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loki99
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 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:22 am Post subject: which ati-driver version? (ut2k4 unplayable with ati-9600?) |
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hi all!
i just got my ati drivers goin and was quite happy until i`ve read in the forums that the best driver would be version-3.2.8 but i installed version-3.9.0 (sigh!). i have an athlon 1800+, 256mb-ram and an ati-9600/128mb running kernel-2.6.7. and i get like 1800FPS.
so here are my questions:
* are these 1800 FPS ok for my kind of system? (i think i´ve read somewhere of an athlon1000 whith nearly that many FPS)
* how many FPS do i need to run ut2004 decently?
* is the 3.2.8 version really the better one?
* how much trouble would it be to change back? (acctually i´m quite happy that i did get them to run in the first place)
* are the advantages worth going thru this trouble?
i hope someone can share his/her wisdom with me! 
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sthauck
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject: ati drivers |
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if your happy with them then why bother changing . I play ut2k4 just fine with an ati 9000 pro
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loki99
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: ati drivers |
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| sthauck wrote: | | if your happy with them then why bother changing . I play ut2k4 just fine with an ati 9000 pro |
since i´m done emerging ut i just tried it out and it´s like i have to turn every setting to the absolute lowest to be able to play it [darn! i knew it!  ]
which driver version are you using and how many FPS do you get running glxgears?
greetings!
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Flammie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: which ati-driver version? |
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| loki99 wrote: | | * are these 1800 FPS ok for my kind of system? (i think i´ve read somewhere of an athlon1000 whith nearly that many FPS) |
You don't need any FPS, you need 12345 3dmarks! 
Seriously, glxgears is not much of a benchmarking software, only good way to test if ut2004 works properly is to try it. I'd guesstimate that with your hardware it will work reasonably well.
| Quote: | | * is the 3.2.8 version really the better one? |
I haven't really noticed, might be occasionally and in some cases not. But as I haven't really dived in to the ati-driver mess with my secondary comp. that has ati card I wouldn't know, it works for me with 3.9.0 if you don't count problematic tv-out-support and I'm not very eager to change something that is working, especially when it often takes too much trouble. |
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ap viper
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I've tried all the driver versions(I have a 9800 pro) and the Ut2k4 demo was only playable with the 3.28 drivers, even then I had to play with really bad settings. In contrast, I can play the game with everything on high, at 1280x1024 with a decent framerate on Windows. I think it has something to do with the new drivers not recognizing my processor. I'd just mess around until you find the best performing drivers.
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loki99
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ap viper wrote: | | I'd just mess around until you find the best performing drivers. |
are there any "traps" along the way or do i simply >emerge ati-drivers-3.2.8<
BTW when i do >emerge -pv ati-drivers-3.2.8< i get something like:
!!! Problem in media-video/ati-drivers-3.2.8 dependencies
!!! "Specific key requires an operator (media-video/ati-drivers-3.2.8 ) (Try an ´=´)"
can anyone give me a hint what this means? 
| Quote: | | In contrast, I can play the game with everything on high, at 1280x1024 with a decent framerate on Windows. I think it has something to do with the new drivers not recognizing my processor. |
same here! in windose i have everything turned up to the max and it works perfectly! but doesn´t that have to do with ut running on opengl in linux while windose uses directx?
(don really know! just guessing.)
really would love to play that game on gentoo. i don´t even need it to look as good as on M$. but it oughta look quite decent. (not like 640x480 with every setting in the cellar) |
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Flammie
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| loki99 wrote: |
!!! Problem in media-video/ati-drivers-3.2.8 dependencies
!!! "Specific key requires an operator (media-video/ati-drivers-3.2.8 ) (Try an ´=´)"
can anyone give me a hint what this means? |
Heh, it's written in very programmer-centered language, like most other stuff in portage anyways. What it says is that you need to prepend =-symbol to the package when you emerge a specific version:
| Code: | | emerge -pv =media-video/ati-drivers-3.2.8 |
| Quote: | same here! in windose i have everything turned up to the max and it works perfectly! but doesn´t that have to do with ut running on opengl in linux while windose uses directx?
(don really know! just guessing.) |
If I remember correctly, ut's have possibility to use both directx and opengl on windows side, but this doesn't seem to be the actual problem, as I've seen that even nvidia geforce 2 mx on my server machine performs quite well on linux box. |
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loki99
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Flammie wrote: |
Heh, it's written in very programmer-centered language, like most other stuff in portage anyways. What it says is that you need to prepend =-symbol to the package when you emerge a specific version:
| Code: | | emerge -pv =media-video/ati-drivers-3.2.8 |
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thanx for the tip! 
loki99
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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ok! i tried version 3.2.8 and lost my 3d-ability switched back to 3.9.0 and now it works with 1024x768 at lowest settings but thats ok!
i don have to dual-boot for playing a little game.
thanx to everyone who put up with my little prob!
loki99!
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