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kashou n00b

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 13
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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For those interested, fvwm-2.5.11 ebuild is in portage now.
Changes from 2.5.10
* Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.)
* The default fvwm configuration files are now: ~/.fvwm/config and $FVWM_DATADIR/config. Five previously used config file locations are still searched as usual for backward compatibility.
* New extended variables $[w.desk] and $[w.layer].
* New options GrowOnWindowLayer and GrowOnlayers to the Maximize command.
* New Style option "State".
* New Style option "CenterPlacement".
* New option to FvwmIconMan: ShowNoIcons.
* New WindowList tracker and other enhancements in Perl library.
* New option to fvwm-menu-directory: --func-name.
* Improved FvwmWindowMenu module.
* Fluxbox-like Alt-Button3 resizing with the new Resize options Direction, WarpToBorder and FixedDirection
* Enhanced "Test (Version >= x.y.z)" option to allow version comparisons.
* New FvwmButtons options: ActiveColorset, ActiveIcon, ActiveTitle, PressColorset, PressIcon and PressTitle.
* New FvwmButtons swallow option: SwallowNew.
* The option CurrentGlobalPageAnyDesk was accidentally named CurrentGlobbalPageAnyDesk before.
* New conditions AnyScreen and Overlapped.
* The Read and PipeRead commands return 1 if the file or command could be read or executed and -1 otherwise.
* New menu option TearOffImmediately.
* Added support for Solaris' Xinerama.
* New option MailDir in FvwmTaskBar.
* MoveToPage command: New options wrapx, wrapy, nodesklimitx and nodesklimity. New suffix 'w' to allow for window relative movement.
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Chickpea l33t

Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 846 Location: Vancouver WA
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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How cool. I just happend to go to the fvwm site 5 minutes ago and noticed the new release. Of course came back here only to find that it is already in portage (of course) and there was an announcement.
Thanks kashou for posting the changes since 2.5.10 as I didn't see them at first glance on the website.
Yeah! a new version. |
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taviso Retired Dev


Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 261 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| abali wrote: | I really like the HiddenConsole feature, thanks taviso. I would like to make it a bit different though, so that it only opens on a hotkey, could anyone here help me out? |
Have you seen the HiddenConsoleKeybinding in my configuration? Try win+h, I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but it might be a start  _________________ --------------------------------------
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abali n00b

Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| taviso wrote: | Have you seen the HiddenConsoleKeybinding in my configuration? Try win+h, I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but it might be a start  |
Yeah I've figured that out The question is, how do I make it focused upon opening and restore the focus when closing? |
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oggialli Guru


Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 389 Location: Finland, near Tampere
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Is there any highly preconfigured FVWM configurations out there ? Since im not really into configuring it for 3 years 24/7, but like FVWM otherwise. _________________ IBM Thinkpad T42P - Gentoo Linux |
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Apreche Guru


Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 506 Location: Beacon, NY
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | * Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.) |
Ok, how do I use this? I have an fvwmiconman swalled in an fvwmbuttons. I want to make it so when I scroll the mouse wheel on it then the current desktop changes +1 in the appropriate direction per-click of the wheel. I checked the man page on the website, but it hasn't been updated since 10/03 it says. |
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taviso Retired Dev


Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 261 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Apreche wrote: | | Quote: | | * Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.) |
Ok, how do I use this? I have an fvwmiconman swalled in an fvwmbuttons. I want to make it so when I scroll the mouse wheel on it then the current desktop changes +1 in the appropriate direction per-click of the wheel. I checked the man page on the website, but it hasn't been updated since 10/03 it says. |
Window-specific keybindings are cool, but you don't need them to do this, FvwmIconMan can handle it on it's own
try this:
| Code: | *FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 4 N sendcommand "Scroll 100000 0"
*FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 5 N sendcommand "Scroll -100000 0" |
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eeknay Guru


Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 402 Location: EndOfTheRainbow
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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is there any way i can download the whole guide in case the site goes done?
eeknay _________________ Linda: "The holiday season is time of celebration for most but it is also the time to remember the tragic suffering of the less fortunate."
Morbo: "Earthlings do not yet know the meaning of suffering." |
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Apreche Guru


Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 506 Location: Beacon, NY
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| taviso wrote: | | Apreche wrote: | | Quote: | | * Window-specific key/mouse bindings. (Bindings no longer have to be global.) |
Ok, how do I use this? I have an fvwmiconman swalled in an fvwmbuttons. I want to make it so when I scroll the mouse wheel on it then the current desktop changes +1 in the appropriate direction per-click of the wheel. I checked the man page on the website, but it hasn't been updated since 10/03 it says. |
Window-specific keybindings are cool, but you don't need them to do this, FvwmIconMan can handle it on it's own
try this:
| Code: | *FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 4 N sendcommand "Scroll 100000 0"
*FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 5 N sendcommand "Scroll -100000 0" |
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Ooops, sorry. I mean FvwmPager. This was something I wanted to do previously, but was unable to. I probably shouldn't ask questions 10 minutes after I wake up... |
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oggialli Guru


Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 389 Location: Finland, near Tampere
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| eeknay wrote: |
is there any way i can download the whole guide in case the site goes done?
eeknay |
Httrack, maybe. _________________ IBM Thinkpad T42P - Gentoo Linux |
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harnir n00b

Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 39 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| oggialli wrote: | | Is there any highly preconfigured FVWM configurations out there ? Since im not really into configuring it for 3 years 24/7, but like FVWM otherwise. |
You can try FVWM-Crystal (http://fvwm-crystal.berlios.de). I'm making it only about 1,5 year, and not 24/7, but some people say it's good enough.
For everyone using it, notice the website change (http://fvwm-crystal.berlios.de). There are also available forums, bug reporting, feature requests on the BerliOS Project Page. Latest version is 20040929, but be warned, I found some bugs there already (older versions ale avilable too). |
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pem Guru


Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 390 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I've just compiled the new 2.5.11. It starts faster and swallow scripts better than the previous release. Unfortunately, it seems that the HoverIcon do not work anymore for me. Does anybody has experienced this behavior?  _________________ Registered user #30505 |
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taviso Retired Dev


Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 261 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| pem wrote: | I've just compiled the new 2.5.11. It starts faster and swallow scripts better than the previous release. Unfortunately, it seems that the HoverIcon do not work anymore for me. Does anybody has experienced this behavior?  |
I thought some people might run into that, so i put a message in the pkg_postinst about it
It's been renamed, it's now called ActiveIcon  _________________ --------------------------------------
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pem Guru


Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 390 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Taviso . That's sooo better. _________________ Registered user #30505 |
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Chickpea l33t

Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 846 Location: Vancouver WA
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| taviso wrote: | I thought some people might run into that, so i put a message in the pkg_postinst about it
It's been renamed, it's now called ActiveIcon  |
I must commend you on the fvwm ebuilds. You do such a great job at keeping us up to date and I did notice the post install info when I poked inside the ebuild (still have not upgraded yet)
I do however have a question regarding the so called new Style option named State. Any examples on what this does/purpose? |
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TheGreatPhilHansen Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 89
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I just started using FVWM and there are 2 things that are bothering me that I haven't yet figured out how to resolve.
1. While browsing the web, a new firefox window got opened with very small geometry. Now, all the new firefox windows I open are that same geometry. Is there some option for things to remember geometry?
2. With Openbox I really liked the option to be able to have new windows be placed right underneath the mouse. I know there is a Manual placement policy, but I don't really want to have to click every time I place it.
Thanks in advance for any input. |
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taviso Retired Dev


Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 261 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Chickpea wrote: | | I must commend you on the fvwm ebuilds. You do such a great job at keeping us up to date and I did notice the post install info when I poked inside the ebuild (still have not upgraded yet) |
Thank you! nice to hear
| Quote: | | I do however have a question regarding the so called new Style option named State. Any examples on what this does/purpose? |
You might be aware that all windows have a set of around 30 bits that you can toggle on or off, you can use these for whatever you like, and you can test them in functions to perform some action if a state is set. The idea behind this is that you can write your own Conditionals, eg ThisWindow (State 24) DoSomething.
The new State style is just a reaction to the complaint that you couldnt set bits on (or off) by default, but now you can, with Style Blah !State 24, or whatever
Not terribly exciting, but definitely useful in weird complex functions!  _________________ --------------------------------------
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Jefklak l33t

Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 818 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| kashou wrote: | For those interested, fvwm-2.5.11 ebuild is in portage now.
Changes from 2.5.10
* New FvwmButtons options: ActiveColorset, ActiveIcon, ActiveTitle, PressColorset, PressIcon and PressTitle.
Enjoy! |
Horray!!!  _________________ {Linux User #333296}
Kernel 2.6.9-nitro4! << hurrah |
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harnir n00b

Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 39 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I need someone to check this, maybe it's an XMMS-FVWM bug, who knows. Anyway, in fvwm >2.5.10 I could start XMMS using these Styles:
| Code: | Style xmms StaysOnTop
Style XMMS_Player StartIconic, NoIcon, NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip
Style XMMS_Playlist StartIconic, NoIcon, NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip
Style XMMS_Equalizer StartIconic, NoIcon, NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip
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XMMS started automatically iconified, and it didn't show up on the WindowList with icons, it's configuration:
| Code: | DestroyFunc ThumbnailList
AddToFunc ThumbnailList
+ I WindowList "$*" Function ThumbnailListFunc CurrentDesk NoGeometry MaxLabelWi
dth 30 OnlyIcons NoHotkeys NoCurrentDeskTitle UseListSkip SelectOnRelease $[Sele
ctOnReleaseKey]
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Now I upgraded to fvwm 2.5.11 and there goes the trouble... When I start FVWM, xmms starts iconified and is shown on the WindowList; when i load the Styles file, XMMS disappears from the list. Good. Now I close the XMMS, open it up again and... XMMS is shown on the WindowList (with icons)!
Anyone have an idea how to avoid this? |
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chunderbunny Veteran


Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1281 Location: 51°24'27" N, 0°57'15" W
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry if this is a bit of a newb question, but how do I change what mouse cursors are used in different situations? Specifically I'm looking to get rid of the big 'X' when the cursor is over the root window. |
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Unne l33t


Joined: 21 Jul 2003 Posts: 616
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | | CursorStyle root top_left_arrow |
_________________ Obligatory hompage link. |
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tln Veteran

Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 1502
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:12 am Post subject: |
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I'm looking for a func that will change the window decor whenever I shade and unshade windows. Taviso had it in one of his older configs, but I forgot how he did it  |
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Chickpea l33t

Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 846 Location: Vancouver WA
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| taviso wrote: |
You might be aware that all windows have a set of around 30 bits that you can toggle on or off, you can use these for whatever you like, and you can test them in functions to perform some action if a state is set. The idea behind this is that you can write your own Conditionals, eg ThisWindow (State 24) DoSomething.
The new State style is just a reaction to the complaint that you couldnt set bits on (or off) by default, but now you can, with Style Blah !State 24, or whatever
Not terribly exciting, but definitely useful in weird complex functions!  |
Oh I see. I have not been advanced enough to use such function but I have seen various configs with the use of (State 2) blah blah blah....I guess I will need to reaquaint myself with the man pages.
Thanks Taviso! |
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Ruzbeh Apprentice


Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 223
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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DAMNIT!!!! I'm trying to get rid of the standard FVWM buttons but HOW!!!!! I keep comparing my FVWM config with others (Unne) and I can't find it .
http://members.lycos.nl/ultrasupreme/b0rked2.png !!!!!
edit: Ok phew sorry for that outburst but I'm really not getting anywhere.
Here is my current config: click
Thanks for any help!!!! |
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Apreche Guru


Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 506 Location: Beacon, NY
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Ruzbeh wrote: | DAMNIT!!!! I'm trying to get rid of the standard FVWM buttons but HOW!!!!! I keep comparing my FVWM config with others (Unne) and I can't find it .
http://members.lycos.nl/ultrasupreme/b0rked2.png !!!!!
edit: Ok phew sorry for that outburst but I'm really not getting anywhere.
Here is my current config: click
Thanks for any help!!!! |
It looks like you did not do the decor stuffs. Here is mine as an example
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# Window Decoration
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DestroyDecor DefaultDecor
AddToDecor DefaultDecor
+ TitleStyle LeftJustified Height 17
+ TitleStyle Active ( VGradient 64 #4464ac #3a4a6d -- Flat )
+ TitleStyle InActive ( VGradient 64 #3a4a6d #4464ac -- Flat )
+ ButtonStyle All Active ( VGradient 64 #4464ac #3a4a6d -- Flat )
+ ButtonStyle All InActive ( VGradient 64 #3a4a6d #4464ac -- Flat )
# Titlebar icon
+ AddButtonStyle 1 Active MiniIcon -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 1 InActive MiniIcon -- Flat
+ ButtonStyle 1 - MwmDecorMenu
# Close Button
+ AddButtonStyle 2 Active Vector 4 25x25@2 75x75@2 75x25@4 25x75@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 2 Inactive Vector 4 25x25@3 75x75@3 75x25@4 25x75@3 -- Flat
# Maximize Button
+ AddButtonStyle 4 Active Vector 7 25x25@2 25x75@2 75x75@2 75x25@2 25x25@2 25x30@2 75x30@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 4 Inactive Vector 7 25x25@3 25x75@3 75x75@3 75x25@3 25x25@3 25x30@3 75x30@3 -- Flat
+ ButtonStyle 4 - MwmDecorMax
# Minimize Button
+ AddButtonStyle 6 Active Vector 4 25x75@2 75x75@2 25x70@2 75x70@2 -- Flat
+ AddButtonStyle 6 Inactive Vector 4 25x75@3 75x75@3 25x70@3 75x70@3 -- Flat
+ ButtonStyle 6 - MwmDecorMin
# Border
+ BorderStyle Active Solid black -- NoInset HiddenHandles
+ BorderStyle Inactive Solid black -- NoInset HiddenHandles
Style * UseDecor DefaultDecor |
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