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jhuebel Retired Dev

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 22 Location: Orange, TX, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: ATI Accelleration Support |
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This post is just to inform users about the current state of ATI drivers for 64bit Linux. There aren't any yet.
Initially, the amd64 team was hearing that the drivers would be released "sometime during the summer". Now we are hearing that they may be released "by the end of the year". So I wouldn't hold my breath.
What does this mean for ATI users?
Well, things have improved somewhat since Gentoo has moved to xorg-x11. The radeon driver included with xorg is fast for 2D video. That's a Good Thing(tm).
However, 3D accelleration isn't available. So if you have any interest in 3D gaming, you should consider a video card or laptop with an NVidia chipset. NVidia drivers are very stable now and offer a 32bit compatibility layer.
This thread will be updated as we hear news from ATI or through the grapevine. _________________ Jason Huebel
Gentoo/AMD64 Strategic Lead
Gentoo Developer Relations/Recruiter
Installing Gentoo/AMD64? Read the technotes at http://amd64.gentoo.org/technotes.xml! |
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jhuebel Retired Dev

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 22 Location: Orange, TX, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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ATi has released accellerated drivers for x86-64. Users are reporting varying success with these new drivers. Please let us know if you've been successful in installing and using them.
An ebuild is forthcoming, so be watching for it in portage. _________________ Jason Huebel
Gentoo/AMD64 Strategic Lead
Gentoo Developer Relations/Recruiter
Installing Gentoo/AMD64? Read the technotes at http://amd64.gentoo.org/technotes.xml! |
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Mythos l33t


Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 933 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | kwisatz@dune ~ $ glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
kwisatz@dune ~ $ glxgears
6299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1259.800 FPS
6880 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1376.000 FPS
19823 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3964.600 FPS
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after two days i get it working, most credits go to people in "AMD64 in December", one of my biggest problem was in gcc-3.3
after compiling with gcc-3.4 opengl started working.
I have tested tuxracer and it is ok  _________________ Abraços,
Sérgio Henrique
Linux saturno 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #1 Sat Apr 28 00:38:35 UTC 2007 x86_64 Mobile AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
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Trevoke Veteran


Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 3969 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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success after much pain.
Starting here is fantastic.
Got me right where I wanted to.
Although one detail..
after you get to ../opengl/ati ..
# mv libGL.so.1.2 _libGL.so.1.2
# wget ....
# ldconfig
The truth should set you free. _________________ Le nid a trolls : Off Topic for f.g.o.fr
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Je ne suis bon a rien le vendredi.
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Tony420 Apprentice

Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 193 Location: Corona, CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Trevoke wrote: |
Although one detail..
after you get to ../opengl/ati ..
# mv libGL.so.1.2 _libGL.so.1.2
# wget ....
# ldconfig
The truth should set you free. |
I fixed it  |
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jyxent n00b

Joined: 15 Dec 2002 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have gotten it working also. It seems to be about the same as the last version of the 32-bit drivers for speed on my machine. I have a mobile Radeon 9600. UT2004 is still a little choppy for me, though.
Jordan |
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kleinsimon n00b


Joined: 24 Mar 2003 Posts: 55 Location: Deutschland Essen
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: |
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It works for me too, but ive got only ~620 fps with Radeon 9800 and AMD64 3200+... don't know what I'm supposed to expect!
And i cant change my resolution due to an error with xrandr...
But nevertheless, better than without 3d... |
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Mythos l33t


Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 933 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Well so far so good, i have got 3d and the only problem is about ET and my wi-fi card, some how et makes wi-fi card became out of memory  _________________ Abraços,
Sérgio Henrique
Linux saturno 2.6.20-gentoo-r7 #1 Sat Apr 28 00:38:35 UTC 2007 x86_64 Mobile AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
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nkolia n00b

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 21
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject: All good here - Mostly |
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I've gotten the drivers to work without a problem. I had to remerge (re-emerge?) the drivers when I upgraded form 2.6.7 to 2.6.10, but I'm assuming that's because of kernel patches, and is very normal.
I've only played UT2004 Demo so far, but everything looked good and ran fine.
One difference I noticed is that by 32bit chroot apps that use X (mplayer and firefox) aren't able to connect to the X server. I haven't played around with this yet though.
A general request: While running fglrxconfig, I got hit with a lot of questions I didn't understand and just used the default. If someone could write up a guide to the options that would help us optimize the drivers, that would be greatly appreciated. _________________ Nadeem Kolia
Naruto Chaos
nkolia@gmail.com |
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Tony420 Apprentice

Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 193 Location: Corona, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| the new r1 build on portage fixes americas army...works without any editing startup scripts |
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Tony420 Apprentice

Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 193 Location: Corona, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| theres now an r3 ebuild...any chance we can get a changelog or anything? |
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Kiff n00b


Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 73
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Tony420 Apprentice

Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 193 Location: Corona, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| they need to add to the changelog "borked everyones once working games" |
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needlern1 Guru


Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Posts: 351 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ignorance asking here If I don't game and/or do other 3D type stuff, is there any other compelling reason for me to use the new driver? Does it just generally look better than the x.org driver? TIA, Bill |
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IamtheOne Apprentice


Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 156 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Probalby no, I'd say stick with the xorg driver if it works and you don't need 3d...
Although, I have had no problems with 2d and the driver so it might be fine to give it a try. _________________ AMD Athlon64 x2 5000+ Brisbane | 4GB OCZ Platinum PC2-6400
ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe | Sapphire Radeon 2900 Pro
Creative Audigy | NEC ND3500 DVD Burner
Antec P182 Case | OCZ GameXStream 700W PS
Gentoo x86_64/Windows Vista x64/Others |
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needlern1 Guru


Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Posts: 351 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks IamtheOne. I've recently tackled getting vmware up and runnig. I think I'll wait awhile for this project Bill _________________ emachines m6805 (amd64) laptop with vmware(w2k) for dive computer use
IM @ yahoo and icq = needlern32724
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kleinsimon n00b


Joined: 24 Mar 2003 Posts: 55 Location: Deutschland Essen
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Something I've noticed, is that switching to console works for me with the new fglrx. I've had several problems with this using the xorg-driver and vesa console. |
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Trevoke Veteran


Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 3969 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
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kleinsimon : really? the ati-drivers b0rked the tty-to-X switch for me. _________________ Le nid a trolls : Off Topic for f.g.o.fr
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kleinsimon n00b


Joined: 24 Mar 2003 Posts: 55 Location: Deutschland Essen
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| yes! no lock-ups since I turned to fglrx. Switching and killing X is no Problem any more |
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Kow Apprentice

Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 227
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Good job, emerged latest ati-drivers (revision 3 ebuild), ran fglrxconfig, had to switch Keyboard driver in the X config file it created though from "Keyboard" to "kbd". Then I ran modules-update, opengl-update ati, booted X, and ran glxgears:
12181 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2436.200 FPS
14466 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2893.200 FPS
14468 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2893.600 FPS
14491 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2898.200 FPS
glxinfo:
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9500 Pro Generic
OpenGL version string: 1.3.4769 (X4.3.0-8.8.25)
Looking good  _________________ -Kow |
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Apewall Apprentice


Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 248 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Whenever I do a
after it, when i try to startx is locksup on booting x, gives me nothing but a black screen.
I've tried changing the xorg.conf After using fglrxconfig to match the original xorg.conf main's settings since they work, didn't fix anything. _________________ Posting for dummies |
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Aggamemnon Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 99 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| Has anyone got the transparancies etc from xorg going with this driver? |
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Kow Apprentice

Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 227
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Now all we need is emul-linux-x86-ati and all would be well for Cedega. :-/ _________________ -Kow |
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Apewall Apprentice


Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 248 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Aggamemnon wrote: | | Has anyone got the transparancies etc from xorg going with this driver? |
yes? _________________ Posting for dummies |
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Jimeh n00b


Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 29 Location: England, UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Kow wrote: | | Now all we need is emul-linux-x86-ati and all would be well for Cedega. :-/ |
Huh? I am running Cedega with no more problems than you would expect from it... |
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