ANN: split kde ebuilds

DL8 · n00b Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 54 Location: Israel

I emerged a minimal version yesterday (only kdesktop, kwin, kcontrol, konsole, konqueror, kicker and some dependencies). It's just FAST when it's minimal. Great job there

j-kidd · Apprentice Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 200

Shan · Guru Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 556 Location: /dev/null

Yeah, I knew that I was just hoping for a more "automatic" way, eg emerge -Dv kde would just replace my existing KDE with the new split packages (the docs DO say the split packages are now "default")

For the record, I've manually swapped everything but kdebase so far, and its definitely faster, I'm loving it.
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danarmak · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:29 am Post subject:

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thought_poet · n00b Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

*bump*

I'm not sure if this counts as a KDE problem but it's still imposible to emerge kde or anything else graphical (And allot of things that are not graphical) due to the broken dependancy of freetype STILL being broken.
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danarmak · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:37 am Post subject:

bonbons · Apprentice Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 250

Splitting up KDE is a good idea, but from user's point of view maybe partially hard to manage...
Adding an additionnal level to categories could helps getting better overview! A good portage-browser (GUI and Console) could already help, but a long-description field with feature list for ebuilds (with details on related USE flags) could help very much getting the packages for doing what we expect, and knowing which use-flags we need (to avoid 3-lines USE="..." in /etc/make.conf)

I would think of

kde/kde-libs/
kde/kde-grpahics/
kde/kde-develop/
kde/kde-multimedia/
...

same for apache with all its modules or other larget projects with many "sub-ebuilds" or plugins in individual ebuilds.

The ones I can thinks of by now:
kde, gnome, xfce, (other more or less complete desktop environment), apache, gkrellm

Trejkaz · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject:

I assume that kdelibs is still monolithic for the obvious reasons... no point trimming fat that everything uses, right?

Incidentally, how well is "emerge -arts" working this time around? It was promised in 3.3.2 but the KDE team never really delivered on that one... several packages still broke without ARTS present.

Guess I'll find out in the morning. ;-)

danarmak · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject:

iamlarryboy · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:

I am trying to emerge kde-meta but it fails on certmanager with this error:

tlaloctlaloc · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject:

Wouldn't it be a good strategy to copy the meta ebuilds to the portage overlay and comment programs out I do not want in the meta ebuilds to manage the fact that there are now a lot more ebuilds where it is hard to keep the overview? Dependencies are handled right by the real ebuilds, right?

firephoto · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject:

tlaloctlaloc · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:34 am Post subject:

I have emerged some meta-ebuilds including kdm and now I cannot select kde-3.3.1 anymore as session at login. Any idea how to login to my old kde?

iamlarryboy · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:29 am Post subject:

tlaloctlaloc · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:

The session file for kde-3.3.1 is still there and and has the same permissions as the one for kde-3.4, strange.

danarmak · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:46 am Post subject:

tlaloctlaloc · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject:

I actually am staying with 3.3.1 until 3.4 is stable this time, :lol:

which has not installed a desktop file in this directory. But adjusting the one of kde-3.4 to run 3.3.1 worked, thanks.
Bye, Valentin.

DarkStalker · Veteran Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 1032

akregator complains that it can't find the akregator part, which I assume it means the kpart. Similarily, Kontact doesn't show akregator as an available component.

mario · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: How about CVS?

Are we going to see split CVS ebuilds as well? The CVS ebuilds haven't been updated since august, and we have had to modify the startkde patch to get them to work. Will CVS ebuilds will split also or are they abandoned?

DarkStalker · Veteran Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 1032

After unmasking all the 3.4 beta ebuilds (using the quick one-liner mentioned earlier in the thread) and emerging quite a few of them, some individually, some with the meta ebuilds, emerge -uDav takes forever and then spits out this list.

chetan13 · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:41 pm Post subject: