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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:33 pm    Post subject: Creative Live! 5.1 Digital with ALL speakers? Reply with quote

Hello,

I would like to ask, does anyone of you manage to be able to setup your dolby surround soundcard to use all speakers?

I have a Create Live! 5.1 Digital sound card with an analog dolby surround system... works perfectly under Windows after I install the drivers, before I install them, it just uses the front-left and front-right speaker only (no center speaker, no rear speaker and no subwoofer) ... just the same thing for Linux. And no Linux drivers for this card from creative either...

Anyone has any idea?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2002 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are using analog out to your amp/speakers go into alsamixer to the last slider and mute that puppy(type 'm'). If you dont have alsa installed yet just
Code:
emerge media-libs/alsa-lib media-sound/alsa-driver media-sound/alsa-tools media-sound/alsa-utils media-sound/alsaplayer

then edit /etc/modules.d/alsa

change part of it to:
alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
and uncomment alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

and then:
Code:
rc-update add alsasound boot


(I havnt tried dgital out yet, im too poor).

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2002 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that will make my sound go out to all the 3 channels instead of just 1?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes!

Im sure there is a better (more thorough) tutorial for alsa somewhere. if my instructions dont make sense...

have fun...

oh ya, to get 5.1 to work you must recompile xine after alsa. I couldnt get mplayer to work with all 6 speakers. but xine does work nicely with 5.1...

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean with all 6 speakers? You mean sound only comes out of 2 speakers, or you mean dolby surround simply doesn't work?

Because that's the thing I basically care for... not really that dolby surround works in all programs, but just that sound comes out of all speakers :P

And thanks for the tips, I understand quite well, I will reinstall gentoo this evening and will see :)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes all speakers work, even if dolby is not in use. 8)
at least with xmms and ut2003-demo sound comes out of all speakers...
I havent tried much else.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, and basically the trick is to mute the most right panel in alsa-mixer to make all speakers work, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

by muting the last slider, it tells the driver to output analog output, instead of digital output... you also might have to unmute the master volume and some other stuff, and adjust some volume levels.

have fun...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

or you could just use the creative drivers http://opensource.creative.com/ which provide better sound qaulity and have been discussed numerous times before, specifically search for emu10k1 in a topic entitled something like 'Which 5.1 sound card to buy' there is a good coverage on how to get the live card working in there
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, I am wondering why 5.1 doesn't work with alsa for the posters of that thread. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=12955
Its working here...

FruitCake, if you say the creative drivers have better sound, I will have to try them ;-)

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 1:48 am    Post subject: Play with alsamixer Reply with quote

really. Tweak it. Tweak it again.

Here's what I always have to make sure of:

Main volume is at 50% to prevent distortion.
PCM is at 50% to prevent distortion.
Surround sound and most of the controls after that (front,rear,etc, all except things like line in that you know you won't be using) are unmuted and at 100%.
Second to last control (has to do with surround) is unmuted and at 100%.

If you get a hiss, go through each and every control and try muting it and unmuting it to see if the hiss goes away.

Use the alsasound init script -- otherwise your settings are forgotten after a reboot.

Tell everything to use surround -- even things like xmms, if they have it. Stereo sounds better if it uses rear speakers.

Go through your manuals 3 or 4 times and make sure you have everything hooked up right. My speakers and soundcard both have wierd ideas of hooking things up -- and the sblive manual says nothing about stereo, which takes more tweaking to make work.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://basic-rip.co.uk/tenpin/linux_audigy_faq.html
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can live without the center channel, the kernel driver for emu10k1 is pretty good. It provides full front and rear output. I tried the emu10k1 driver from portage and I can't stand it. When you enable surround sound it sounds crappy and it echoes. It also distorts the sound. Plus I can tell that it drags my system down. I had a noticeable performance hit when I was using those drivers and it took a while for me to figure out what it was but it was that driver because taking it out has made things normal again. Just my 2 cents.
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