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Keruskerfuerst Advocate
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: Gentoo has it´s own life... [solved] |
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I have the experience, that Gentoo changes/removes packages without user request.
Does have Gentoo its own life?
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Voltago Advocate
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly. All Gentoo machines in the world form something pretty much like SkyNet from Terminator, and every time you turn your back on your machine, it will connect to the grid and take a share of the load of the
Code: | emerge world-domination |
process. Just you wait until it finishes... |
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amne Bodhisattva
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Try emerge -a _________________ Dinosaur week! (Ok, this thread is so last week) |
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Dralnu Veteran
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Gentoo has it�s own life... |
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Keruskerfuerst wrote: | I have the experience, that Gentoo changes/removes packages without user request.
Does have Gentoo its own life? |
Maybe you could give us some more info? _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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Keruskerfuerst Advocate
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: |
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emerge -avuDN world didn´t update any packages, but uninstalled the following:
libgtop, notification-daemon, desktop-file-utils,shared-mime-info,faad2, hicolor-icon-theme
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gst-plugins-base, libgtop, notification-daemon, gst-plugins-good, gst-plugins-x, gst-plugins-esd, gst-plugins-alsa, gst-plugins-vorbis, gst-plugins-gnomevfs, gst-plugins-ogg, gst-plugins-cdparanoia, gst-plugins-pango, gst-plugins-xvideo, gstreamer, librsvg, desktop-file-utils, hal, xorg-server, liboil, libmad, util-linux.
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Dralnu Veteran
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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those with a - infront of them look like USE flags to me.. _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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phsdv Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Keruskerfuerst wrote: | emerge -avuDN world didn´t update any packages, but uninstalled the following:
libgtop, notification-daemon, desktop-file-utils,shared-mime-info,faad2, hicolor-icon-theme | Have a look in /var/log/emerge.log, it will show which options you really did use and what did happen. |
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Keruskerfuerst Advocate
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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emerge -avuDN world. |
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Monkeh Veteran
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Those options will not remove packages. |
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Keruskerfuerst Advocate
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: |
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In fact, this command has removed the above mentioned packages.
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phsdv Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Keruskerfuerst wrote: | emerge -avuDN world. | OK, but what is in emerge.log? |
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Monkeh Veteran
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Keruskerfuerst wrote: | In fact, this command has removed the above mentioned packages.
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Yeah.. no. That command will not remove packages. |
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Keruskerfuerst Advocate
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Relevant part of emerge.log:
1170012411: Started emerge on: Jan 28, 2007 20:26:50
1170012411: *** emerge --ask --update --deep world
1170012419: *** Finished. Cleaning up...
1170012420: === Unmerging... (gnome-base/libgtop-2.14.4)
1170012421: >>> unmerge success: gnome-base/libgtop-2.14.4
1170012421: === Unmerging... (x11-misc/notification-daemon-0.3.5)
1170012422: >>> unmerge success: x11-misc/notification-daemon-0.3.5
1170012422: === Unmerging... (media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.3)
1170012423: >>> unmerge success: media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.3
1170012423: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10.4-r1)
1170012424: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10.4-r1
1170012424: === Unmerging... (media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.8)
1170012425: >>> unmerge success: media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.8
1170012425: === Unmerging... (gnome-base/librsvg-2.16.0)
1170012426: >>> unmerge success: gnome-base/librsvg-2.16.0
1170012426: === Unmerging... (dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.10)
1170012427: >>> unmerge success: dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.10
1170012427: === Unmerging... (x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.8)
1170012427: >>> unmerge success: x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.8
1170012427: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/hal-0.5.7-r3)
1170012428: >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/hal-0.5.7-r3
1170012428: === Unmerging... (x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r1)
1170012430: >>> unmerge success: x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r1
1170012430: === Unmerging... (dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.09)
1170012434: >>> unmerge success: dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.09
1170012434: === Unmerging... (dev-libs/liboil-0.3.6-r1)
1170012435: >>> unmerge success: dev-libs/liboil-0.3.6-r1
1170012435: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10.4)
1170012436: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10.4
1170012436: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-esd-0.10.2)
1170012436: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-esd-0.10.2
1170012436: === Unmerging... (sys-libs/pam-0.78-r3)
1170012437: >>> unmerge success: sys-libs/pam-0.78-r3
1170012437: === Unmerging... (x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.17-r2)
1170012438: >>> unmerge success: x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.17-r2
1170012438: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.4)
1170012439: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.4
1170012439: === Unmerging... (net-libs/libsoup-2.2.98)
1170012440: >>> unmerge success: net-libs/libsoup-2.2.98
1170012440: === Unmerging... (media-libs/faad2-2.0-r11)
1170012440: >>> unmerge success: media-libs/faad2-2.0-r11
1170012440: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.4)
1170012441: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.4
1170012441: === Unmerging... (media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b)
1170012442: >>> unmerge success: media-libs/libmad-0.15.1b
1170012442: === Unmerging... (x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8)
1170012443: >>> unmerge success: x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8
1170012443: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.4)
1170012443: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.4
1170012443: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.4)
1170012444: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.4
1170012444: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.4)
1170012445: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.4
1170012445: === Unmerging... (media-plugins/gst-plugins-pango-0.10.4)
1170012445: >>> unmerge success: media-plugins/gst-plugins-pango-0.10.4
1170012445: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r4)
1170012446: >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r4
1170012446: *** exiting successfully. |
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Monkeh Veteran
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well, for starters, that command isn't the same as what you said you used.
On top of that, portage will not: Only unmerge packages with that command (it will unmerge older versions when updating however), nor do anything without you telling it to. |
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jmbsvicetto Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 4734 Location: Angra do Heroísmo (PT)
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Voltago wrote: | Exactly. All Gentoo machines in the world form something pretty much like SkyNet from Terminator, and every time you turn your back on your machine, it will connect to the grid and take a share of the load of the
Code: | emerge world-domination |
process. Just you wait until it finishes... |
I have to take that to userrel/pr. That's something to add to our world domination conspiracy! _________________ Jorge.
Your twisted, but hopefully friendly daemon.
AMD64 / x86 / Sparc Gentoo
Help answer || emwrap.sh
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Keruskerfuerst Advocate
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Monkeh wrote: | Well, for starters, that command isn't the same as what you said you used. |
Yes, but it is a part of emerge.log, where emerge uninstalled software without request. |
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Monkeh Veteran
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Keruskerfuerst wrote: | Monkeh wrote: | Well, for starters, that command isn't the same as what you said you used. |
Yes, but it is a part of emerge.log, where emerge uninstalled software without request. |
In the last year and a bit, I've used virtually every version of portage, stable and not, and it's never done that to me.. |
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phsdv Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Keruskerfuerst wrote: | Relevant part of emerge.log:
1170012411: Started emerge on: Jan 28, 2007 20:26:50
1170012411: *** emerge --ask --update --deep world
1170012419: *** Finished. Cleaning up...
1170012420: === Unmerging... (gnome-base/libgtop-2.14.4)
1170012421: >>> unmerge success: gnome-base/libgtop-2.14.4
1170012421: === Unmerging... (x11-misc/notification-daemon-0.3.5)
1170012422: >>> unmerge success: x11-misc/notification-daemon-0.3.5
... deleted some lines....
1170012445: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r4)
1170012446: >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r4
1170012446: *** exiting successfully. |
A normal merge and unmerge of an old version is as follows:
Code: | 1169930960: Started emerge on: Jan 27, 2007 21:49:20
1169930961: *** emerge --ask --verbose lm_sensors
1169931200: >>> emerge (1 of 1) sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.1 to /
1169931201: === (1 of 1) Cleaning (sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.1::/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/lm_sensors-2.10.1.ebuild)
1169931202: === (1 of 1) Compiling/Merging (sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.1::/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/lm_sensors-2.10.1.ebuild)
1169931283: >>> AUTOCLEAN: sys-apps/lm_sensors
1169931288: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.0)
1169931298: >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.0
1169931298: === (1 of 1) Post-Build Cleaning (sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.1::/usr/portage/sys-apps/lm_sensors/lm_sensors-2.10.1.ebuild)
1169931298: ::: completed emerge (1 of 1) sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.10.1 to /
1169931298: *** Finished. Cleaning up...
1169931353: *** exiting successfully.
1169931356: *** terminating.
| As you can see the unmerge happens before the "*** Finished. Cleaning up..." line. Your unmerge happens after the line, so something else happens.
A unmerge only "emerge -C" is as follows:
Code: | 1169930454: Started emerge on: Jan 27, 2007 21:40:54
1169930454: *** emerge --ask --verbose unmerge upstart
1169930467: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/upstart-0.3.0)
1169930482: >>> unmerge success: sys-apps/upstart-0.3.0
1169930482: *** exiting successfully.
1169930483: *** terminating. |
There is not even a "*** Finished. Cleaning up..." line in here, so this is also not what happened. So I am lost what is going on on your system.
Are you sure you had not a second session running in parallel? Other option is a buggy ebuild somewhere that is asking for unmerge after cleaning up. But still, I can not imagine how that would work. Last possibility, you are hacked... is there a way to verify your portage is correct? Maybe you should make a quickpacke of portage, reinstall portage and compare with the previous one . |
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Voltago Advocate
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baigsabeeh Guru
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: |
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This is ridiculous. In all my time using Gentoo, this has never happened. I think it has something to do with USE flags as you did use the N option. I just uncommented my USE flags and tried that command and it still won't remove any packages for me, so I still don't know what it is doing for you. _________________ BSD > SysV > Linux
BSD FTW! |
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Monkeh Veteran
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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baigsabeeh wrote: | This is ridiculous. In all my time using Gentoo, this has never happened. I think it has something to do with USE flags as you did use the N option. I just uncommented my USE flags and tried that command and it still won't remove any packages for me, so I still don't know what it is doing for you. |
It's nothing to do with USE flags, I can tell you that much. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Re-emerge portage is what I'd do. Sounds like something got royally screwed on your system. If that doesn't help, I'd see about submitting a bug _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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The last time this happened to me was when I turned off my computer in the middle of a merge and it automatically cleaned the un-needed and old leftover packages. _________________ I'm too lazy to keep this stupid signature up to date, so here's something more interesting:
My friend Hetdegon can draw if you ask me.
Now using PClinuxOS on my laptop and Gentoo on my desktop and new laptop. |
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Keruskerfuerst Advocate
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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the following commands have solved the problem:
emerge -avuDN world
emerge --depclean
revdep-rebuild
emerge -e world |
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