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Ben2040
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| Quote: | Then for metisse:
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tar xvjf metisse-0.3.0.tar.bz2
cd metisse-0.3.0
./configure --prefix=/usr/local [b]--with-fontpath=/usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi[/b]
make
su
make install
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then i tried various combinations of commands that have not yet worked, but at least Xwnc existed... please, someone who's gotten this working help us out! |
The configure switch is unnessacary - I'm using XOrg X11 and it worked fine with just "./configure".
| Janne Pikkarainen wrote: | | Ok, at least for me Metisse seems to be a bit sluggish here and there |
What hardware have you got - I've seen _ZERO_ slowdown (really) on an Athlon64 3000+ (32 bit mode) and an ATi 9600 Pro (with drivers V 3.2.8-r1).
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has it been noted that the approach of using a vnc-like continuous flow of "screendrumps" straight from the backbuffer is also a dog-slow approach?
as smooth as it might seem the solution is inefficient
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Janne Pikkarainen
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| Ben2040 wrote: |
What hardware have you got - I've seen _ZERO_ slowdown (really) on an Athlon64 3000+ (32 bit mode) and an ATi 9600 Pro (with drivers V 3.2.8-r1).
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Athlon XP 2400+ and GeForce 3 Ti-500. Overall speed is very good, but for example scrolling web page in Galeon is a bit on the slow side.
By the way, how can I take screenshots from Metisse? GIMP/import doesn't seem to work...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| Janne Pikkarainen wrote: | | By the way, how can I take screenshots from Metisse? GIMP/import doesn't seem to work... |
try | Code: | | $ import -display :0 -window root blah.png |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| taviso wrote: | try | Code: | | $ import -display :0 -window root blah.png |
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Thanks! That did the trick! 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:55 am Post subject: |
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ok i got it to work but it seems that it's using higher virtual resolution then what i tell it to (1280x1024) =\
and the themes are really ugly |
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| I'm still very confused - I followed all of dkenn's instructions, but it's still not doing anything. The only things I changed were adding an "-ac" switch to the Xwnc command and making the geometry appropriate. metisse apparently starts up, as it's listed in the output of "ps a", but all I get on my screen is a windowless xterm (I added an xterm line to the .xinitrc so I could see what the heck was going on. fvwm claims to be running on 127.0.0.1:0 and the xterm claims to be running on :0.0, which seems like the same thing. Does anyone know what's going on? |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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doesn't compile here for some reason...
| Code: | then mv -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo" ".deps/ametista.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
ametista.cxx: In function `int main(int, char**)':
ametista.cxx:88: error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id
ametista.cxx:88: note: try removing the parentheses around the type-id
make[3]: *** [ametista.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista/main'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2
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BTW, what about sun's looking glass project?
is it out yet? can we use it? |
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| oh sweet, I didn't know there was a developers release of project looking glass |
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So I finally got this thing built and, I think pearpc is slightly more performant, with the big difference that pearpc hog about 20-30% of CPU while metisse hog 98%.
What box you guys have? I guess I'm really lagging now with a p3-500mhz. :'(
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jkalderash
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Hey all, updates on my as-yet-unsuccessful attempts. Looking at the output of "Xwnc -help" implies that my geometry and depth should be based on framebuffer configs, rather than xorg.conf - is this the case? I mean, obviously I've tried both and neither works anyhow. Or is Xwnc supposed to open a window in an already-started X Session?
I'm wondering if my problems have anything to do with xauth configuration - have people mostly just followed the guide on the metisse site, or what?
I've actually successfully managed to boot into fvwmi WITHOUT Xwnc running, so I know it works, it's just that it refuses to appear if I manage to start Xwnc, xorg-x11, and metisse all at the same time. Again, all of the fvwm processes are apparently running on the display :0, but nothing acts like it! Help?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| jkalderash wrote: | | Or is Xwnc supposed to open a window in an already-started X Session? |
That's what I did. If you follow the rather simplistic instructions to the letter, it clearly state to start two commands in two different xterm session on a opengl-capable setup. That's what I did and, sure enough, I had this fnmhjdskjfwhatever session running to toy with.
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So, you're saying that when you type in the Xwnc command, an actual window pops up containing the second desktop, within your current window manager?
...then what the heck is going on with mine?... (scurries off to furiously try different combinations of options) |
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Actualy, I think the windows poped up with the second command. Xwnc is (I think) the server. You need to start the client (which is a much longer command) that starts the wm and you should see the windows pop up.
Go read the instructions.
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| NME wrote: | has it been noted that the approach of using a vnc-like continuous flow of "screendrumps" straight from the backbuffer is also a dog-slow approach?
as smooth as it might seem the solution is inefficient |
As I understood it, programs write their screen into the texture buffer, and the window polygons get painted with those textures. It's similar to how Quake does it, and probably the most effective way to do it.
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Ben2040
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| tecknojunky wrote: | | You need to start the client (which is a much longer command) that starts the wm |
No, the server command is longer - to start te client all you type is "metisse-start-fvwm"
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| Looks like it's a problem with my graphics card or something - I tried running it through an SSH session into another computer and everything worked fine (very slowly, of course, but fine). Thanks for everybody's help, perhaps I'll try to fix it this weekend... |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyklon wrote: | doesn't compile here for some reason...
| Code: | then mv -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo" ".deps/ametista.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
ametista.cxx: In function `int main(int, char**)':
ametista.cxx:88: error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id
ametista.cxx:88: note: try removing the parentheses around the type-id
make[3]: *** [ametista.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista/main'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2
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vim FvwmAmetista/main/ametista.cxx
Change line 88
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char **user_argv = new (char *) [user_argc] ;
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char **user_argv = new char * [user_argc] ;
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| Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| ares wrote: |
vim FvwmAmetista/main/ametista.cxx
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char **user_argv = new (char *) [user_argc] ;
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It always baffles me, but how the hell do you work that out????
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| Ben2040 wrote: | | ares wrote: |
vim FvwmAmetista/main/ametista.cxx
Change line 88
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char **user_argv = new (char *) [user_argc] ;
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char **user_argv = new char * [user_argc] ;
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It always baffles me, but how the hell do you work that out????
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"ametista.cxx:88: note: try removing the parentheses around the type-id "
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| Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
LOL - Sorry, didn't fully read the error message - they don't usually tell you (me) anything...
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| Ben2040 wrote: | Hi
LOL - Sorry, didn't fully read the error message - they don't usually tell you (me) anything...
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they do usually tell someone who knows a little C/C++ a whole lot |
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