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Well, it seems Nick and myself's efforts are coming close to a release on the proposed default theme that should ship with Fvwm. But I urge people to test this before we run along to fvwm-workers. Please? You can download the tarball and compile it, give it a go. We need feedback for improvement, suggestions, things that we could perhaps do better.
If you do decide to give it a go, create a new user, as the FvwmForm scripts will install to ~/.fvwm -- possibly overwriting your own files. You can always use Xnest if you like -- see the "al.sh" script that I have provided in the tarball on hints for how to do that. Can I also ask that you reply (with any suggestions) to the FvwmForums instead? The thread in question is here.
I thank you in advance.
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Am new to fvwm and i was writing my own fvwmrc2 from the scrath here
I found some examples here in the forum and in other places about placing monitors in the Buttons, so i did using xosview.
But i noticed that my mouse got harder to be used after that... sometimes it jumps when im moving it, etc...
are there any trick to prevent this to happen?
Otherwise it will be unusable the monitors here
other question ive is about systray
im trying to use the peksystray i saw in some examples but it doesnt work here... it get all black, and doesnt seem to have any icons docking on it...
Are there any alternative to it? Im over a amd64, it was masked so maybe thats why it doesnt work (i dont belive this is the cause anyway)
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| tscolari wrote: | other question ive is about systray
im trying to use the peksystray i saw in some examples but it doesnt work here... it get all black, and doesnt seem to have any icons docking on it...
Are there any alternative to it? Im over a amd64, it was masked so maybe thats why it doesnt work (i dont belive this is the cause anyway) |
There have been some problems on some distro's with newer peksystray versions, you could try some other application this could help you, also I've listed some alternatives on my site, that list isn't complete yet though...
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tscolari:
peksystray versions 2.1 and above don't work with fvwm. Version 2.0 works fine. You can also try trayer (on fvwm-crystal site), it looks promising. |
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| theBlackDragon wrote: | | tscolari wrote: | other question ive is about systray
im trying to use the peksystray i saw in some examples but it doesnt work here... it get all black, and doesnt seem to have any icons docking on it...
Are there any alternative to it? Im over a amd64, it was masked so maybe thats why it doesnt work (i dont belive this is the cause anyway) |
There have been some problems on some distro's with newer peksystray versions, you could try some other application this could help you, also I've listed some alternatives on my site, that list isn't complete yet though... |
thanks Ive tested all them and the only that seems to work here was xystray
but im having problems to include it in my button, can you help me?
Are anything wrong in my line?
| Code: | | *BoxLeft: (15x19, Swallow(Kill) `Exec exec xystray -iconrows 1 -iconcols 4`) |
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| tscolari wrote: | Am new to fvwm and i was writing my own fvwmrc2 from the scrath here
I found some examples here in the forum and in other places about placing monitors in the Buttons, so i did using xosview.
But i noticed that my mouse got harder to be used after that... sometimes it jumps when im moving it, etc...
are there any trick to prevent this to happen?
Otherwise it will be unusable the monitors here
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I've never used xosview, but I used to use an app called wmpop3lb a lot to monitor mail waiting with my ISP.
Now for reasons I don't fully understand, this sometimes spawns off a child process that somehow doesn't get killed. very soon there are lots of wmpop3lb processes, all of them using up a surprising amount of resources. The symptoms can be a bit like you describe.
Most app swallow ok though. Try checking the process listings and see if there are lots of xosview processes kicking around
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Bit a of a newbie question here, but I've just discovered a feature I really like but can't find any documentation on, mainly because I don't know the name nor can I think how to describe it in a way that make google return something useful.
When I middle click the title bar of a menu it becomes a real window on my desktop, it's a great idea but there are just a few problems with it. The first being is it possible to "dock", for want of a better word, a dynamically generated menu to the desktop and have it's contents change, either at an interval or when I interact with it? The second being can I make them reappear when FVWM is started, or appear when I first start FVWM, preferably on a set desktop at a layer I specify? |
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| InfinityX wrote: |
When I middle click the title bar of a menu it becomes a real window on my desktop, it's a great idea but there are just a few problems with it. The first being is it possible to "dock", for want of a better word, a dynamically generated menu to the desktop and have it's contents change, either at an interval or when I interact with it? The second being can I make them reappear when FVWM is started, or appear when I first start FVWM, preferably on a set desktop at a layer I specify? |
They're called "tear off menus". Search for TearOff and you should find everything you need. Window names you can get using FvwmIdent, and there are some special options to let you open menus "torn off"
For the regeneration, I think you'd have to close and reopen the menu. Set the swallow option to UseNew (I think) ot pick up new instances. You can schedule regular regeneration, but for on-interaction regeneration you'll need to get fancy with FvwmEvent I expect. FvwmScript may have some useful events as well.
Is your menu going to always be the same size? FvwmButtons may not like it if it grows too large
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Never used FvwmButtons before, but I've managed to create the box I want to swallow my tearoff menu:
| Code: | DestroyFunc StartFunction
AddToFunc StartFunction
+ I Module FvwmPager 0 3
+ I Module FvwmButtons MountBox
Style "MountBox" !Title, !Handles, Sticky, WindowListSkip, \
CirculateSkip, BorderWidth 0, HandleWidth 0
Colorset 15 fg rgb:00/00/00, bg #e6e7d7
Colorset 16 fg rgb:00/00/00, bg #e6e7d7
DestroyModuleConfig UkkostaButtons: *
*MountBox: Geometry 127x500-735+344
*MountBox: Colorset 18
*MountBox: Rows 1
*MountBox: Columns 1
*MountBox: (Swallow "Mount Points" "Menu FvwmMounts") |
But of course that doesn't actually swallow the menu, just pops it up and leaves me with an empty button box. Is what I want to do even possible? |
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tscolari
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| boroshan wrote: | | tscolari wrote: | Am new to fvwm and i was writing my own fvwmrc2 from the scrath here
I found some examples here in the forum and in other places about placing monitors in the Buttons, so i did using xosview.
But i noticed that my mouse got harder to be used after that... sometimes it jumps when im moving it, etc...
are there any trick to prevent this to happen?
Otherwise it will be unusable the monitors here
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I've never used xosview, but I used to use an app called wmpop3lb a lot to monitor mail waiting with my ISP.
Now for reasons I don't fully understand, this sometimes spawns off a child process that somehow doesn't get killed. very soon there are lots of wmpop3lb processes, all of them using up a surprising amount of resources. The symptoms can be a bit like you describe.
Most app swallow ok though. Try checking the process listings and see if there are lots of xosview processes kicking around |
well i wached it for long and did some tests it doesnt seem to be the problem.
After testing sensors one a one, i found out that this was related to the network one, without it all worked fine, so i had to remove it 
this is the current status of the desktop -> http://pet.inf.ufpr.br/~sabino/screenshot.jpg
a lot of stuff is missing, im working on this box stuff first :p.
How can i prevent from windows to iconify behind it (and above too)?ps
after that its just missing a way to place the systray in the box
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boroshan
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Try style StaysOnTop and the EWMHBaseStruts command
Or look at maximize using the growonlayers flag
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| tscolari wrote: | | theBlackDragon wrote: | | tscolari wrote: | other question ive is about systray
im trying to use the peksystray i saw in some examples but it doesnt work here... it get all black, and doesnt seem to have any icons docking on it...
Are there any alternative to it? Im over a amd64, it was masked so maybe thats why it doesnt work (i dont belive this is the cause anyway) |
There have been some problems on some distro's with newer peksystray versions, you could try some other application this could help you, also I've listed some alternatives on my site, that list isn't complete yet though... |
thanks Ive tested all them and the only that seems to work here was xystray
but im having problems to include it in my button, can you help me?
Are anything wrong in my line?
| Code: | | *BoxLeft: (15x19, Swallow(Kill) `Exec exec xystray -iconrows 1 -iconcols 4`) |
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Looks alright to me, make sure you didn't make any mistakes in the geometry you specified, otherwise FvwmButtons might refuse to swallow it, or it might not become visible ...
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| theBlackDragon wrote: | | tscolari wrote: |
Are anything wrong in my line?
| Code: | | *BoxLeft: (15x19, Swallow(Kill) `Exec exec xystray -iconrows 1 -iconcols 4`) |
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Looks alright to me, make sure you didn't make any mistakes in the geometry you specified, otherwise FvwmButtons might refuse to swallow it, or it might not become visible ... |
And of course, if there's a syntax error on a line before that, all processing will stop at that point. Check your log file/VC/.xsession-errors for messages.
Or underneath the line in question, add something like
| Code: | exec exec xmessage Swallow xsystray processed ok
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Which will at least show you if its being processed or not
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| tscolari wrote: |
Are anything wrong in my line?
| Code: | | *BoxLeft: (15x19, Swallow(Kill) `Exec exec xystray -iconrows 1 -iconcols 4`) |
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The hangon is missing (the name/class/ressource that should be matched):
| Code: | | *BoxLeft: (15x19, Swallow(Kill) "xystray" `Exec exec xystray -iconrows 1 -iconcols 4`) |
(assuming that the name,class or ressource of xystray is xystray) |
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| KarnEvil wrote: | | tscolari wrote: |
Are anything wrong in my line?
| Code: | | *BoxLeft: (15x19, Swallow(Kill) `Exec exec xystray -iconrows 1 -iconcols 4`) |
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The hangon is missing (the name/class/ressource that should be matched):
| Code: | | *BoxLeft: (15x19, Swallow(Kill) "xystray" `Exec exec xystray -iconrows 1 -iconcols 4`) |
(assuming that the name,class or ressource of xystray is xystray) |
Heh, yeah, hadn't noticed that, there is however no need to put it between double quotes 
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thanks guys
that solved my problems!
not all windows are docking on it, but the most does 
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Is trayer swallowable?
I was able to swallow it but whenever an application used the system tray the tray would disappear but still function.
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I'm using a modified version of taviso's Thumbnail function:
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SetEnv fvwm_icon_size 150
DestroyFunc Thumbnail
AddToFunc Thumbnail
+ I Raise
+ I ThisWindow (!Iconic) SetEnv Icon-$[w.id] $[w.iconfile]
+ I ThisWindow (!Shaded, Iconifiable, !Iconic) PipeRead \
"xwd -silent -id $[w.id] | convert -scale $[fvwm_icon_size] -frame 1x1 \
-mattecolor grey -quality 0 xwd:- png:$[fvwm_tmp]/icon.tmp.$[w.id].png \
&& echo WindowStyle IconOverride, Icon $[fvwm_tmp]/icon.tmp.$[w.id].png \
|| echo Nop"
+ I TestRc (Match) Test (f $[w.miniiconfile], f $[fvwm_tmp]/icon.tmp.$[w.id].png) PipeRead \
"composite -geometry +2+4 $[w.miniiconfile] $[fvwm_tmp]/icon.tmp.$[w.id].png \
$[fvwm_tmp]/icon.tmp.$[w.id].png; echo Nop"
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However, my only complaint is that the only way I could get this to work was to composite the screenshot with the miniicon. I'd prefer to use w.iconfile as it is larger. (I could of course change it so they both point to the same icon, but then the miniicons are huge elsewhere -- pager, etc). However, if I do that, then the composite only works the first time I minimize it as the icon is being overrided.
Anyone have any advice on how to accomplish this?
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I'm back to playing around with Fvwm and I've run into an odd problem...Well it's not really a problem, more like an idea...
Would it be possible to display gdesklets...but only on a certain virtual desktop? as of right now all the desklets are displayed on each of the desktops...I'm not sure if it's possible but it would be something cool to have around... |
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Would it be possible to display gdesklets...but only on a certain virtual desktop? as of right now all the desklets are displayed on each of the desktops...I'm not sure if it's possible but it would be something cool to have around... |
mmm... I've been kicking a few ideas like that around. Have a look at StickAcrossPages. That should do what you want
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| hpestilence wrote: | Is trayer swallowable?
I was able to swallow it but whenever an application used the system tray the tray would disappear but still function. |
This is a bug with every standalone system tray I ever tried in FVWM, personally. I never got one to work. The ones that are part of Pypanel or Gnome-panel work though. No clue why.
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I've been busy over on the Fvwm Forums. I've written three new modules for Fvwm.
FvwmTitleStats inserts system status information into the title bar of the currently focused window
FvwmMonitor allows you to combine multiple system monitors and application launchers into a single button.
FvwmThumbnails implements a simple interface to generate thumnail icons. It can cope with multiple sets of differently scaled icons, and is more efficient than using pipereads
Try 'em out - feedback and bug reports appreciated.
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| Unne wrote: |
This is a bug with every standalone system tray I ever tried in FVWM, personally. I never got one to work. The ones that are part of Pypanel or Gnome-panel work though. No clue why. |
I managed to just fake the system tray using trayer by setting it on top of my fvwmbuttons taskbar.
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| Unne wrote: | | hpestilence wrote: | Is trayer swallowable?
I was able to swallow it but whenever an application used the system tray the tray would disappear but still function. |
This is a bug with every standalone system tray I ever tried in FVWM, personally. I never got one to work. The ones that are part of Pypanel or Gnome-panel work though. No clue why. |
Xystray is reported to work, it's been written with exactly this kind of use in mind
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