I want a stage 4 install :-)

sukotto · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 34 Location: New York, USA

Just minor rant.

I wish that Gentoo offered a Stage 4 install in addition to the other 3 stages. One that lets you install fast.
something like this.

Boot live CD
Partition and mount filesystem
chroot
untar stage4 system snapshot (basic system just like the LiveCD... but with an operational set of config files already installed).
copy liveCD kernel to /boot
fstab
grub or lilo
DONE

After reboot emerge -K a few things I want (like xfree, kde, apache, mod_php). Giving me a system that's ready to go in under 30 minutes.

Then, if and when I want to, I can play with my USE settings, build an optimised kernel, and emerge -u <whatever>

Basically, I'm feeling impatient. I love the idea of Gentoo, that it's a meta-distro, that it has such fantastic package management, that it optimises itself to my machine. But I want a working system first.

Kind of a pointless rant I know :-)

But I do wish something like this was available (and supported).

Ok, rant done. I now return you to your regularly scheduled list of "help!" posts :-)

Sukotto

oh, I found this howto. Worth a try!

Ateo · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:13 pm Post subject:

Hey bro...

Try to keep your posts' related to the forum. This has nothing to do with an actual gentoo installation. It's a rant and rants have a home. Take a look at the main index page of the forums and take a guess where rants go...

Peace.

sukotto · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 34 Location: New York, USA

You don't think this is install related? :-)

Maybe "Other Things Gentoo" or "Chat" would be better.
Admins, please move this post if you wish.

Thanks

Sukotto

lkenner · n00b Joined: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 8

I think there is a stage4.... follow the link: www.redhat.com

=P

Bodhammer · n00b Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 11

I do think this is an install question as I have the same concerns. I have slow maching (p2-450) that I use for experimenting and I want to move from Debian to something with slightly newer packages. I would love to do a quick install and then start things compiling in the background. This is a ligitimate concern and a good feature request.

Thanks for the link.

P.

christsong84 · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:12 am Post subject:

installing gentoo is a support forum (note it's under the category "Assistance")

...suggestions and such generally go to the Gentoo Chat forums I believe. (since it's related to gentoo)

I think it's a good suggestion myself

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ian! · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject:

Deebster · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 126

I wouldn't use it myself, but the idea has a lot of merit. It's ironic that Gentoo is a pain to set up on slow systems - the very systems that would most benefit from the optimisation and streamlining.

It probably would mean we'd end up with a lot of people who'd never bothered to recompile their system, is this bad thing or not?

christsong84 · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject:

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charlieg · Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject:

Gentoo is a meta-distribution; can be used for creating distributions and even provides the tools to do it.

If you don't get what I'm saying, I'll summarise: you can make your own stage4 install.

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odegard · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:44 am Post subject:

I've installed gentoo a few times but the last time I first booted with knoppix and went from there rather than the live cd. THe install guide already has instructions on how to do that. It was nice to hve a system running while emerging in the background. I will surely do this the next time I install gentoo too.

Surye · n00b Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 29

senectus · Guru Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 534

This is EXACTLY what I want..

Seriously..

Go to installfest
pick up "Stage 4 Gentoo CD"
do this:

TitaniumAngel · n00b Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2

instead of redhat, try slackware. with slack I can get a system up and running in 20 minutes.

qnx · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 10:18 am Post subject:

I think he still wants portage along with others Gentoo benefits, which can not be found in Slack.
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TitaniumAngel · n00b Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2

obviously.

the loss of portage is the price you pay for an install that takes 20 minutes.

qnx · Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:18 am Post subject:

Well..dunno.... You can still install the portagetree from LiveCD, vi /etc/make.conf and then emerge --deep system, which you do AFTER finished installation. I mean you can just copy the LiveCD and start using Gentoo, including X and so, while building your *optimized* system in background. Can't you?
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allucid · Veteran Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1314 Location: atlanta

i make my own "stage4" install for every PC I install gentoo on. wish I had a dvd burner, though...I have to split it up to several CDs.

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senectus · Guru Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 534

This would be greatly appreciated..
If there is anything I can do to help let me know, I have machines and a few hours every day to test it if you want..
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gebner · Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:51 pm Post subject: distcc?

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senectus · Guru Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 534

cool.. now all we need is a way to do this by pulling the "pc specific" stuff off the live CD enviroment.. :-)

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