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trpn
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Hey,
I have recently been working on an installer for gentoo called diagi. It is made using dialog (and xdialog for use with knoppix) and bash. You can see more info on it here (with screenshots).
I have not been able to test it much (since I am the only person testing it!) but I have gotten through it no problem a few times now. It is very rough also since I have only recently been able to put much effort into it, and I just learned bash scripting about 4 months ago. If anyone wants to try it go ahead, you can do it from within a linux machine (or knoppix or the gentoo minimal cd's) if you have a spare harddrive. But please don't hold me responsible if anything goes wrong (plus i wouldn't mind someone else's feedback)
Now, I have a question. I have heard rumours that the gentoo devs are working on their own installer called genstall (???) I looked at the website for genstall and their isn't much about it. I searched the forums and only found one post saying it was also being written using dialog... does anyone know if this is true?
Thanks!
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This would probably be more suited to gentoo chat, but anyhow.
Yes, an GUI installer cd is planned, along with the old-style install. Maybe you could talk to the devs about hopping on that project if you were interested.
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It looks nice. I shall take a look at the code when I get home and possibly help out with it if you want me to do that. Cheers.  |
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trpn
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Pwnz3r - Go ahead! Any improvements are always welcome. As I said before I just started with shell scripting (the only other languages I know are php4 and asp3 and its been a while since I have done something serious with either of them), so I bet their is a lot of parts of the script that can be improved.
BlackEdder - Thanks for the links... I did check it out last night and I read some of the logs those devs have. It looks like it's going to be made in python (which I have no experience with) so I don't think I will be of much help. |
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mrmodin
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| looks really nice! Keep up the good work |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Cool indeed. I'll hope it will be in a next release of Gentoo |
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Fantastic. Very good work. I'll have to give this a good testing soon.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed, good work!!
If I only knew about this a little earlier... just reinstalled my system  |
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mrmodin
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| This will absolutely be used in my next reinstall (never know when that will be, but whatever =) ) |
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trpn
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| mrmodin wrote: | | This will absolutely be used in my next reinstall (never know when that will be, but whatever =) ) |
I would really appreciate it if it was tested because I am sure there are a lot of bugs.
But, I wouldn't expect it to work flawlessly and I would not try it on a production system. I have not been able to thoroughly test parts like installing from a stage1 or stage2 tarball (since it takes so long!)
mrmodin (or anyone) if you try it out, I hope that you have done the normal gentoo installation a number of times in case this installer breaks half way and you can continue from where it left off. I wouldn't wish a wasted day of compiling and then getting stuck on anyone.
Thanks for the interest though! |
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looks really nice, ill test it on my next install
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| hehe, no need to worry about me =) |
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This is really nice. I just did a stage 3 install and it worked great! I installed with the 2.6.10-r6 kernel using genkernel. Oh btw, I installed it in Virtual PC. I didn't run into any major problems (I just had to load the network module after I rebooted manually). Keep up the excellent work trpn!  |
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trpn
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| Snake785 wrote: | | This is really nice. I just did a stage 3 install and it worked great! I installed with the 2.6.10-r6 kernel using genkernel. Oh btw, I installed it in Virtual PC. I didn't run into any major problems (I just had to load the network module after I rebooted manually). Keep up the excellent work trpn! |
Thanks!
No suggestions though? |
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| When I select download, it tells me I need to format, dispite the fact that I already formatted. |
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trpn
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| Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Xithix wrote: | | When I select download, it tells me I need to format, dispite the fact that I already formatted. |
hmm did you format your drives using another method other than within this script?
Actually I just thought of another thing. Are you trying to install on a hard drive that is shared with another operating system? If so when you were asked to format did you ever cancel out?
Edit: I just made a quick fix for this. Check out the website, the new version is there. |
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Great idea! Have you thought of including Kuroo http://tux.myftp.org/wikka/wikka.php?wakka=Wiki as part of the installer? This would give your installer program GUI access to the Portage system.
Also, check out another thread on a similar topic:
Automatic kernel/USE config at installation dep. on hardware
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=287711
Try to get your installer included in future Live CDs - it would make installation a lot easier and lead to a thorough testing of your product! |
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trpn
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| vladc wrote: | Great idea! Have you thought of including Kuroo http://tux.myftp.org/wikka/wikka.php?wakka=Wiki as part of the installer? This would give your installer program GUI access to the Portage system.
Also, check out another thread on a similar topic:
Automatic kernel/USE config at installation dep. on hardware
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=287711
Try to get your installer included in future Live CDs - it would make installation a lot easier and lead to a thorough testing of your product! |
Thanks!
But.... kuroo needs X. Diagi is a just a bash script that uses dialog as a front end, and thats basically all it is. Unless the installation media included some form of X-windows then it wouldn't be possible. (The minimal cd's do not.)
Perhaps if a front end to portage written using dialog exists then it could be used.
As for detecting the hardware that would be waaay beyond my skills and knowledge.
And there is an actual team working on a real installer that will most likely be on the live cd's. I dunno how much progress is being made on that though. |
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| Quote: | Thanks!
But.... kuroo needs X. Diagi is a just a bash script that uses dialog as a front end, and thats basically all it is. Unless the installation media included some form of X-windows then it wouldn't be possible. (The minimal cd's do not.)
Perhaps if a front end to portage written using dialog exists then it could be used.
As for detecting the hardware that would be waaay beyond my skills and knowledge.
And there is an actual team working on a real installer that will most likely be on the live cd's. I dunno how much progress is being made on that though. |
Yup, the difficulties in creating a comprehensive installer are great...
I hope that the development of the official GUI installer is moving along well. There are already two relatively functional and stable Linux installers that can be used/combined/improved to make the Gentoo installer - Anaconda from Red Hat and Yast from SuSE. |
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paneb
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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good job
reminds me of the FreeBSD installer |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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This is a nice installer - Bump
I will work on this and see if I can tweak it a little, like autodetecting volumes. Also, check out modconf for loading modules. It's possible (not sure how difficult) to merge these two for the module selection stage to help out noobs. |
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trpn
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| thebigslide wrote: | This is a nice installer - Bump
I will work on this and see if I can tweak it a little, like autodetecting volumes. Also, check out modconf for loading modules. It's possible (not sure how difficult) to merge these two for the module selection stage to help out noobs. |
any improvements are always welcome.
I can see that some people have tried it from my web logs but I haven't gotten many people saying that "it worked" or "it didn't work". I just updated today actually. If anyone does try it please let me know.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| trpn wrote: | | I can see that some people have tried it from my web logs but I haven't gotten many people saying that "it worked" or "it didn't work". I just updated today actually. If anyone does try it please let me know. |
One of them would be me.
I like it alot. Wish I saw this when i was installing on my laptop. |
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