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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the proper way to install the nitro sources?
My current kernel is gentoo-dev-sources 2.6.9-r6.
Is this the correct method:

emerge development-sources
link /usr/src/linux to development-sources
emerge nitro-sources
link /usr/src/linux to nitro-sources

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work seppe.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PredatorX wrote:
Thanks for the tip. I might try it later because I got supermount working. Do you know if this also solves the problem with mounting usb-sticks several times, so it will appear as the same device?

I don't know about this, never had this problem.

PredatorX wrote:
I don't know what you meen with userspace, is that just plain user functionality, like I don't have to fiddle with /etc/fstab?

I mean that it doesn't need/depends on anything particular in the kernel (ie you don't need a patch).

It use other daemons/libraries (DBUS & HAL) that monitor /sys and when some change is detected a script is runned, ivman in this case, which in turn mounts the changed device according to fstab and configuration.

Your fstab looks like there's no automounting stuff going on... just as it would look if you managed to mount/umount your devices by hand.

The crucial difference over supermount and the like is that the mount doesn't occur when the mount point is accessed, instead it's done when the media/device is changed/inserted, and because of this it depends on devices which generate notifications to the system when events occur, hence it's not appliable to floppy drives, but that is hardly used lately.

When ivman receives a notification of some changed device, it looks if the device appears on fstab, if that's the case then it runs mount <device> just as you would by hand.

Of course you can customize which devices you want automounted, etc...

You probably should check it out, works great.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

urfage wrote:
What is the proper way to install the nitro sources?

@ your own risk:
in /etc/make.conf add:
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
add:"/usr/local/portage" (create it!)
then go on.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, when i emerge nitro-sources does nitro patched the used kernel or does he takes the 2.6.9?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

err both?
it is using /usr/src~/linux
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, i have emerged it an i can't find reiser4 anymore, but i have the most recent Nitro :S but with an MM 2.6.10-rc2-r4 kernel. Isn't that o.k.?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M@rijn wrote:
Ok, i have emerged it an i can't find reiser4 anymore, but i have the most recent Nitro :S but with an MM 2.6.10-rc2-r4 kernel. Isn't that o.k.?
disable 4k stacks
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great job seppe, this is my first experience and I really love nitro! I have 3 comments.

1. I am still having problems w/ ndiswrapper even with 0.12 . I believe it has been established that the problem is with swsuspend and I have swsuspend disabled because I do not use that feature. In the thread for 2.6.9nitro3 they said the problem was fixed with 0.12rc and it seems like the patch made it through to the 0.12 release. The patched code is here:
Code:
        *phandle = kthread_run(kthread_trampoline, ctx,
#ifdef CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND2
                               0,
#endif
                               "ndiswrapper");


and the error when compiling is:
Code:
/root/ndiswrapper-0.12/driver/ntoskernel.c:747:24: macro "kthread_run" requires 5 arguments, but only 3 given


2. I think it would be really cool if the patches were broken up and zipped up and distributed that way. Then the ebuild could be modified to use USE flags to determine which patches get applied. This could allow everyone to avoid problems like the one w/ 'ndiswrapper' in the future, as well as have more control when "rolling your own".

Example: # USE="-swsuspend -win4lin +reiser4 +ck" emerge nitro-sources

3. Could you fix the 403 errors on the broken out patches on your site?

Thanks again, and keep up the good work :)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

urfage wrote:

2. I think it would be really cool if the patches were broken up and zipped up and distributed that way. Then the ebuild could be modified to use USE flags to determine which patches get applied. This could allow everyone to avoid problems like the one w/ 'ndiswrapper' in the future, as well as have more control when "rolling your own".

Example: # USE="-swsuspend -win4lin +reiser4 +ck" emerge nitro-sources

That's a very good idea, but it's a bit tricky. There's a file called series, and patches need to be applied in a specific order, or something could fail.

Rolling own patchset isn't that hard, just give it a try ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1. I am still having problems w/ ndiswrapper even with 0.12 . I believe it has been established that the problem is with swsuspend and I have swsuspend disabled because I do not use that feature. In the thread for 2.6.9nitro3 they said the problem was fixed with 0.12rc and it seems like the patch made it through to the 0.12 release. The patched code is here:
Code:
*phandle = kthread_run(kthread_trampoline, ctx,
#ifdef CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND2
0,
#endif
"ndiswrapper");


and the error when compiling is:
Code:
/root/ndiswrapper-0.12/driver/ntoskernel.c:747:24: macro "kthread_run" requires 5 arguments, but only 3 given

I renamed ndiswrapper 0.11 to 0.12 and did an ebuild ndiswrapper-0.12.ebuild digest and everything is working fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sory but are there people here who has problems with the ipw2200 driver compiling for nitro?? I have
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump :?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry for bumping, just wanted to thank the nitro sources` developers for bringing this ultimate patchset to my box. great work !
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

while we are at it again:
4kstacks is OK for nvidia, unfortunately not for alsa-drivers, which compile fine using ~x86
you will receive a kernel oops at startup!
so i am just wondering.. does anyone have any benefits using 4kstacks at all?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M@rijn wrote:
bump :?

no need to bump this thread just 26hours later, if noone is able to answer your question. this sux! learn to be patient.
thx
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

urfage wrote:
2. I think it would be really cool if the patches were broken up and zipped up and distributed that way. Then the ebuild could be modified to use USE flags to determine which patches get applied. This could allow everyone to avoid problems like the one w/ 'ndiswrapper' in the future, as well as have more control when "rolling your own".

Example: # USE="-swsuspend -win4lin +reiser4 +ck" emerge nitro-sources
See my sig for just such a kernel. ;) I don't have a lot of patches in there yet, but it will get there.

Of course, you are welcome to take any patchset released on the forums and modify it, just as long as you give credit to the original patchset releasers. :D
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i thought i'd try this out, i normally use love-sources but realised i did so for no particular reason so might as well try others. however i can no longer emerge nvidia-kernel due to a sanity check to do with rivafb being enabled.

I've checked in the kernel config and cannot find rivafb enabled anywhere, any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hds wrote:

so i am just wondering.. does anyone have any benefits using 4kstacks at all?

ive done quite a bit of reading on the topic, and in most cases the benefits are pointless
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:41 am    Post subject: Highmem Reply with quote

MrApples wrote:
hds wrote:

so i am just wondering.. does anyone have any benefits using 4kstacks at all?

ive done quite a bit of reading on the topic, and in most cases the benefits are pointless


For 4k stacks to be helpful you need to be running a machine with more than 4Gb of ram.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Highmem Reply with quote

bollucks wrote:
MrApples wrote:
hds wrote:

so i am just wondering.. does anyone have any benefits using 4kstacks at all?

ive done quite a bit of reading on the topic, and in most cases the benefits are pointless


For 4k stacks to be helpful you need to be running a machine with more than 4Gb of ram.


I thought there were meant to be some general benefits - basically less data to move about? It's not that significant a factor, but hey.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Highmem Reply with quote

Archangel1 wrote:
bollucks wrote:
MrApples wrote:
hds wrote:

so i am just wondering.. does anyone have any benefits using 4kstacks at all?

ive done quite a bit of reading on the topic, and in most cases the benefits are pointless


For 4k stacks to be helpful you need to be running a machine with more than 4Gb of ram.


I thought there were meant to be some general benefits - basically less data to move about? It's not that significant a factor, but hey.


Nope; apart from the eliteness factor and testing 4kb kernels, you derive precisely zero benefit without massive amounts of ram.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see the orinoco patch put back in. Doesn't cause any harm and saves me trouble =)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd like to see the orinoco patch put back in. Doesn't cause any harm and saves me trouble =)
i think seppe provided it separately, he was going for a more stripped down nitro, so patches like orinoco can be added if needed by the user
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want the latest alsa and also some other drivers that i need for my new motherboard! can anyone tell me how i can patch the kernel using the latest alsa 1.0.7 ? Right now i am using the emerge alsa-driver but it sucks sounds like crap on my comp!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Seppe, I'm back ;).

Great job on these nitros. They run great.

Robin79:
Go to ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/kernel-patches/ and download the latest kernel patch, bunzip and patch the kernel just like you do with the nitro patch. It looks like the latest was created on 11/17.
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