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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those interested, fvwm-2.5.11 ebuild is in portage now.

Changes from 2.5.10

* Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.)
* The default fvwm configuration files are now: ~/.fvwm/config and $FVWM_DATADIR/config. Five previously used config file locations are still searched as usual for backward compatibility.
* New extended variables $[w.desk] and $[w.layer].
* New options GrowOnWindowLayer and GrowOnlayers to the Maximize command.
* New Style option "State".
* New Style option "CenterPlacement".
* New option to FvwmIconMan: ShowNoIcons.
* New WindowList tracker and other enhancements in Perl library.
* New option to fvwm-menu-directory: --func-name.
* Improved FvwmWindowMenu module.
* Fluxbox-like Alt-Button3 resizing with the new Resize options Direction, WarpToBorder and FixedDirection
* Enhanced "Test (Version >= x.y.z)" option to allow version comparisons.
* New FvwmButtons options: ActiveColorset, ActiveIcon, ActiveTitle, PressColorset, PressIcon and PressTitle.
* New FvwmButtons swallow option: SwallowNew.
* The option CurrentGlobalPageAnyDesk was accidentally named CurrentGlobbalPageAnyDesk before.
* New conditions AnyScreen and Overlapped.
* The Read and PipeRead commands return 1 if the file or command could be read or executed and -1 otherwise.
* New menu option TearOffImmediately.
* Added support for Solaris' Xinerama.
* New option MailDir in FvwmTaskBar.
* MoveToPage command: New options wrapx, wrapy, nodesklimitx and nodesklimity. New suffix 'w' to allow for window relative movement.

Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How cool. I just happend to go to the fvwm site 5 minutes ago and noticed the new release. Of course came back here only to find that it is already in portage (of course) and there was an announcement.

Thanks kashou for posting the changes since 2.5.10 as I didn't see them at first glance on the website.

Yeah! a new version.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

abali wrote:
I really like the HiddenConsole feature, thanks taviso. 8) I would like to make it a bit different though, so that it only opens on a hotkey, could anyone here help me out?

Have you seen the HiddenConsoleKeybinding in my configuration? Try win+h, I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but it might be a start :)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

taviso wrote:
Have you seen the HiddenConsoleKeybinding in my configuration? Try win+h, I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but it might be a start :)


Yeah I've figured that out :) The question is, how do I make it focused upon opening and restore the focus when closing?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any highly preconfigured FVWM configurations out there ? Since im not really into configuring it for 3 years 24/7, but like FVWM otherwise.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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* Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.)


Ok, how do I use this? I have an fvwmiconman swalled in an fvwmbuttons. I want to make it so when I scroll the mouse wheel on it then the current desktop changes +1 in the appropriate direction per-click of the wheel. I checked the man page on the website, but it hasn't been updated since 10/03 it says.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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* Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.)


Ok, how do I use this? I have an fvwmiconman swalled in an fvwmbuttons. I want to make it so when I scroll the mouse wheel on it then the current desktop changes +1 in the appropriate direction per-click of the wheel. I checked the man page on the website, but it hasn't been updated since 10/03 it says.


Window-specific keybindings are cool, but you don't need them to do this, FvwmIconMan can handle it on it's own :)
try this:
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*FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 4 N sendcommand "Scroll 100000 0"
*FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 5 N sendcommand "Scroll -100000 0"

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruzbeh wrote:
For all the beginners among us: http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide


is there any way i can download the whole guide in case the site goes done?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taviso wrote:
Apreche wrote:
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* Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.)


Ok, how do I use this? I have an fvwmiconman swalled in an fvwmbuttons. I want to make it so when I scroll the mouse wheel on it then the current desktop changes +1 in the appropriate direction per-click of the wheel. I checked the man page on the website, but it hasn't been updated since 10/03 it says.


Window-specific keybindings are cool, but you don't need them to do this, FvwmIconMan can handle it on it's own :)
try this:
Code:
*FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 4 N sendcommand "Scroll 100000 0"
*FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 5 N sendcommand "Scroll -100000 0"


Ooops, sorry. I mean FvwmPager. This was something I wanted to do previously, but was unable to. I probably shouldn't ask questions 10 minutes after I wake up...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeknay wrote:
Ruzbeh wrote:
For all the beginners among us: http://zensites.net/fvwm/guide


is there any way i can download the whole guide in case the site goes done?

eeknay


Httrack, maybe.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oggialli wrote:
Is there any highly preconfigured FVWM configurations out there ? Since im not really into configuring it for 3 years 24/7, but like FVWM otherwise.

You can try FVWM-Crystal (http://fvwm-crystal.berlios.de). I'm making it only about 1,5 year, and not 24/7, but some people say it's good enough.

For everyone using it, notice the website change (http://fvwm-crystal.berlios.de). There are also available forums, bug reporting, feature requests on the BerliOS Project Page. Latest version is 20040929, but be warned, I found some bugs there already (older versions ale avilable too).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just compiled the new 2.5.11. It starts faster and swallow scripts better than the previous release. Unfortunately, it seems that the HoverIcon do not work anymore for me. Does anybody has experienced this behavior? :cry:
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pem wrote:
I've just compiled the new 2.5.11. It starts faster and swallow scripts better than the previous release. Unfortunately, it seems that the HoverIcon do not work anymore for me. Does anybody has experienced this behavior? :cry:

I thought some people might run into that, so i put a message in the pkg_postinst about it :)

It's been renamed, it's now called ActiveIcon :)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Taviso 8) . That's sooo better.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taviso wrote:
I thought some people might run into that, so i put a message in the pkg_postinst about it :)

It's been renamed, it's now called ActiveIcon :)


I must commend you on the fvwm ebuilds. You do such a great job at keeping us up to date and I did notice the post install info when I poked inside the ebuild (still have not upgraded yet)


I do however have a question regarding the so called new Style option named State. Any examples on what this does/purpose?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I just started using FVWM and there are 2 things that are bothering me that I haven't yet figured out how to resolve.

1. While browsing the web, a new firefox window got opened with very small geometry. Now, all the new firefox windows I open are that same geometry. Is there some option for things to remember geometry?

2. With Openbox I really liked the option to be able to have new windows be placed right underneath the mouse. I know there is a Manual placement policy, but I don't really want to have to click every time I place it.

Thanks in advance for any input.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chickpea wrote:
I must commend you on the fvwm ebuilds. You do such a great job at keeping us up to date and I did notice the post install info when I poked inside the ebuild (still have not upgraded yet)

Thank you! nice to hear :)
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I do however have a question regarding the so called new Style option named State. Any examples on what this does/purpose?

You might be aware that all windows have a set of around 30 bits that you can toggle on or off, you can use these for whatever you like, and you can test them in functions to perform some action if a state is set. The idea behind this is that you can write your own Conditionals, eg ThisWindow (State 24) DoSomething.
The new State style is just a reaction to the complaint that you couldnt set bits on (or off) by default, but now you can, with Style Blah !State 24, or whatever :)
Not terribly exciting, but definitely useful in weird complex functions! :)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kashou wrote:
For those interested, fvwm-2.5.11 ebuild is in portage now.

Changes from 2.5.10

* New FvwmButtons options: ActiveColorset, ActiveIcon, ActiveTitle, PressColorset, PressIcon and PressTitle.
Enjoy!


Horray!!! 8)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I need someone to check this, maybe it's an XMMS-FVWM bug, who knows. Anyway, in fvwm >2.5.10 I could start XMMS using these Styles:
Code:
Style xmms StaysOnTop
Style XMMS_Player       StartIconic, NoIcon, NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip
Style XMMS_Playlist     StartIconic, NoIcon, NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip
Style XMMS_Equalizer    StartIconic, NoIcon, NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip

XMMS started automatically iconified, and it didn't show up on the WindowList with icons, it's configuration:
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DestroyFunc ThumbnailList
AddToFunc ThumbnailList
+ I WindowList "$*" Function ThumbnailListFunc CurrentDesk NoGeometry MaxLabelWi
dth 30 OnlyIcons NoHotkeys NoCurrentDeskTitle UseListSkip SelectOnRelease $[Sele
ctOnReleaseKey]


Now I upgraded to fvwm 2.5.11 and there goes the trouble... When I start FVWM, xmms starts iconified and is shown on the WindowList; when i load the Styles file, XMMS disappears from the list. Good. Now I close the XMMS, open it up again and... XMMS is shown on the WindowList (with icons)!

Anyone have an idea how to avoid this?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if this is a bit of a newb question, but how do I change what mouse cursors are used in different situations? Specifically I'm looking to get rid of the big 'X' when the cursor is over the root window.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CursorStyle root top_left_arrow

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking for a func that will change the window decor whenever I shade and unshade windows. Taviso had it in one of his older configs, but I forgot how he did it :roll:
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taviso wrote:

You might be aware that all windows have a set of around 30 bits that you can toggle on or off, you can use these for whatever you like, and you can test them in functions to perform some action if a state is set. The idea behind this is that you can write your own Conditionals, eg ThisWindow (State 24) DoSomething.
The new State style is just a reaction to the complaint that you couldnt set bits on (or off) by default, but now you can, with Style Blah !State 24, or whatever :)
Not terribly exciting, but definitely useful in weird complex functions! :)


Oh I see. I have not been advanced enough to use such function but I have seen various configs with the use of (State 2) blah blah blah....I guess I will need to reaquaint myself with the man pages.

Thanks Taviso!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAMNIT!!!! I'm trying to get rid of the standard FVWM buttons but HOW!!!!! I keep comparing my FVWM config with others (Unne) and I can't find it :evil: .

http://members.lycos.nl/ultrasupreme/b0rked2.png !!!!!

edit: Ok phew sorry for that outburst but I'm really not getting anywhere. :(

Here is my current config: click
Thanks for any help!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruzbeh wrote:
DAMNIT!!!! I'm trying to get rid of the standard FVWM buttons but HOW!!!!! I keep comparing my FVWM config with others (Unne) and I can't find it :evil: .

http://members.lycos.nl/ultrasupreme/b0rked2.png !!!!!

edit: Ok phew sorry for that outburst but I'm really not getting anywhere. :(

Here is my current config: click
Thanks for any help!!!!


It looks like you did not do the decor stuffs. Here is mine as an example
Code:
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# Window Decoration
#####

DestroyDecor DefaultDecor
AddToDecor DefaultDecor
+ TitleStyle LeftJustified Height 17
+ TitleStyle Active ( VGradient 64 #4464ac #3a4a6d -- Flat )
+ TitleStyle InActive ( VGradient 64 #3a4a6d #4464ac -- Flat )

+ ButtonStyle All Active ( VGradient 64 #4464ac #3a4a6d -- Flat )
+ ButtonStyle All InActive ( VGradient 64 #3a4a6d #4464ac -- Flat )

# Titlebar icon
+ AddButtonStyle  1 Active MiniIcon -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle  1 InActive MiniIcon -- Flat
+ ButtonStyle 1 - MwmDecorMenu

# Close Button
+ AddButtonStyle  2 Active Vector 4 25x25@2 75x75@2 75x25@4 25x75@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle  2 Inactive Vector 4 25x25@3 75x75@3 75x25@4 25x75@3 -- Flat

# Maximize Button
+ AddButtonStyle  4 Active Vector 7 25x25@2 25x75@2 75x75@2 75x25@2 25x25@2 25x30@2 75x30@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle  4 Inactive Vector 7 25x25@3 25x75@3 75x75@3 75x25@3 25x25@3 25x30@3 75x30@3 -- Flat
+ ButtonStyle 4 - MwmDecorMax

# Minimize Button
+ AddButtonStyle  6 Active Vector 4 25x75@2 75x75@2 25x70@2 75x70@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle  6 Inactive Vector 4 25x75@3 75x75@3 25x70@3 75x70@3 -- Flat
+ ButtonStyle 6 - MwmDecorMin

# Border
+ BorderStyle Active Solid black -- NoInset HiddenHandles
+ BorderStyle Inactive Solid black -- NoInset HiddenHandles

Style * UseDecor DefaultDecor
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