nor provinding a Catalan translation for the forum interface. However, it means that somebody would have to work on it, and we are on a shortage of man-hours after ian! left the Site Admin group.

As you can use Spanish without problems (other than not liking it) and the number of guys wanting it is very reduced (only 14 until now), I don't think that this will become a priority in the short term.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pilla wrote:
The point is that the International Forums are not meant to reinforce regional/national identities, but only to allow for users that are not comfortable with other languages to have a place to post their issues.


IMHO talk about Gentoo with our language isn't reinforce nationalism. In fact for those who want there are nationalists forums around inet.

In the other hand I can understand the no creation of a Catalan Forum if we aren't a considerable group wanting this, like all languages. :wink:


Cheers!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In theory catalan is mainly a political language, that linguistically is rather close dialect to spanish. Even scandinavians use here a common forum even though difference between icelandic and swedish is much greater and active user base here wider than with catalanians, so I wouldn't have it a too much priority for separate catalan forum to be build up (of course it'll never hurt, if there are enough resources).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flammie wrote:
In theory catalan is mainly a political language, that linguistically is rather close dialect to spanish. Even scandinavians use here a common forum even though difference between icelandic and swedish is much greater and active user base here wider than with catalanians, so I wouldn't have it a too much priority for separate catalan forum to be build up (of course it'll never hurt, if there are enough resources).


You don't know what you're saying, sincerely. Catalan is as similar to Spanish as to Italian or Portuguese, all are languages are derivates from latin. And... i want to know who defines a language as political... i don't know what are you trying to say with this.

If it's a matter manpower nothing can be done (at least from my side :( ).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that all catalans have a catalan forum, Que n'aprenguin!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shenky wrote:
i think that all catalans have a catalan forum, Que n'aprenguin!!


I didn't get that one. Could you please explain what you mean exactly with that?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well looks to me like you all speak english.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: Me too Reply with quote

I think the support of catalan would be a great idea because there is important movement in this language. Softcatala.org is a foundation that works very hard for translate great pieces of free software, like OpenOffice.org or Firefox.

It's true the catalan people can speak in spanish too, but for us is more comfortable speak in our native idiom.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flammie wrote:
In theory catalan is mainly a political language, that linguistically is rather close dialect to spanish.


According to mad93, catalan isn't a dialect, is another language like spanish, french or italian. BTW linguistically we are rather near to french too, but catalan isn't a french dialect.

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shenky wrote:
i think that all catalans have a catalan forum, Que n'aprenguin!!


I didn't get that one. Could you please explain what you mean exactly with that?


Possibly s/have/wants

'Que n'aprenguin' is a phrase from Futbol Club Barcelona's president Joan Laporta (a soccer team). It is a joke.

Cheers :wink:
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Support for Catalan Language Reply with quote

Why not a language could not have support on this Linux distribution?
Why close the dorr o anyone speaking any minoritarie language?

Thanks.

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