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Ben2040 Guru
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 445 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Then for metisse:
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Code:
tar xvjf metisse-0.3.0.tar.bz2
cd metisse-0.3.0
./configure --prefix=/usr/local [b]--with-fontpath=/usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi[/b]
make
su
make install
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then i tried various combinations of commands that have not yet worked, but at least Xwnc existed... please, someone who's gotten this working help us out! |
The configure switch is unnessacary - I'm using XOrg X11 and it worked fine with just "./configure".
Janne Pikkarainen wrote: | Ok, at least for me Metisse seems to be a bit sluggish here and there |
What hardware have you got - I've seen _ZERO_ slowdown (really) on an Athlon64 3000+ (32 bit mode) and an ATi 9600 Pro (with drivers V 3.2.8-r1).
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NME Apprentice
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 168 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:23 am Post subject: |
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has it been noted that the approach of using a vnc-like continuous flow of "screendrumps" straight from the backbuffer is also a dog-slow approach?
as smooth as it might seem the solution is inefficient _________________ f# that. |
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Janne Pikkarainen Veteran
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1143 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Ben2040 wrote: |
What hardware have you got - I've seen _ZERO_ slowdown (really) on an Athlon64 3000+ (32 bit mode) and an ATi 9600 Pro (with drivers V 3.2.8-r1).
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Athlon XP 2400+ and GeForce 3 Ti-500. Overall speed is very good, but for example scrolling web page in Galeon is a bit on the slow side.
By the way, how can I take screenshots from Metisse? GIMP/import doesn't seem to work... _________________ Yes, I'm the man. Now it's your turn to decide if I meant "Yes, I'm the male." or "Yes, I am the Unix Manual Page.". |
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taviso Retired Dev
Joined: 15 Apr 2003 Posts: 261 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Janne Pikkarainen wrote: | By the way, how can I take screenshots from Metisse? GIMP/import doesn't seem to work... |
try Code: | $ import -display :0 -window root blah.png |
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Janne Pikkarainen Veteran
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1143 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: |
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taviso wrote: | try Code: | $ import -display :0 -window root blah.png |
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Thanks! That did the trick! _________________ Yes, I'm the man. Now it's your turn to decide if I meant "Yes, I'm the male." or "Yes, I am the Unix Manual Page.". |
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newbie_100 Guru
Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Ashdod, IsraHell
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:55 am Post subject: |
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ok i got it to work but it seems that it's using higher virtual resolution then what i tell it to (1280x1024) =\
and the themes are really ugly |
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jkalderash Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 111
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still very confused - I followed all of dkenn's instructions, but it's still not doing anything. The only things I changed were adding an "-ac" switch to the Xwnc command and making the geometry appropriate. metisse apparently starts up, as it's listed in the output of "ps a", but all I get on my screen is a windowless xterm (I added an xterm line to the .xinitrc so I could see what the heck was going on. fvwm claims to be running on 127.0.0.1:0 and the xterm claims to be running on :0.0, which seems like the same thing. Does anyone know what's going on? |
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s3ntient Guru
Joined: 13 Apr 2003 Posts: 304 Location: Lyon, France
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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doesn't compile here for some reason...
Code: | then mv -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo" ".deps/ametista.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
ametista.cxx: In function `int main(int, char**)':
ametista.cxx:88: error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id
ametista.cxx:88: note: try removing the parentheses around the type-id
make[3]: *** [ametista.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista/main'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2
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tecknojunky Veteran
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newbie_100 Guru
Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Ashdod, IsraHell
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, what about sun's looking glass project?
is it out yet? can we use it? |
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neuron Advocate
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371
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Uranus Guru
Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 438 Location: Portugal, Braga
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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oh sweet, I didn't know there was a developers release of project looking glass |
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tecknojunky Veteran
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1937 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:34 am Post subject: |
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So I finally got this thing built and, I think pearpc is slightly more performant, with the big difference that pearpc hog about 20-30% of CPU while metisse hog 98%.
What box you guys have? I guess I'm really lagging now with a p3-500mhz. :'( _________________ (7 of 9) Installing star-trek/species-8.4.7.2::talax. |
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jkalderash Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 111
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Hey all, updates on my as-yet-unsuccessful attempts. Looking at the output of "Xwnc -help" implies that my geometry and depth should be based on framebuffer configs, rather than xorg.conf - is this the case? I mean, obviously I've tried both and neither works anyhow. Or is Xwnc supposed to open a window in an already-started X Session?
I'm wondering if my problems have anything to do with xauth configuration - have people mostly just followed the guide on the metisse site, or what?
I've actually successfully managed to boot into fvwmi WITHOUT Xwnc running, so I know it works, it's just that it refuses to appear if I manage to start Xwnc, xorg-x11, and metisse all at the same time. Again, all of the fvwm processes are apparently running on the display :0, but nothing acts like it! Help?
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tecknojunky Veteran
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1937 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:56 am Post subject: |
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jkalderash wrote: | Or is Xwnc supposed to open a window in an already-started X Session? | That's what I did. If you follow the rather simplistic instructions to the letter, it clearly state to start two commands in two different xterm session on a opengl-capable setup. That's what I did and, sure enough, I had this fnmhjdskjfwhatever session running to toy with. _________________ (7 of 9) Installing star-trek/species-8.4.7.2::talax. |
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jkalderash Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:06 am Post subject: |
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So, you're saying that when you type in the Xwnc command, an actual window pops up containing the second desktop, within your current window manager?
...then what the heck is going on with mine?... (scurries off to furiously try different combinations of options) |
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tecknojunky Veteran
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 1937 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Actualy, I think the windows poped up with the second command. Xwnc is (I think) the server. You need to start the client (which is a much longer command) that starts the wm and you should see the windows pop up.
Go read the instructions. _________________ (7 of 9) Installing star-trek/species-8.4.7.2::talax. |
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Boris27 Guru
Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 562 Location: Almelo, The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: |
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NME wrote: | has it been noted that the approach of using a vnc-like continuous flow of "screendrumps" straight from the backbuffer is also a dog-slow approach?
as smooth as it might seem the solution is inefficient |
As I understood it, programs write their screen into the texture buffer, and the window polygons get painted with those textures. It's similar to how Quake does it, and probably the most effective way to do it. _________________ we are microsoft, lower your firewalls and surrender your pc's. we will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. your culture will adapt and service us. resistance is futile. |
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Ben2040 Guru
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 445 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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tecknojunky wrote: | You need to start the client (which is a much longer command) that starts the wm |
No, the server command is longer - to start te client all you type is "metisse-start-fvwm"
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jkalderash Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like it's a problem with my graphics card or something - I tried running it through an SSH session into another computer and everything worked fine (very slowly, of course, but fine). Thanks for everybody's help, perhaps I'll try to fix it this weekend... |
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ares Apprentice
Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 280 Location: Savigliano (CN)
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Zyklon wrote: | doesn't compile here for some reason...
Code: | then mv -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo" ".deps/ametista.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/ametista.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
ametista.cxx: In function `int main(int, char**)':
ametista.cxx:88: error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id
ametista.cxx:88: note: try removing the parentheses around the type-id
make[3]: *** [ametista.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista/main'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0/FvwmAmetista'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/metisse-0.3.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2
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vim FvwmAmetista/main/ametista.cxx
Change line 88
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char **user_argv = new (char *) [user_argc] ;
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char **user_argv = new char * [user_argc] ;
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Ben2040 Guru
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:06 am Post subject: |
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ares wrote: |
vim FvwmAmetista/main/ametista.cxx
Change line 88
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char **user_argv = new (char *) [user_argc] ;
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char **user_argv = new char * [user_argc] ;
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It always baffles me, but how the hell do you work that out????
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neuron Advocate
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ben2040 wrote: | ares wrote: |
vim FvwmAmetista/main/ametista.cxx
Change line 88
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char **user_argv = new (char *) [user_argc] ;
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char **user_argv = new char * [user_argc] ;
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It always baffles me, but how the hell do you work that out????
Ben |
"ametista.cxx:88: note: try removing the parentheses around the type-id "
must be magic |
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Ben2040 Guru
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
LOL - Sorry, didn't fully read the error message - they don't usually tell you (me) anything...
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neuron Advocate
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ben2040 wrote: | Hi
LOL - Sorry, didn't fully read the error message - they don't usually tell you (me) anything...
Ben |
they do usually tell someone who knows a little C/C++ a whole lot |
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