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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:20 pm    Post subject: Just won a 400mhz ultra5... what keyboard? Reply with quote

...on ebay. Looking forward to getting it. Just a quick though. I take it from previous posts ive read these machines dont take standard ps2 type keyboards? Or do they? Will i need a sun keyboard?

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-John
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nevermind, checked it out. ill use a null modem cable for now. cheers.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sun type 5

Best to you

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: keyboard Reply with quote

I found the best way, with a view to maybe getting more sun's in the future that are this old (i have an ultra 10), is to get a standard kvm switch and a cable that turns the ps/2 keyboard and mouse (coming out of the switch) into the 8 pin din that the sun takes. i got my stuff (both made by adder) from www.kvmchoice.co.uk. if you're not in the uk then that probably won't help but you may be able to see the stuff you need.

hope this helps

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying that a PC KB and mouse data are the same as what is output by a sun type5 KB with the mouse attached?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi mike

no, its not (and god did i find out when i set my kbmap to us :( ). the adaptor makes the changes to the codes rather than being a straight physical adaptor so, for example, hotkeys are automatically setup that the adaptor converts into sun kb codes for things like 'cut', 'paste' and 'power'.

i just thought this was an easier solution, i.e. making the switch (no pun intended) now since the kboards aren't being produced anymore (at least according to sun uk).

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recieved my U5 today, just waiting for my keyboard and mouse now. (hopefully tomorrow).

Surprised to learn it has an extra 10/100BaseT/MII network card in there, which i was unaware of.

Just out of curiosity though... with no peripherals attached, it shouldn't boot up right? i need either keyboard/mouse/monitor or a null modem cable attached?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck me, its not got a CPU module in it. Time to kick some ebay ass.

--John :twisted:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just contacted them, they're sendin a replacement CPU by next day delivery... which is nice of them like. Still, woulda prefered it there in the first place.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity though... with no peripherals attached, it shouldn't boot up right? i need either keyboard/mouse/monitor or a null modem cable attached?

Generaly, if there isn't a KB attached the box will goto the serial port on the Sun boxes, at least my IPX, SS20, SS1000, and U5 all do if I don't have the KB attached.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, without peripherals it should still boot up using the serial port as the console. You just won't see anything without a null modem cable attached. I guess that's how ppl run headless.

But I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I could be wrong.

but you aren't - thats absolutely right.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, just to round things off my U5 cpu arrived a week or so ago and everythings working perfectly. Its running 2.6 gentoo right now and acting as my router. Gunna setup some more services in a bit.

Just a thought though; is it safe to replace the front case fan in these U5's? Its very noisy. I ordered a new silent one but i dont think it pushes as much CFM. How hot do these pups get?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well my U5's stuffed full of stuff...

second had disk (SCSI) sort of suspended above the card slot next to the PSU,
floppy drive removed and replaced with DDS 3 SCSI tape drive
CDROM
Adaptec SCSI card
Belkin USB card
NetGear Wireles NIC

All that lot must be reducing the air flow quite a lot, and it doesn't get above luke warm round the back fan, so I'd be tempted to try it.
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