HOWTO: Enabling Japanese (or: CJK in KDE & Gnome)

liuspider · Apprentice Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 237

that's largely caused by incompatible C++ ABI, which beyond our control

but if anything app has a problem with the gtk im module, you can just use xim im module, details

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yaneurabeya · Veteran Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1754 Location: Seattle

Really? glibc reports a bunch of errant free() errors, so it looks like a few malloc() / free() pair of calls gone bad. Might be something completely out of the SCIM dev's control though...

lo-jay · l33t Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 862

o.k.
did set up scim & the locales on my (non kde ) system.
when i try to start scim from a console i get

yaneurabeya · Veteran Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1754 Location: Seattle

Prolly have to add the locale to the locales file somewhere in the /etc folder (I forget where exactly) and recompile glibc and all related programs since you used the userlocales USE flag with glibc and had a shortened (deleted Japanese locale codes) locales list from the default.

lo-jay · l33t Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 862

well, my locales look like this now

liuspider · Apprentice Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 237

please consult this

btw: as you are trying to use Chinese, you may want to post in the Chinese forum
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lo-jay · l33t Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 862

i did follow this wiki, but no success till now.

but you're right, will move to the chinese forum.

thanks!
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yaneurabeya · Veteran Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1754 Location: Seattle

You mistyped your locales...

valuial · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 85

Hi there.

I tried to install skim and the like on my own, and during the process (I used some Versions not yet in portage) got the thing working when starting scim manually... So I tried to configure my system to start the necessary things automatically ... and failed.

After cleaning my system from my futile attemps I tried it following this howto.
It works with firefox. But not with kwrite for example (haven't tested too many apps but kde-apps as well as a certain qt-app were not successful).

my /etc/env.d/02locale:

yaneurabeya · Veteran Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1754 Location: Seattle

You forgot that you have to recompile QT to get Japanese support

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valuial · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 85

I did

fctk · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject:

I read the Japanese fonts' related part (I'm not interested in input, I just want to see japanese text in firefox :lol:

) so... do I need to recompile everything with the cjk use flag?

G2k · l33t Joined: 06 Mar 2004 Posts: 672 Location: Rome, Italy

I think that if you follow this guide you should be pretty much set. And you should emerge a couple of Japanese fonts just in case.

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Mi sono accorto che sei Italiano dopo aver scritto il post. :wink:

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yaneurabeya · Veteran Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1754 Location: Seattle

All you really need is the nls (non-Latin script I believe) flag and the cjk/unicode flags, plus the proper locale setup. The rest is just extra fluff for 'improved' interfacing for the user.

All I can say is that I love my Mac's Japanese input system

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kimchi_sg · Advocate Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 2968

fctk · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:04 am Post subject:

yaneurabeya · Veteran Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 1754 Location: Seattle

fctk · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject:

k... so no need to recompile. i suggest to revise the layout of the first post...

it would be even better to copy this howto on gentoo-wiki if it isn't already there...

valuial · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Posts: 85

Writing my last Mail I came upon another curious behaviour:
KMail as well as KEdit, but not KWrite have an context menu to select an Input Method.
Whenever I select XIM the japanese input works (I even can select keyboard, UIM-anthy etc. using the skim taskbar tool),
but when I select "simple composing input method" I only get the latin writing.

Any sugesstions to get scim working?

-V-

PS: I did recompile qt as suggested above.

frostschutz · Advocate Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 2977 Location: Germany

Thanks for this HOWTO. Input seems to work somehow (although I haven't yet figured out when/why that scim button keeps (dis)appearing randomly). However, I can't get it to work together with xterm properly. Does any of you use Japanese / UTF8 in xterm?

My xterm detects multi-byte characters correctly and all, but it just prints an empty box instead of the actual letter. So I guess it's a font issue. So I tried changing the font to "Arial Unicode MS" or to "Bitstream Cyberbit" (some of the fonts that I think are used by and work well in Firefox).

This works only partially, meaning: The Japanese letters are displayed correctly, but there are many side effects (bad redrawing of letters; big spaces between normal roman letters; etc.) that make it unusable. :cry:

Does any of you have a terminal emulator configuration that displays normal text and japanese perfectly

EDIT: Got it working in xterm and urxvt, with these settings. I think the important ones are utf8 and font. The fonts have to be installed, I guess (I just emerged all fonts portage had to offer).

branana · n00b Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 29

Guys, I have followed the guide. I think I have problems with the /etc/xprofile part. Because when I do startx, xprofile doesn't seem to be checked. echo $GTK_IM_MODULE does nothing.

I use startx to get into xfce4 4.2. I don't use Gnome or KDE.

When I try something like, gaim, typing a new message. The SCIM icon does not automatically come up in the tray. If I manually start "scim" from terminal, it comes up in the tray but I cannot left-click it to select any input methods or anything. Please help!!

frostschutz · Advocate Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 2977 Location: Germany

I don't have a /etc/xprofile either - if I remember correctly, it works only with a certain window / login manager (kde/kdm or gnome, I don't remember). Anyway, I'm using xdm and fluxbox; to make things work, I just put the stuff into my home profile and load it in ~/.fluxbox/startup.

Also, after following the guide, for some strange reason not all scim input modules were installed, and scim didn't work with kate. So I manually emerged /usr/portage/app-i18n/scim* (filtering out the masked packages), which solved the problem. I guess I'm missing a kde use flag or something that caused it not to be installed properly in the first place. (I have kde installed for a couple of kde apps like kate or kmail only).

eealex · n00b Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 65 Location: Japan

brjames · n00b Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 52

I have the same problem as valuial...

As far as i know everything has been recompiled and what not, but skim (or scim or whatever) just doesnt work with most kde programs. Cntrl-Space does nothing... Left click on the skim icon does nothing until i input into a gtk program...

Has anybody gotten skim to work completely with KDE?

brjames · n00b Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 52

OMFG!!!! I am so pissed at what the solution is...

If anybody else is having the same problem as me or visualize, the solution is the following: