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rabbit Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 122 Location: Clarkson University
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| It's an applet you add to your panel (right click on your panel, then add applet [though I'm not positive that's how it works in XFCE]). I'm pretty sure it's still called "notification area" in XFCE (though it's been awhile since I've used xfce). The XFCE documentation (http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overview&lang=en#features) calls it that at least. |
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rt_clik n00b


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 70 Location: Rohnert Park, California, US
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:52 am Post subject: |
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You rock! Thanks. A little trouble getting the Systemtray item to hook to the panel, but found a reference that indicated the Systemtray must be disabled in the Taskbar before it will work in the Panel. Fixed that, launched netapplet, and I'm set.
Nice tool! |
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sog Guru


Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 356
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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in Gnome, right click your panel, select "Add to Panel", and then select Notification Area.
that'll drop in a notification area on your panel for you, in which NetApplet should show up.
HTH. _________________ ------------------------------------------------
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rt_clik n00b


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 70 Location: Rohnert Park, California, US
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Using xfce4, not Gnome, but thanks. Issue resolved as indicated in my last post.
Thanks. |
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rt_clik n00b


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 70 Location: Rohnert Park, California, US
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:10 am Post subject: A new oddity |
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I'm using madwifi-driver-0.1_pre20050420 and netapplet-1.0.0-r6. Everything works, but I began to notice heavy packet loss (up around 20% over thousands of pings) after loading netapplet. It's like the driver stops passing traffic for several seconds, then resumes. Very annoying when working with remote systems over a VPN. If I kill netapplet, the symptom goes away.
Anyone have any thoughts? Is it likely this is resolved in version r7 of netapplet, or is it more likely that this is a driver issue? There is a daily CVS for the madwifi-drivers, so I can check that later.
Thanks. |
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rt_clik n00b


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 70 Location: Rohnert Park, California, US
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: Data |
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Spent a bit more time on this tonight. Grabbed the very latest CVS snapshot tarball of the madwifi-drivers, compiled, and got them running against my 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 kernel. Then ran some ping tests and found the following:
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netdaemon and netapplet both loaded
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33% loss 50 packets
32% loss 50 packets
36% loss 50 packets
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netdaemon and netapplet both unloaded
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0% loss 50 packets
0% loss 50 packets
0% loss 50 packets
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netdaemon reloaded
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0% loss 50 packets
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netapplet reloaded
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26% loss 50 packets
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It looks like the wifi scanning for networks is costing me around 30%. With only 50 packets, and consistent results, it looks like the network polling going on in the background while netapplet is running is a bit excessive. I understand why it is necessary, but is there a way to tune the interval?
I love the tool, but not enough to deal with this kind of network interruption. |
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fergus Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 99
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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rt
I can see about adding a command line option to override the poll rate or try and fix the problem if it is fixable. Just to get this straight, it looks like you only get the packet loss when you have the applet loaded, not just the daemon. Check back here in a few days to see if I have posted anything new...
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ttuttle Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 131
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Here is how it has worked for me.
0.98.0-r5 will build, but it doesn't recognize my ipw2200 as a wireless card, and shows "unknown".
1.0.0 and 1.0.0-r1 both give me an error message ("*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x08050b8e ***") when running netapplet. Please tell me what options I need to give to turn that hex into a line of code you can pinpoint.
Also, netdaemon silently fails if not running as root.
Oh, and it turns out if you rebuild wireless-tools you have to rebuild netapplet. ;-) |
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rt_clik n00b


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 70 Location: Rohnert Park, California, US
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Fergus,
You have the scenario correct. I see the problem with netapplet loaded. Netdaemon running without netapplet does not exhibit the symptom.
Thanks. |
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rabbit Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 122 Location: Clarkson University
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| rt_clik wrote: | Fergus,
You have the scenario correct. I see the problem with netapplet loaded. Netdaemon running without netapplet does not exhibit the symptom.
Thanks. |
I would almost argue that this is just bad driver foo, as it shouldn't be a showstopper to scan/etc, but I definitely agree with fergus that it shouldn't be hard to add a command line option to set the poll rate.
Out of curiosity, are you using a recent version of wireless-tools? netapplet uses it for all the heavy lifting, so there may be an underlying issue there. |
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rabbit Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 122 Location: Clarkson University
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| ThinkingInBinary wrote: | Here is how it has worked for me.
0.98.0-r5 will build, but it doesn't recognize my ipw2200 as a wireless card, and shows "unknown".
1.0.0 and 1.0.0-r1 both give me an error message ("*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x08050b8e ***") when running netapplet. Please tell me what options I need to give to turn that hex into a line of code you can pinpoint.
Also, netdaemon silently fails if not running as root.
Oh, and it turns out if you rebuild wireless-tools you have to rebuild netapplet.  |
netdaemon needs root access to change your wireless card's access points and start/stop network interfaces. Not really any way to get around that unless you use sudo.
Have you tried -r6 to see if you have the same issue? |
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rt_clik n00b


Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 70 Location: Rohnert Park, California, US
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: |
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rabbit,
I'm using wireless-tools-27. I guess I could go to 28_pre6 if I need to, but did not thnk it was necessary to get this running right. I agree that it is likely bad driver foo, as the driver doesn't handle scanning quite right upon boot (to automatically select networks based on preferences) either. For example:
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* Configuring wireless network for ath0
* ath0 does not support scanning
* no access points found
* Trying to force preferred in case they are hidden
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The force, of course, works if a network I have defined in my conf file is available.
With this particular driver, this happens because the interface must be up before you can scan the network, but the way the scripts work require the network to be selected before the interface can come up. Catch-22 that I've been living with because I'm just too stinkin' lazy to rewrite the scripts to accommodate the limitations of the driver.
Anyway, if you think I should go up to wireless-tools-28_pre6, let me know. For now, I'm just not using netapplet unless I need to "look around", but it is just as easy at that point to contort to run `iwlist ath0 scan`. As an aside, I usually have to do a down-up on the interface to be able to scan using iwlist. May be related somehow to my odd network delays with netapplet. |
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kaksi Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 125
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Netapplet 1.0.8 is out... |
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rabbit Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 122 Location: Clarkson University
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| kaksi wrote: | | Netapplet 1.0.8 is out... |
Wow. I didn't know. I'll take a look later on this month once I get my PC rebuilt and moved to Boston to start work. (busy time for me... maybe fergus could take a look? ) |
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xwild n00b

Joined: 15 Jun 2002 Posts: 7 Location: NY
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| kaksi wrote: | | Netapplet 1.0.8 is out... |
Great work so far. I may just be momentarily braindead, but could you supply a URL to download the ebuild? Or is it in portage and I just can't seem to find it? |
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kaksi Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 125
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worldhealthpwoer n00b

Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:42 am Post subject: Great info! |
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Very good info...keep em coming! _________________ Acai Oxygen |
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fergus Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 99
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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I won't be working on any ebuild for version 1.0.8. We have modified the current code so much that it is no longer a trivial task to update to the latest code from novell. The current ebuild/code that I have available works for most situtations. You can find it if you look back a few pages on this Topic.
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sog Guru


Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 356
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:54 am Post subject: |
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with a Centrino ipw2200 chipset and netapplet r7, i'm getting strange behavior. when i first log in to GNOME, netapplet accurately displays the available networks with signal strength and everything. after selecting one, however, it immediately breaks, displaying "No Network Connections Available" and "No Wireless Networks Available" instead of the formerly available wireless signals.
and it's not that it won't work with the ipw2200 hardware - because it does initially. it just doesn't keep working.
here's the dmesg, in case it matters:
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ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.4
ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2004 Intel Corporation
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:02:02.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'WEP'
ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'CCMP'
ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'TKIP'
ieee80211: eth1: Unknown management packet: 0 |
and here's the iwconfig:
| Quote: | eth0 no wireless extensions.
lo no wireless extensions.
eth1 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"sog" Nickname:"sog"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.457 GHz Access Point: 00:09:5B:2A:8B:C6
Bit Rate=11 Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm
RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality=91/100 Signal level=-38 dBm Noise level=-71 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:4 Missed beacon:2 |
any ideas? doing a manual /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start connects to the networks just fine, so it's not that. _________________ ------------------------------------------------
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fergus Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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hmm.. that is strange. Can you try the 'Refresh Networks' option? I doubt it will fix it but worth a shot. Um, what is the output if you
cat /proc/net/dev
Just off the top of my head it seems that the client is losing connection to the server. Can you verify that the server is still running after this behavior starts?
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sog Guru


Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 356
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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no joy on "Refresh Networks." and i'm sure it's not a server issue, simply b/c when netapplet fails, a simple "/etc/init.d/net.eth1 start" connects to the network fine.
my output is here:
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face |bytes packets errs drop fifo frame compressed multicast|bytes packets errs drop fifo colls carrier compressed
eth0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
lo: 11711 186 0 0 0 0 0 0 11711 186 0 0 0 0 0 0
eth1:33830662 33151 0 24 0 0 0 0 5424165 26978 0 0 0 0 2 0
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any help is appreciated, and thanks for the reply fergus _________________ ------------------------------------------------
(blog) http://www.redmonk.com/sogrady/ |
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rabbit Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 122 Location: Clarkson University
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| fergus wrote: | I won't be working on any ebuild for version 1.0.8. We have modified the current code so much that it is no longer a trivial task to update to the latest code from novell. The current ebuild/code that I have available works for most situtations. You can find it if you look back a few pages on this Topic.
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I may take a look at it soon and see what kind of work needs to be done or if it's even possible. Like fergus said, he's made some pretty involved patches, but I'll check it out just for fun. I need something to work on. |
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ParaDoXke n00b

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I really can't get it running. It is installed, but when I run it, I get this errors:
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1120005845: outgoing: get_keys
1120005845: outgoing: get_preferred_aps
1120005846: incoming: interfaces wlan0 wireless eth0 ethernet
1120005846: incoming: active wlan0
1120005846: outgoing: get_accesspoints wlan0
1120005846: outgoing: get_wireless wlan0
(netapplet:13776): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
1120005846: incoming: interfaces wlan0 wireless eth0 ethernet
1120005846: incoming: active wlan0
1120005846: outgoing: get_accesspoints wlan0
1120005846: outgoing: get_wireless wlan0
1120005846: incoming: preferred_aps ParaDoXke
1120005846: incoming: wireless ParaDoXke 1 1.000000
(netapplet:13776): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `src != NULL' failed
(netapplet:13776): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
(netapplet:13776): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
1120005846: incoming: wireless ParaDoXke 1 1.000000
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The program keeps running, but it won't show up on the notification area.
I already tried to re-emerge gtk, glibc and gdk-pixbuf but none of it helped.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance _________________ <Penguin Powered> |
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dshanker n00b


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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Do you see netapplet running when you run '$ ps -aux'? It seems there's an issue with the icon theme and netapplet that causes netapplet not to display an Icon when it's run. In my case, the only time I see an Icon is when the netdaemon is stopped. Other than that, I have to guess where the icon would be and click. Haven't found an icon theme which works either
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ParaDoXke n00b

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, same here, i only get the icon when i stop netdeamon. Is there maybe any possibility to choose the icon yourself? _________________ <Penguin Powered> |
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