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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:00 am    Post subject: A section for config files Reply with quote

Well it sort of falls under the category of "Documentation, Tips, and Tricks" so a new section might be overkill... but perhaps not. There are literally thousands of different config files and I think many of them deserve their own thread.

Just a few I'd pick, from my own limited experience:

.bashrc
.bash_logout
.vimrc
.xinitrc
.fvwm
.icewm
.fluxbox/*
/etc/sudoers
/etc/profile
/etc/privoxy/user.action
...

There is a lot of cool customization that can be done with such files and it's a shame that there doesn't seem to be a way of sharing them with others. Google is a good resource, to be sure, but I'm kinda wishing for a centralized repository of every-so-slightly more-gentoo-specific examples.

Instead of a new section we could just have a loose thread for each config file in Doc/Tips/Tricks, but that might get cluttered... I don't know; maybe I'm overestimating the interest in this sort of thing.

Now before you start looking at me strangely and yell RTFM, realize that I am not looking for yet another list of possible options. The basic idea is to expose ourselves to how others have combined said options into a useful whole.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems to be the sort of thing crying more for a wiki than a forum section, but I agree that there is a lot of stuff out there and it takes hours and hours[ (T=A*3) T=time A=available time] to configure your boxen.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A "parent" thread in DT&T that had links to each "config file thread" might work. I don't think it warrants a forum unto itself.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh yes that would work nicely, similar to how the faq forum is organized.

You could make a sticky thread called "Post your config files" that links to each child thread and also lays a few ground rules to keep thing standardized. For example, emphasize no support or "how do I do this?" questions, just straightforward config posting in [code] tags with a short explanation of what the tricky parts do.

This thread should be writable so people can request new child threads be added, which for consistency should be named after the config file itself, no more, no less. Threads about files that go in home directories should have their basename as the title, like ".bashrc" (or something like .fluxbox/* if it's in a subdirectory of home). Files that go in other directories should have a fully qualified path names, such as "/etc/profile".

Is a DT&T moderator insterested in doing this themselves or should we try and start something unofficial first?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be good to get at least on thread on the config files going first.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

by "a thread" do you mean for a particular, arbitrary config file?

or a bunch of unrelated ones lumped into a single thread?

assuming the former, something simple like /etc/profile might do; I'll try to come up with good initial submission.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was an intresting idea, so stop neglecting it pjp. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gherald: One config file per thread would probably be best, otherwise it'd get fairly confusing.

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This was an intresting idea, so stop neglecting it pjp. :)
What config file have you contributed? I'm not creating them.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think perhaps I wasn't clear causing you to misunderstand me...

I was talking about the idea of a forum section for user made configuration files, not necessary this thread itself. I know you might want people to post some files first before you decide if it was worth the effort but I was thinking maybe you should start it anyway. People might be more motivated when they a brand new forum section made just for configuration files.

The average forum user (maybe even the veterans) probably doesn't even know this thread exists so a new forum section would probably make them say, "Oh be still my beating heart!! :o"

Well you get the picture... This is just my two cents. :)

**I also am still getting used to gentoo and such, so my configuration files aren't worth showing.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

qzec wrote:
I was talking about the idea of a forum section for user made configuration files
There isn't going to be a forum.

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I know you might want people to post some files first before you decide if it was worth the effort but I was thinking maybe you should start it anyway.
The people interested in the effort should be the ones to start.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
qzec wrote:
I was talking about the idea of a forum section for user made configuration files
There isn't going to be a forum.

a pretty disappointing attitude from a forums administrator. if it weren't for us and our needs the these forums wouldn't be here by that I mean from an outsiders observation aren't the existing forums meant to satisfy our interests?

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I know you might want people to post some files first before you decide if it was worth the effort but I was thinking maybe you should start it anyway.
The people interested in the effort should be the ones to start.

"Build it and they will come"
There's truth to that; it ain't just a line from Shoeless Joe. I can think of a half dozen things that i would like a custom config for that (excuse me for being to lazy to "RTFM") are hard to search for.
Reconsider or if anyone knows a place to find 'em post up.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chevelle wrote:
a pretty disappointing attitude from a forums administrator. if it weren't for us and our needs the these forums wouldn't be here by that I mean from an outsiders observation aren't the existing forums meant to satisfy our interests?

Or maybe pjp realizes that a thread like that would be huge, and searching through it would be more frustrating than anything.

Seems more and more threads are appearing were people are coming in and demanding what others should do.
It's free and people contributions are done on their own time. pjp and all contributers, whether code, support, or whatever, I appreciate your work.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chevelle wrote:
pjp wrote:
There isn't going to be a forum.

a pretty disappointing attitude from a forums administrator. if it weren't for us and our needs the these forums wouldn't be here by that I mean from an outsiders observation aren't the existing forums meant to satisfy our interests?


We are not here to satisfy your needs, but that of the average gentooer, and within our limitations. You may find the gentoo wiki a good place to put them. And I think it would hurt our search engine too.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chevelle wrote:
pjp wrote:
qzec wrote:
I was talking about the idea of a forum section for user made configuration files
There isn't going to be a forum.

a pretty disappointing attitude from a forums administrator.
As is indicated in previous posts (seemingly unread), the forum isn't going to exist until a need is demonstrated. I was using a blunt instrument to make a point that was, in my opinion, being ignored.

We could create hundreds of forums that might see 1 relevant post every 2 weeks, but it wouldn't be an appropriate use of a forum.

chevelle wrote:
"Build it and they will come"
I agree. Start building the config files, and when there is enough volume, we'll consider dedicating a forum to it. As it is right now, I've not perceived ANY config file traffic (I'm not saying there is none, just that it is very low volume if there is). Also, there are probably other, more deserving forums than a config file forum (search Feedback for a list of candidates).

Also keep in mind, when subforums are released for phpbb, we'll consider being more flexible. Having 100 forums listed on the front page would likely increase users not paying attention to where they should be posting.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a xorg.conf database with submissions to browse?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go right ahead:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Index:XOrg
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