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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:25 pm    Post subject: BIND don't want to answer Reply with quote

Hi i trie everything but the sver keep silence.

Situation:
I got a server running gentoo. This server got samba, ftp, dns, web, mail. This is on a simple network in the 192.168.0.0 range. I also got an other server for internet: firewall web caching and DHCP : a smoothwall ditro.

Here is my machine:

NT4 domain controler: master (PDC)
domain name: projet.qc.ca
server: gentoo
name: poney.projet.qc.ca
ip: 192.168.0.2

server: smoothwall
name: gate.projet.qc.ca
ip : 192.168.0.1

The problem is: my dns don't answer, it just mirror me the question.

here is the config:

named.conf:
Code:
options {
   directory "/var/bind";

   // uncomment the following lines to turn on DNS forwarding,
   // and change the forwarding ip address(es) :
   //forward first;
   //forwarders {
   //   192.219.64.2;
   //   123.123.123.123;
   //};

   //listen-on-v6 { none; };
        //listen-on { 127.0.0.1;192.168.0.2;};

   // to allow only specific hosts to use the DNS server:
   //allow-query {
   //   127.0.0.1;
   //};

   // if you have problems and are behind a firewall:
   //query-source address * port 53;
   pid-file "/var/run/named/named.pid";
};

zone "." IN {
   type hint;
   file "named.ca";
};

zone "localhost" IN {
   type master;
   file "pri/localhost.zone";
   allow-update { none; };
   notify no;
};

zone "127.in-addr.arpa" IN {
   type master;
   file "pri/127.zone";
   allow-update { none; };
   notify no;
};

zone "projet.qc.ca"{
   type master;
   file "named.ca.qc.projet";
};

zone "0.168.192.in-addr.arpa"{
   type master;
   file "revp.192.168.0";
};


named.ca.qc.projet
Code:

;$ORIGIN  projet.qc.ca.
;$TTL 1D
@   IN SOA   poney.projet.qc.ca.   hostmaster.projet.qc.ca. (
   2004101801   ;   serial
   8H      ;   refresh
   4H      ;   entry
   4W      ;   expire
   1D      ;   minimum
)
   IN   NS   poney.projet.qc.ca.
   IN   MX   poney.projet.qc.ca.
www   IN   CNAME   poney
mail   IN   CNAME   poney
ftp   IN   CNAME   poney

localhost   IN   A   127.0.0.1
gate      IN   A   192.168.0.1
poney      IN   A   192.168.0.2


revp.192.168.0
Code:

;$ORIGIN 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa.
;$TTL 1D
@   IN SOA   poney.projet.qc.ca. hostmaster.projet.qc.ca.(
   2004101801   ;   serial
   28800      ;   refresh
   14400      ;   retry
   2419200      ;   expire
   866400      ;   minimum
)

   IN   NS   poney.projet.qc.ca.
//chiffre dans l'Adresse 192.168.0.*
1   IN   PTR   gate.projet.qc.ca.
2   IN   PTR   poney.projet.qc.ca.


127.zone
Code:

$ORIGIN 127.in-addr.arpa.
$TTL 1W
@   1D IN SOA   poney.projet.qc.ca. root.poney.projet.qc.ca. (      
               2002081601   ; serial
               3H      ; refresh
               15M      ; retry
               1W      ; expiry
               1D )      ; minimum

         1D IN NS   poney.projet.qc.ca.
*         1D IN PTR   localhost.


localhost.zone
Code:

$TTL 1W
@       IN      SOA     ns.localhost. root.localhost.  (
                                      2002081601 ; Serial
                                      28800      ; Refresh
                                      14400      ; Retry
                                      604800     ; Expire - 1 week
                                      86400 )    ; Minimum
      IN      NS      ns
localhost.   IN   A   127.0.0.1


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two questions.

1. Are you allowing incoming and outgoing DNS from the server? look for tcp/udp port 53

2. Is bind running on the external interface? netstat -ptln should show you which IP's it's bound to.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes everything is ok. Bind is set to listen on all interface.
And hrm ok It does respond in fact. sorry. my mistake: the anser is:
Code:

poney@root# dig @192.168.0.2 poney.projet.qc.ca

; <<>> DiG 9.2.4rc5 <<>> @192.168.0.2 poney.projet.qc.ca
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 63341
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;poney.projet.qc.ca.            IN      A

;; Query time: 3 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.0.2#53(192.168.0.2)
;; WHEN: Wed Oct 27 14:47:30 2004
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 36
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the DNS addresses my clients is having:
192.168.0.2
192.219.64.2
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bind log is usually pretty helpful in finding first time errors. What does it say when bind starts up?

Also where are your config files? are the zone files in /var/bind and /var/bind/pri like you have indicated?

Do you have a named.ca file with the root hint servers?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobspangle wrote:
the bind log is usually pretty helpful in finding first time errors. What does it say when bind starts up?

Also where are your config files? are the zone files in /var/bind and /var/bind/pri like you have indicated?

Do you have a named.ca file with the root hint servers?

there is no log in /var/log or i don't know at all where the logs is in bind9
Yes all the file is at the right place.
I did a named-checkconf : all ok. I did a named-checkzone and it says:
Code:

zone /var/bind/named.ca.qc.projet/IN: loading master file projet.qc.ca: file not found.

so why does it ask for a directory? does bind9 work with directory hierarchy to build the zone? cause all the doc i readed was just creating a file for the zone, not a directory with sub file.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been meaning to post this for awhile. Let's call it Kashani's Ultimate Bind Logging Config. This will do several things, namely keep a bunch of nonsense out of /var/log/messages, splits things up so you can find different logs easily, and auto rotates each log at 5MB, 5m, and keep three logs around, versions 3.

1. mkdir /var/log/named
2. chown named: /var/log/named/
3. Add the following to your /etc/bind/named.conf after the ending }; for the options part.

Code:

logging {

  channel default_file { file "/var/log/named/default.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel general_file { file "/var/log/named/general.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel database_file { file "/var/log/named/database.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel security_file { file "/var/log/named/security.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel config_file { file "/var/log/named/config.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel resolver_file { file "/var/log/named/resolver.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel xfer-in_file { file "/var/log/named/xfer-in.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel xfer-out_file { file "/var/log/named/xfer-out.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel notify_file { file "/var/log/named/notify.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel client_file { file "/var/log/named/client.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel unmatched_file { file "/var/log/named/unmatched.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel queries_file { file "/var/log/named/queries.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel network_file { file "/var/log/named/network.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel update_file { file "/var/log/named/update.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel dispatch_file { file "/var/log/named/dispatch.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel dnssec_file { file "/var/log/named/dnssec.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };
  channel lame-servers_file { file "/var/log/named/lame-servers.log" versions 3 size 5m; severity dynamic; print-time yes; };

  category default { default_file; };
  category general { general_file; };
  category database { database_file; };
  category security { security_file; };
  category config { config_file; };
  category resolver { resolver_file; };
  category xfer-in { xfer-in_file; };
  category xfer-out { xfer-out_file; };
  category notify { notify_file; };
  category client { client_file; };
  category unmatched { unmatched_file; };
  category queries { queries_file; };
  category network { network_file; };
  category update { update_file; };
  category dispatch { dispatch_file; };
  category dnssec { dnssec_file; };
  category lame-servers { lame-servers_file; };

};


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I added your config to named.conf.
not log file were created.
i modified my zone files to try some other syntax. Is there standard syntax in bind? everyone seem to write it differently. I'm all lost.
now it don't start. I think the problem is somewhere else. whene i do restart i got [!!] and an error: named already started. It don't answer anymore (timeout) and it's not listed in netstats since I have installed qmail following this guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml
it was at least mirroring the question before.

here is the name info on the server:

dnsdomainname: projet.qc.ca
hostname: poney
resolv.conf: nameserver 192.168.0.2

named.ca.qc.projet
Code:

$TTL 1D
projet.qc.ca   IN SOA   poney.   hostmaster.projet.qc.ca.
(
   2004102801   ;   serial
   8H      ;   refresh
   4H      ;   entry
   4W      ;   expire
   1D      ;   minimum
)
projet.qc.ca.   IN   NS   poney.
projet.qc.ca.   IN   MX   poney.
www   IN   CNAME   poney
mail   IN   CNAME   poney
ftp   IN   CNAME   poney

localhost   IN   A   127.0.0.1
gate      IN   A   192.168.0.1
poney      IN   A   192.168.0.2


revp.0.168.192
Code:

$TTL 1D
0.168.192.in-addr.arpa.   IN SOA   poney.   hostmaster.projet.qc.ca. (
   2004102801   ;   serial
   28800      ;   refresh
   14400      ;   retry
   2419200      ;   expire
   866400      ;   minimum
)

1.168.192.in-addr.arpa.   IN   NS   poney.

1.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa.   IN   PTR   gate.
2.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa.   IN   PTR   poney.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bind might have crashed at some point. Try this to make sure it's not running at all.

/etc/init.d/named stop
/etc/init.d/named zap

Now run this command to check your config
named-checkconf

Now run this to check each of your zones
named-checkzone zonename /path/to/filename

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok everythink back to normal. server is starting as before. and listning on the interfaces. Just a reboot got it working. Working more on file syntax: i got the arpa to work. now i get an answer when i do "dig -x 192.168.0.2" which give "poney.". Isn't supposed to return poney.projet.qc.ca?
i runned checkconf. it's perefectly clean. however checkzone give lot of error. How can i fix that? This sort of config was work perfectly clean on other machine.
like where do i only write the name and where do i write de name.domain? where do i put a "." at the end?

checkzone result:
zone projet.qc.ca
Code:
dns_rdata_fromtext: /var/bind/named.ca.qc.projet:2: near eol: unexpected end of input
dns_master_load: /var/bind/named.ca.qc.projet:4: unknown RR type '4H'
dns_rdata_fromtext: /var/bind/named.ca.qc.projet:11: near 'poney.': not a valid number
zone projet.qc.ca/IN: loading master file /var/bind/named.ca.qc.projet: unexpected end of input

zone 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa.
Code:
dns_rdata_fromtext: /var/bind/revp.192.168.0:2: near eol: unexpected end of input
dns_master_load: /var/bind/revp.192.168.0:3: ignoring out-of-zone data (hostmaster.projet.qc.ca)
dns_master_load: /var/bind/revp.192.168.0:3: unknown RR type '28800'
zone 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading master file /var/bind/revp.192.168.0: unexpected end of input


ho and the log finally showed something. thanks to your little modif. it's cleanner to see.

general.log:
Code:
Oct 28 10:32:09.495 zone 127.in-addr.arpa/IN: loaded serial 2002081601
Oct 28 10:32:09.495 dns_rdata_fromtext: revp.192.168.0:2: near eol: unexpected end of input
Oct 28 10:32:09.496 zone 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading master file revp.192.168.0: unexpected end of input
Oct 28 10:32:09.496 dns_rdata_fromtext: named.ca.qc.projet:2: near eol: unexpected end of input
Oct 28 10:32:09.496 zone projet.qc.ca/IN: loading master file named.ca.qc.projet: unexpected end of input
Oct 28 10:32:09.497 zone localhost/IN: loaded serial 2002081601
Oct 28 10:32:09.497 running
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gabio wrote:
now i get an answer when i do "dig -x 192.168.0.2" which give "poney.". Isn't supposed to return poney.projet.qc.ca?
i runned checkconf. it's perefectly clean. however checkzone give lot of error. How can i fix that? This sort of config was work perfectly clean on other machine.
like where do i only write the name and where do i write de name.domain? where do i put a "." at the end?


Put a . on the end and put the full hostname in the reverse zonefile, revp.0.168.192. BIND just returns whatever is in that file, it doesn't even have to be a valid DNS name (although invalid characters will probably make it choke) so you need to put the full FQDN.

You might get rid of some errors by specifying the TTL in the SOA line like you do in the 127.zone file. BIND 9 onwards expect either to have the TTL here or a TTL in with every record (which you don't have).
Code:

@   1D IN SOA   poney.projet.qc.ca. root.poney.projet.qc.ca. ( 


Hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
Now the only error remaning:

unexpected end of input

What does this mean.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible reason:

IN MX poney.projet.qc.ca.

The MX records need a priority number, so if you have several then it puts them in order of which should be tried first. Try changing that line to:

IN MX 10 poney.projet.qc.ca.

If that doesn't fix it can you post the entire zone-file the error is about.
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