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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thesimp wrote:
The KDE crash panel complains that it cannot create a valid backtrace, but it managed to come up with this:
Code:
#0  0x715c8b50 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x70898218 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler ()
   from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#2  0x715c7854 in __pthread_clock_settime () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x715c7854 in __pthread_clock_settime () from /lib/libpthread.so.0


Let's see if I can find out why the crash panel cannot make a valid backtrace.


I have got the same problem on a Ultra-Sparc-60 with 2x450MHz, a gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.10 and a kde 3.3.2

Did somebody try to compile and run KDE with debug-symbols ?

Tobias

PS: I am close to type "emerge gnome xscreensaver" :(
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just wondering, are all of you having problems on SMP boxes or
are any of them single processor machines? The problem seems to have
something to do with the clock and threading and I'm wondering if it's because
code that is not really thread safe, but acts like it is on a single cpu system,
is used in the kicker somewhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sparc u30 with uni processor, so I think there is no connection to SMP kernel.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uniprocessor Ultra10 here.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My E250 breaks, but my E450 works fine...strace and gdb don't give any good info...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, after the latest qt upgrade (3.3.4 over 3.3.3), kicker now crashes on my e450 as well. I'm trying to back up to 3.3.3 to see if that corrects the situation. If not, maybe the issue lies with gcc?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Downgrading qt did not help at all... maybe its time to compile qt and kde with all the debugging options enabled/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI: A different `kicker' problem may have been solved
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2148221.html#2148221
by emerging.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I added the USE flags "debug kdeenablefinal" and re-emerged
x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r2
kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r2
kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r1

and now kicker is working again!

If anyone wants a binary package of these 3, I can put it up someplace.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, after following your instructions, kicker still crashes on my Ultra2.
Very Sad. I gave up and deleted all traces of kde from my system. I will try again
in a few months. Hopefully I can get some semblance of sound support working in
the meantime. I'd also like to get openoffice to work one of these days, it always
fails during compiling saying that the java VM detected an error in the external
code.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:08 pm    Post subject: KDE Fubar Reply with quote

I had exactly the same issue on my Ultra 10. Bug soup at best. KDE is definetly problematic on Sparc. I messed around with it for over a month before giving up and loading up Black Box as a alternative.

I don't know a ton about desktops, but is there another full featured desktop similar to KDE that actually runs on a sparc?

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have just successfully compiled and installed KDE 3.4.0 on a few SPARC64 machines (Ultra 5 / Ultra 10) using gcc-3.3.5 and the kicker crash is now officially a non-issue.

My suggestion is to upgrade to 3.4.0
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Risk wrote:
Have just successfully compiled and installed KDE 3.4.0 on a few SPARC64 machines (Ultra 5 / Ultra 10) using gcc-3.3.5 and the kicker crash is now officially a non-issue.

My suggestion is to upgrade to 3.4.0


Did an "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~sparc emerge kde" and I also have the kicker problem, so it's no quite resolved yet :)

I tried Weeve's suggestion to disable the sound system in KDE: kicker still crashes.
I also tried to disable the applets on the kicker in $HOME/.kde/share/config/kickerrc, but there were no applets listed there.

Should I try to install a kernel from the 2.6.x branch? I heard that Weeve did not have this problem then...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: kde 3.4 emerge Reply with quote

I just did an emerge sync. 3.4 is not there in emerge -pv kde. How do i point it to 3.4??


Jordan
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~sparc emerge kde" did the trick for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Should I try to install a kernel from the 2.6.x branch? I heard that Weeve did not have this problem then...


I ought to have specified that we're using 2.6.10-r6 and 2.6.11-r4 kernels (in instances where the kicker crash problem has been resolved running kde 3.4.0)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Problem with kicker Reply with quote

Let me start off - DUAL processor Ultra 60
Kernel 2.4.29



Kicker crashes on startup, konqueror crashes when logging in to yahoo mail. Mozilla works fine

got this from kicker from the console, hope this sheads some light

kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from
/var/tmp/kdecache-root/ksycoca
X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
operation) 2
Major opcode: 102
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x0
X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
operation) 2
Major opcode: 102
Minor opcode: 0
Resource id: 0x0
kicker: *** Embed 4194315 into 31457453. window=0
kicker: > before reparent: parent=0x2b
kicker: > Loop 0: > reparent of 0x40000b into
0x1e000ad successful
kicker: *** Embed 27262983 into 31457455. window=0
kicker: > before reparent: parent=0x2b
kicker: > Loop 0: > reparent of 0x1a00007 into
0x1e000af successful
kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): Creating KConfigSkeleton
(0x15bee0)
kdecore (KConfigSkeleton):
KConfigSkeleton::readConfig()
ERROR: Communication problem with kicker, it probably
crashed.
bash-2.05b#
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kicker still crashes on my Sun Netra T1125 when switching from 2.4.x to 2.6.x. This is the same motherboard as the Ultra 60 if I'm correct.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent all this time upgrading kde to 3.4 and the problem is still there. The only new development is you can almost see the panel start to appear before it dies.




The question stands.


Is there anyone out there with an Ultra60 that can run kde 3.3 or kde 3.4? What kernel do you use? If its 2.6, how did you get the mouse to work.

im so annoyed

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every applet seems to work fine except for the clock applet, it may be causing the problem as i posted in the chatroom and bug #77623.



I have tested every applet individually and they all work except for one..

The clock applet... see snipplet>

bash-2.05b# appletproxy /usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/kicker/applets/clockapplet.desktop
kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): Creating KConfigSkeleton
(0x141cf0)
kdecore (KConfigSkeleton):
KConfigSkeleton::readConfig()
Bus error
bash-2.05b#

I have the strace for the clock applet but it is really big. Where should i post it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the exact same results as squash: recompiling qt, kdelibs, and kdebase with USE="debug kdeenablefinal" did the trick. I now have a working kicker.

[EDIT:] But, alas, my lowercase B key aint workin .. heh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For giggles, I figured I'd start recompiling the three of those without USE="debug"

Results:

After compiling qt with debugging off, I now have the return of the kicker crashing scenario.

(hmm)


[EDIT:] had to put 'b'-s in there ..
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okie dokie. I recompiled QT again. This time, I didn't reintroduce the DEBUG flag, I just changed C(XX)FLAGS from:

Code:
-O2 -mcpu=ultrapsarc -pipe


to

Code:
-O -pipe


Kicker works. This is making me wonder if we have a GCC issue going on here.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've recompiled qt with C(XX)FLAGS"-O2 -pipe" and all three qt, kdeliBs, kdeBase with USE="-deBug -kdeenaBlefinal" .. and .. still have a working kicker.

Seems that the whole issue revolves around compiling QT with the -mcpu=ultrapsarc flag. So for a working kicker, all you have to do is recompile QT without the -mcpu flag, and you're good to go.

I'm not sure yet if lesser values of -mcpu work yet, But it does seem to me that the qt eBuild should Be masking at the very least -mcpu=ultrasparc.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you try -mtune=ultrasparc instead of -mcpu=ultrasparc?
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