The F? Virtual Window Manager (part 2)

[Elotemuygrande]

Well I've messed with a number of settings, but to no avail... As to changing the screen resolution, I tried that briefly and the Icons were still a bit small. Besides, I'm used to 1600x1200:-) What I would like to do is have something with sensible sized windows to be used similar to expose or skippy/metacity. I'm pretty sure I saw one of taviso's screenshots with an expose lookalike that didn't use the FvwmIconMan...

My end goal is a desktop that foregoes all of the distracting desktop nonsense like titlebars, taskbars and the like...What I'm going to do very soon is have no taskbars, titlebars, or launch menus to distract me, and instead just have a run dialog/xterm with completion and something like expose for task switching. Doing it this way makes everything easily controlled via the keyboard, eliminating unneccesary rodent use

[Darkael]

@Elotemuygrande:
Are these icons big enough for you? (they can be bigger if you want)

The icon max size is indeed hardcoded in FVWM, so I made a little patch to bypass that (here). This is the ugliest patch in the universe, but it seems to work. I had to delete an entire part of the code, because just changing the constant MAX_ALLOWABLE_ICON_DIMENSION doesn't seem to work.

About Expose, taviso has a FvwmExpose function in his config, which is just a menu with a list of windows with their screenshots (example)
But if you want a true Expose à la OSX, you'll need either Xorg composite extension (and either code an expose-like yourself, or use skippy), or port your fvwm config to Metisse (which has an Expose function built-in, it's really ugly, but if you can code you can try to modify it....)

[Elotemuygrande]

Wow, Thanks KarnEvil! and what an amazingly quick response! Squinting at those little icons was making me wish I could affort LASIK. I can't wait to get home and try it out...

Yes, that patch made me giggle a bit, but certainly no worse than some of the surgeries I've performed If I get copious amounts of time this week I'll poke around and see if there's a less invasive way and pass it along, but for now I'm just excited to finally have a working workaround Thanks again!

I have ATI cards, so the new X.org extensions won't be acceptable until ATI gets off its rear, but this Metisse project sounds awesome, at least in concept...FVWM derivative that draws using OpenGL...I'll have to at least give that one a try. But I'm a little afraid the project won't have the longevity or support of other environments, so I may just try to hack the traditional for now...

Edit:
I just downloaded the FVWM source at what I jokingly refer to as "work", and from what I can see the max_icon_width, and max_icon_height in that bit of code that was edited out seem to be set by the IconSize window property. Two maxes defined...one user specified and one hard coded... We'll see how much surgery is required when I get home...

[VT_Hokie04]

I'm not sure if this is the exactly the right place to ask this, but I've recently begun trying out fvwm and I've got most of the menu finished and now I'm trying the windows decorations. I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any that look similar to plastik in KDE:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7559

I really like how it looks and its very slick IMO, so I guess my questions is whether or not someone has set up a windows decoration similar to this and if so how. Thanks in advance for any help!

VT_Hokie04

[pem]

I've never seen such a theme ported to Fvwm. I'm rather interested if you succeed in doing so. Be carefull though, as the rounded corner are tricky and cannot be achieved completely. Owing to transparency issue (instead of translency like for the menu), the window overlapping lets appear artefacts.
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[TerminalAddict]

I converted about 3 days ago

I've started with taviso's config (like everybody else )
and so far have this
http://loudas.com/image_gallery/albums/ScreenShots/trinity-20050212.png
xcompmgr has been turned of (after about 2 minutes of playing)

I'm trying to figure something out at the mo'
I've boung Alt+H to show the HiddenConsole
I'd like the HiddenConsole to gain focus and stay "un-Hidden" until I Alt+H again.

meaning: Alt+H = toggle HideenConsole visibility

[COiN3D]

Hello there... has anyone an URL for some good window-decorations? I remembered that Ikaro made a package some time ago... but I can't find it on his website.
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[Darkael]

@TerminalAddict:
A way to do this is to change dynamically the key-binding. I don't use an hidden console, so I don't know the details but you can do something like that:

[pem]

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[theBlackDragon]

[Gold Fish]

@Pem

Do you think you could tarball you .fvwm directory, so the rest of us can play with your set up? It looks awsome!

You've probably been asked this before, but whats the bar on the bottom?

That bar in the cornor (part of the background) is also a pretty cool design... I might try to make an mpd player out of it... hmmm....

~Gold Fish

[ratbert90]

Ok, this is going to sound really stupid. But here goes.

How on earth do I get my icons just to minimize to the FvwmTaskBar? Whenever I minimize them, they create a icon on the desktop, which I don't want.


I have been banging my head against this for hours.

Also, How do I get fvwmTaskBar to swallow the pager? This one is easy, but I am so close to finishing fvwm2rc3.0 that I just wan't to finish it
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[theBlackDragon]

[ratbert90]

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[Fran]

[pem]

The best way to proceed is to swallow your IconMan under an FvwmButtons bar. I've done that under the conf I'm working on. It will provide you the possibility to resize as you wish the IconMan and to swallow a clock easily done with a simple FvwmScript (or an xclock if you want to have an analogic kind of clock). I've just replied this idea into the french forum. The code part should be understandable. The first code concerns the conf of my FvwmIconMan and the second concerns the FvwmButton bar. As you will see under this last one, I've set up a width of 1367 pixels. Note that the colorset I've used matches the fvwm-theme indexing policy.
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[Fran]

[pem]

De nada
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[Arainach]

Hey, a quick question: Every third post in this thread mentions "taviso's config". As amazing as it sounds, I absolutely refuse to search through 87 pages of thread to find it. Could someone edit the first post of this thread (and possibly of the first one) with a link to it? Meanwhile, impatient me is slowly trying to write his own .fvwmrc, but is sticking with Fluxbox while he doesn't hold his breath.
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