OpenOffice or Ximian?

MickKi · Veteran Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 1173

Hi All,

I have only used OpenOffice (on Knoppix), but I am now psyching myself up for a mega-long emerge of office in my Gentoo, run on a 600MHz PIII. I only want to do it once, don't we all? :wink:

but I am not sure what I should emerge:

Ari Rahikkala · Guru Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 370 Location: Finland

Try the -bin packages out first and emerge whichever you want when you'll be away for a day or so. The reasons why I prefer the ximianised version are aesthetical, rather much like the way the reasons why I prefer not to live on a landfill are aesthetical.
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placeholder · Advocate Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500

I use OOo because I use Fluxbox and don't want to have a bunch of GNOME libs in order to use OOo-ximian. Basically, anything ximian is just a version of the program designed to work better with the GNOME DE, seeing that the Ximian project was made in order to make Linux better for the desktop and GNOME was the DE they chose to use in order to make their Ximian DE.

So OOo-ximian is OOo with some GNOME bindings, and it is free.

Roguelazer · Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject:

Plus OOo-ximian has purtier icons.

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Duty · Apprentice Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 253

I've always preferred AbiWord, although I'm not sure if the rest of this "AbiSuite" thing even exists, or is remotely usable yet; I haven't had much need for the other components of an office suite.

Any killer advantages that the OOo WP has over Abi's?

ShadyCharacter · n00b Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 33

I just use Abiword now, much less bloated. Although between the two I prefer Ximian.

Wolfpack98 · n00b Joined: 11 Mar 2003 Posts: 61 Location: USA

I haven't had a chance to use OpenOffice-Ximian yet..

But because I alrady have kde/gnome libs on my system for various programs I've been using, i might as well try OO-Ximian to see how it runs..

I'm on fluxbox so *shrug*
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spb · Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:22 pm Post subject:

Well, when I had OpenOffice installed, it was the -ximian variety. These days, emacs is good enough for me (with LaTeX if I'm doing anything fancy).

codergeek42 · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:21 am Post subject:

sindre · Guru Joined: 01 Nov 2002 Posts: 315 Location: Norway

[ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-ximian-1.1.59 -gnome +kde +ooo-kde 1,525 kB

Building openoffice-ximian with the ooo-kde USE-flag resulted in an amazing startup time on kde for me, in addition to integrate better with the rest of the environment. The ebuild didn't like -march=pentium4 though, had to turn that one down a notch.

MickKi · Veteran Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 1173

Thank you All,

Ximian clearly appears to be the favourite! I am also mostly running fluxbox, although I have KDE installed and occassionally launch it from within fluxbox.

The last hint is very useful: the +ooo-kde flag dropped a load of gnome libs and dependencies. All I need to emerge now is:

scarr · Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject:

OOo usually takes about 1-1.5 Gb to build so you should be fine. I haven't actually tried the Ximian build, but it should be within that range.
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djm · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:

I've never used the ximian version, is it as sensitive to CFLAGS as the normal version?

I might give it a go...
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Adso · n00b Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 11

ximian just looks a little fancier but for a wp i would rather use abi. OO doesnt spell check correctly for me

hanta · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: OpenOffice or Ximian?

Jake · Veteran Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 1132

I'd rather use the Ximian version, but last time I tried it my formulas in Writer didn't work.

MickKi · Veteran Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 1173

DrCrippen · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject:

I used OOo a long time and it worked fine for me.
Well, I wanted to try out gnome and as I heard ximian integrated better I tried it out to
and it works fine as well. The thing about cups is what I like best.

But unfortunately both need so much time to start and I don't know how to make it faster
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hanta · Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject:

placeholder · Advocate Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500

Speaking of all this.... Is there anyway to get only the writer with OOo? I don't need anything else and rarely even use the writer so I was curious. PM me if you know, please.

arand · Apprentice Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Posts: 215

Slightly off topic but I need to vent some frustrantions.

I switched back to the vanilla Ooo because the ximianized version failed to install after 20 hours of compling. I would have used the binbary version but it was not up to date so I switched back to the vanilla version because the binary version is uptodate.

I don't really use the program that much only for opeing MS documents, most of my document writing now is done in latex.

There I feel better, thanks.

MickKi · Veteran Joined: 08 Feb 2004 Posts: 1173

WOOHOO!

OOo-Ximian installed and it is indeed: a)much better looking (OK, that may be subjective), and b)seriously faster in launching than the vanilla OOo (mind you I used the KDE USE flags as mentioned above).

After I stretched out my / partition to give it enough size to compile I didn't experience any other glitches.

djm · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:01 am Post subject:

According to etcat -u, openoffice is affected by only gnome and kde uses flags (USE="+/-gnome/kde")

and openoffice-ximian isn't affected by any use flags

It also says that neither binary version isn't affected by any use flags
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lefou · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:22 am Post subject:

Is there a i18n-version of OpenOffice-ximian available? I'm using app-i18n/openoffice-bin-de-1.1.2 from www.gentoo.de. I think, a localized version is better than a DE-optimized one.

lefou

playfool · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject:

I use the version that comes with Fedora Core Rawhide, it has most of the Ximian stuff in there and the native widget framework from the development series should be in there as well.

Anyways, I like it.